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Post by kt66horses on Sept 15, 2013 19:40:52 GMT
I dont want to get into a heated discussion about this but are you then saying that this mare with foal at foot and carrying another foal should be put to sleep instead of trying to sell if you are in a desperate situation? The people who own this mare may not have any choice but to sell her and if the only other decision is to put her to sleep what would you do in this persons situation?? I certainly know that I would find it very difficult to put her to sleep.
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Post by taxpayer on Sept 15, 2013 20:58:22 GMT
KT66, PLEASE go to the Beeston web site and look at the catalogue.........and READ, and do abit of homework.
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Post by stormyskies on Sept 15, 2013 21:07:03 GMT
I would find it easier to put an 18 yr old mare to sleep and know she was safe forever than send her to a sale where she could end up his knows where!
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Do as I say not as i do!!!
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Post by Do as I say not as i do!!! on Sept 15, 2013 21:51:27 GMT
KT66, PLEASE go to the Beeston web site and look at the catalogue.........and READ, and do abit of homework. A bit of pot and kettle here! You did not pick up on the fact that this mare reached £20 NS ie NOT SOLD! before you climbed on your high horse. As it turned out the mare has found a good forever home and obviously was entered with a reserve. I agree it is very sad that a mare of this age had to go through a sale but it was with a caveat and better that she had 1 less than ideal day than PTS without trying. I bet next summer if she could speak she'd say thanks to her previous owner for giving her the chance.
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Post by brt on Sept 15, 2013 22:06:43 GMT
18 isn't that old, i have bought broodmares older than that, why put her to sleep? Welshies have a longer life expectancy than say T.B's or warm bloods. Good on the owner for having a reserve.
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Post by saza911 on Sept 16, 2013 6:09:01 GMT
A healthily broad are can breed until she is a old lady ie 30 her body will tell her when to stop breeding! The mare may have been a fantastic foundation mare to a new stud who wanted to start breeding or could have made a additional to an established stud. I really don't see the problem with her being at a sale. They didn't let her go for buttons as I am sure they are aware that would have been a one way street so seem very responsible to me?
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Post by 09rebel99 on Sept 17, 2013 7:34:00 GMT
I dont want to get into a heated discussion about this but are you then saying that this mare with foal at foot and carrying another foal should be put to sleep instead of trying to sell if you are in a desperate situation? The people who own this mare may not have any choice but to sell her and if the only other decision is to put her to sleep what would you do in this persons situation?? I certainly know that I would find it very difficult to put her to sleep. No I wasn't saying that at all. I understand peoples situations change ect but why keep putting her in foal? I just don't really see the need for welsh ponies to be bred off year after year or any ponies really for that matter.
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Post by Guestless on Sept 17, 2013 14:36:03 GMT
Whilst I agree that a lot of people send their ponies to sales just to get rid of them quickly its not always the case and sometimes people have no choice no matter how heartbreaking it is. I have recently been dealt a blow which means I literally cannot afford to keep my ponies and live. My two lovely broodmares are up for loan but I have only had one total timewaster who let me down at the last minute interested in them because I want them to be re-homed together. I dont know how I am going to keep them over the winter and I have seriously thought about having them PTS so that I know where they are. It is a heartbreaking decision as I have had them both since babies - one is now 18 and the other 12. I understand things happen in life and sometimes we have to make horrible decisions based on live-changing circumstances. However, if you feel that insisting your two mares are rehomed together is affecting them getting a home, then why can't they go separately? Surely it is more important to find two nice homes than one home that is perhaps less than ideal and harder to find in the first place?
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Post by nj on Sept 17, 2013 21:16:08 GMT
I was rather disturbed when I read a post about the prices being so bad and a lady was complaining about the poor state of affairs that the selling world had gone into, WELL SIMPLE!!! STOP BLOOMING BREEDING THEN, why o why do people feel the need to put these poor mares into foal again and again when they sell for less that a packet of f*gS!!!! it's like compulsive shopping, they just can't stop and hoping and hoping that they will breed THE ONE in the end, with the welsh ponies this is only going to happen to a selected few mares where the breeding is outstanding and a proven mare. Grrrrrrrr it really does get me, please people stop breeding these poor welsh ponies and stop complaining that prices are poor, it has been like this for the past few years and the prices are not going up at the moment!!!! Sorry rant over
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Post by welshiegirl on Sept 18, 2013 18:08:19 GMT
agree... unless you have a guaranteed home or are keeping the foal yourself, What is the point in breeding ten to the dozen foals? on the off chance you may get one amazing one? it was very sad to see decent foals being bid on for 15, 20 pound a piece... very sad
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Post by kt66horses on Sept 19, 2013 19:10:29 GMT
Taxpayer - having just read your reply about my post I find you offensive and rude!! Everyone is allowed their opinions and I was, like more people have done, stating that not everything is cut and dried and as easy as keeping your loved ponies. You cannot assume that people sell ponies just because they want to - a lot of the time circumstances dictate you have to.
I will not say any more as obviously not all people are ready to see both sides of a story.
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