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Post by Hmmmmmmm on Apr 17, 2014 13:30:00 GMT
Why are people so obsessed with Fylde saddles when there are beautiful much more well made saddles available? In my opinion they are much too flat on some ponies and I've seen terrible pinching and rubbing as a result.
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Post by bunny on Apr 17, 2014 13:34:54 GMT
I moved away from them a few years ago onto adjustable saddles so we could work around their shape changing but I am having a real game fitting my very long suffering Fell and have been reccomemded to go back to a Fylde.
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Post by chalky284 on Apr 17, 2014 13:42:12 GMT
Think it's probably a trend, just like anything else. There will be many people who adore their fylde saddles and won't have anything else, but as is usual it's all down to preference. Often it's also to do with what those who win the big shows and producers use, then people will copy so they can emulate their successes.
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Post by roxy93 on Apr 17, 2014 13:51:21 GMT
We have used fylde saddles since ponies and on the ponies wouldn't have used anything else back then as in our preference nothing suited as well. Throughout the years we have used them also on the bigger ponies. But now I have a small hack I had Marjorie that I had on my previous horse took It to be widened by Peter so it fitted correctly and it still wouldn't sit on my horse right so we have now moved onto an Oakfield Ramsay and I must say the saddle is so very very comfy and also 1/4 of the price so cannot moan!! I notice on the small ponies that fyldes are used a lot but I think Haydens and Samanthas on the ponies are great saddles flaps are not to long and they sit very nice. But I wont getting another fylde unless I find myself with another M&M.
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Post by sjw87 on Apr 17, 2014 14:20:49 GMT
I will only use a saddle with wool flocking.
The latex panels of a fylde don't allow enough room for adjustment.
Any traditional wooden tree can have it's width altered by a saddler with the right equipment presuming the shape of the tree suits the horse (eg curved or flat along the length) but without flocking, you lose the ability to allow for any asymmetric differences or the general fune tuning you really need.
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Post by sjw87 on Apr 17, 2014 14:22:54 GMT
Just to add, putting a sheepskin numnah under an ill fitting saddle does not make the saddle ok.
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Post by fanfarefan on Apr 17, 2014 18:30:28 GMT
Fotunately i dont have saddle fitting problems now i have minis , but it does seem to be Fylde this and Fylde that nowadays , ive never used one and im sure they have their place , however when i was showing ( ridden ) it was always fit the horse first , then the rider , and hopefully the two would come together, but the make of the saddle was irrelevant as long as it fitted, what i als cant understand , and ive said this before , how can you buy a saddle over the internet and know that it will fit ,,, all aaddles are different
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Post by highlanderlass on Apr 17, 2014 18:34:30 GMT
Fotunately i dont have saddle fitting problems now i have minis , but it does seem to be Fylde this and Fylde that nowadays , ive never used one and im sure they have their place , however when i was showing ( ridden ) it was always fit the horse first , then the rider , and hopefully the two would come together, but the make of the saddle was irrelevant as long as it fitted, what i als cant understand , and ive said this before , how can you buy a saddle over the internet and know that it will fit ,,, all aaddles are different Very well said. I asked about to see what other Darties had but gave up and ended up doing a template for my fellow, he's now moving so much better. After trying a well known brand (not Fylde) and seeing the mess it can make I certainly wouldn't do that again. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by Philippa on Apr 17, 2014 18:37:40 GMT
I've just bought 2 saddles from someone on here. They both fit great. One was for a really difficult to fit pony. I couldn't believe my luck. I've bought 3 saddles for my sec a LR. All over the Internet. One a fylde Hayden. One a silhouette and one un named. All fit fab. Guess she's just a standard size!!
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Post by watchbank on Apr 17, 2014 18:40:27 GMT
I had a fylde davina for my welsh cob and it was fine until she changed shape then even re fitted it just looked so small on her so i bought a ideal ramsay instead but i have kept the flyde saddle and had it fitted to my coloured non native and its great on her!
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Post by Norris on Apr 17, 2014 19:07:08 GMT
I think you will find fylde trees are the same as Ideal
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Post by dancer on Apr 17, 2014 20:34:05 GMT
I have had Fylde saddles in the past but they caused so many back problems my physio was losing patience! The trees may be the same as Ideal but the padding certainly isn't any where near as substantial & that is probably why they 'seem'to fit so many different breeds/shapes of pony. Yes, they look good & are very 'fashionable' but sometimes owners forget to take the comfort of their pony into account & simply follow the trend.
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Post by horseylady on Apr 17, 2014 20:46:40 GMT
I was just thinking exactly the same the other day. They are nothing special and yes, far nicer saddles on the market and cheaper. I wish people wouldn't follow a trend and think for themselves. The same for bits ... but that's another thread
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Post by teabag on Apr 17, 2014 21:07:51 GMT
I bought a made to measure Fylde Ray for my mare 8 years ago ( took her over to Peter to measure and fit it). It still fits her beautifully and i've never had any problems with it. I wouldn't ha e anything else on a cob... I tried the ideal and it caused pressure points and moved allover the place. My Fylde Ray doesn't move at all!
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Post by Philippa on Apr 17, 2014 21:34:40 GMT
Personally it's horses for courses. I had a lengthy chat with Peter the other day about a few different things and have the upmost respect for what he has brought into the horse world.
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Post by Philippa on Apr 17, 2014 21:35:47 GMT
On that note I also spoke to Nicky from Meynell saddlery the other day too about a sillouette saddle and I have to say she also knows her stuff too.
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Post by Guestless on Apr 17, 2014 21:42:49 GMT
I like the look of the Fylde Ray but a perfectly happy with my Andrea Hicks (formerly NPSC) saddles. I did have one Fell in a Fylde Samantha - most uncomfortable saddle I have ever sat on! Looks lovely in the show ring, but if you want to do anything more practical like hacking in it, it's not my cup of tea!
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Post by highlanderlass on Apr 17, 2014 21:44:02 GMT
There's always going to be great debates about saddles, it would be very boring (but handy) if one saddle fitted everything. I am sure that Fylde saddles are popular because the saddler does his best, therefore people will buy again and they obviously have a decent reputation. I would never buy a saddle because it's a certain brand, fit is most important for my pony.
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Post by honeypot on Apr 17, 2014 22:29:43 GMT
I think its more to do with the 'safety' of brand names and knowing what their standard fits are. I used to know that a Barnsby No 5 fit had a good chance of fitting or an Ideal wide so when I was shopping I would look for those first. I have bought some lovely saddles of not well known makes off e-bay, its a risk but if they are cheap enough you can always sell them on. I have five saddles in my loft that I spent hours finding and I am reluctant to sell. I hate to see saddles that are not wide enough for the pony and perch on their backs like a peg on a clothes line. I am old enough to remember frying pan saddles which all had very thin serge panels. It is also a lot easier to get a saddle to stay put with a less round animal, our ponies used to be a lot slimmer, now they are trying to fit a saddle to something that may have very little wither and shaped like a football, so if the saddle has a huge amount of padding it is more likely to get a bit rolley. There are have always been fashions in saddles, we now have close contact when its not that long ago we have very thick panels, and dressage saddles that held the rider in one spot, which must have been hell for the horse. I think new technology should make it easier to find out what should be comfortable for the horse but I think most people would not pay the extra costs for fitting.
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Post by fernwhitecharity on Apr 18, 2014 19:12:20 GMT
I thought the guest area was for problems that users didn't want to discuss under their user names (such as divorce, lame ponies etc) not for having a go at saddlers? I'm supprised the mods have let it continue.
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Post by fanfarefan on Apr 18, 2014 20:39:33 GMT
Well i think the OP was a far question , regardless , guest post or not and i think the the response has been positive and imformative, all to help the welfare of a good fitting saddle,that cant be bad ,surely
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Post by highlanderlass on Apr 18, 2014 21:05:41 GMT
Well i think the OP was a far question , regardless , guest post or not and i think the the response has been positive and imformative, all to help the welfare of a good fitting saddle,that cant be bad ,surely I couldn't agree more. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by shazbat500 on Apr 18, 2014 21:59:31 GMT
I have a Fylde Marjorie and it was pure fluke that I got it my friend bought it for her mare and it didn't fit, so I tried it on my section D and it fit perfectly, it also fits my welsh part bred perfectly and they are totally different build but it fits them both like a glove and I wouldn't be without it. I have also tried it on my friends flat backed part bred dales and it fits him perfectly too. It was the best thing I have bought so comfy. Although I wouldn't have gone out and specifically bought one then but I think I would now
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Post by Springtime on Apr 20, 2014 19:52:37 GMT
i think it just depends what fits a particular horse. some makes of saddle will never suit a particular shape of horse.
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Post by sparkysunny on Apr 20, 2014 20:15:30 GMT
I don't have any Fylde tack but what I have fits/suits my ponies well. However, I think that, from what I've heard, Fylde offer great quality and service and that, IMO, is very important. Personally I wouldn't buy a saddle 'untried' - I would want a reputable saddler to bring a selection of saddles to try, but for bridles etc if you are looking for quality and service, Fylde seem to have both in bucketloads.
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Post by pipandwill on Apr 20, 2014 22:39:55 GMT
Much rather have a well fitting comfy saddle then have to sit on wood but it be 'trendy'
But tbh, different horses suit different types of saddles, but I do think the Fylde's look neat on.
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Post by catkin on Apr 21, 2014 13:10:19 GMT
I do have quite a bit of Fylde tack and find it excellent quality and a lovely fit for the ponies. The staff are all friendly and helpful. THAT is why I buy the tack and I imagine quite a few people do for the same reasons. I am sure there are plenty of good alternatives, but if people are happy buying Fylde, why knock it? It's a free market, buy what you want and like!
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Post by Welshcob92 on Apr 21, 2014 22:50:23 GMT
I'd love to know how people are coming to the assumption that people only buy fylde tack due to it being 'the trend', I know many people with fylde tack, myself included but not soley fylde tack, that have never said they buy it because it's 'trendy' - confused as to what the point of this thread is??
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Post by Philippa on Apr 22, 2014 7:57:49 GMT
I don't buy it because it's trendy. When I order small pony bridle I know it will fit a tiny head. Fylde are experienced in their field and shouldn't be knocked for it.
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Post by cathor45 on Apr 22, 2014 8:28:19 GMT
I think its very unfair to have this thread - i have a samantha on my a as its suits, i had an oakfield on the sp and an unknown on the fell. Peter checked the oakfield, altered it a bit and pronounced it suitable - he didnt attempt to sell his own brand, just gave amazing advice which we have taken back to the yard and used to check the fit of lots of other saddles. In every thing you buy you are going to get good and bad recomendations, sometimes a piece of equipment will cause issues but i think a combination of factors are at fault not just the saddle? Its testament to Fyldes service and fantastic products that they sell worldwide - so rather than a trend i do think its reputation that have people going back to Fylde time and again. I see lots of saddles that dont fit ponies - but as we dont know the brand we blame the owner not the saddler! Most people regconise a fylde so if they see one that doesnt fit they blame the saddler. Not really fair In my opinion? Also i do seem to remember reading / hearing that show saddles should be for the show ring, something more substantial should be used for everyday riding?
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