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Post by bunny on Apr 22, 2014 8:54:42 GMT
Peter altered my Adam Ellis saddle after our pony had lost weight and I was at his stand trying to buy one of his impact numnahs. I adore our saddle, he remarked on what a good well made saddle it was and ideal for the pony rider combination. great guy
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Post by Hmmmmm on Apr 22, 2014 9:58:54 GMT
This wasn't meant as a dig to the saddler - he is obviously very experienced and if the saddle is properly fitted fair enough. More the huge trend that seems to have occurred as of late for people fitting their own saddles and only choosing Fyldes as they see the producers using them. I think they suit smaller ponies a lot better than some of the bigger natives with heavier riders on their backs - surely a bit more padding is needed? I don't see why people can't judge this for themselves and have to act like sheep!
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Post by daffyd on Apr 22, 2014 10:03:47 GMT
I agree for ponys they are brilliant, dont like them on larger native breeds
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Post by Philippa on Apr 22, 2014 10:20:04 GMT
Also i do seem to remember reading / hearing that show saddles should be for the show ring, something more substantial should be used for everyday riding? Totally agree. Mine always have a show saddle and an exercise saddle.
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Post by Welshcob92 on Apr 22, 2014 14:36:04 GMT
My section d mare is ridden in a fylde ray saddle and deffinatley doesn't look ridiculous in it, so I have to say they don't just suit small ponies
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Post by red on Apr 22, 2014 15:40:15 GMT
Rays and Micks look absolutely fine on the larger natives! However my Samantha wouldn't. Fylde make a variance of show saddles to fit from smalls to larges which i guess aids the popularity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 16:01:14 GMT
I have just purchased after looking for months a fylde Hayden for my Dartmoor. He's been notorious, as most Dartmoor owners will know to find a saddle that fits. I agree they don't have a huge lot of flocking etc like other saddles but it fits he's happy being ridden in it. At the end of the day all my horses that show have 2 saddles. One for every day and one for showing that they wear for their classes. I don't think I would have him ridden every day in his show saddle as that's where problems would arise. Peter has been ever so helpful and has had all the time in the world for answering questions which made me happy with my decision in buying a fylde. And I also like all his other tack too
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Post by fanfarefan on Apr 22, 2014 17:04:47 GMT
Crikey , how things have changed , i only ever had one saddle that did all , T/O , showing , exercising , hunting , xc , i could only afford one decent saddle , i had to look after it and it had to do everything !!!!!
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Post by teabag on Apr 22, 2014 23:41:07 GMT
I didn't buy my saddle because it was A Fylde - bought it because it fit!!!! And because the saddle fitter offered a good service!! Nothing 'trendy' about that - just common sense!! OP needs to get a grip!! We don't all just follow the trend!!! I tried about 40 saddles before I chose my Fylde Ray...best decision I ever made!!!
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Post by dancer on Apr 23, 2014 7:43:33 GMT
I don't think anyone is doubting that the saddles fit some breeds/types/shapes but how many times do you read threads on here asking 'which style of Fylde should I buy for my .......' or 'which Fylde saddle does everyone use on their .......' - this implies they are choosing the saddle by it's design & fit on someone else's pony rather than trying one to see if it actually fits their own.
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Post by Bonkers on Apr 23, 2014 8:01:02 GMT
I have used Fylde saddles for at least 12 years that I can remember! I think it's personal preference, fit for the pony and the overall look. Most show saddles (in my opinion) look far too bulky and are hardly neat for the show ring. Fylde saddle have a neat, tidy look and are always my first choice of saddle. However I will buy whatever fits the pony, not whatever trend is current!
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Post by teabag on Apr 23, 2014 22:13:26 GMT
BTW I don't just use my Fylde Ray for the show ring.... We do TREC ( lots of miles), hacking, x country, dressage and lots of other things! Best saddle i've ever sat on ...
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Post by rosebud on Apr 24, 2014 0:19:03 GMT
I bought a fylde saddle for my daughters lead rein pony because I knew the tree shape was the correct fit for him and the saddle can easily be adjusted by my saddler and not just by fylde. The saddle is neat and comfortable. I buy leatherwork from Fylde because I like the quality and craftsmanship of it and let's face it, showing and show tack is their speciality. When my hack filly is ready to break I will get her either a fylde saddle, ideal Ramsay or a Black Country as I know the tree shape will suit her. Obviously my saddler will do all the templating and fitting. It's not a case of following a trend, It's the quality of the craftsmanship, the service and the aftercare/after service. Fylde are very good at what they do, they offer products (especially for ponies) that you would otherwise struggle to find. The years they have been trading and the repeat business they get is the proof in the pudding and that is why they are so popular rather than trendy and also why their products hold their value well
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Post by sbloom on Apr 24, 2014 15:35:48 GMT
Slightlier bulky saddles have their merits, and it is arguable that those that choose them are putting their horse's comfort before asthetics. A pony that goes superbly and has a great back musculature should win over one that has a "neat" saddle. And I will say that SOME very close contact showing saddles are indeed really only for the ring. Those that are "bulkier" are entirely suitable for everyday riding. And yes, of course I am biased, but I also go out and fit saddles day in day out, mostly for natives, and many for show animals, and I see what the wrong saddle can do. The definition of what fits is not a fixed thing, what I think fits well will not be the same as some show producers, and some other saddle fitters. Art not science.
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Post by satchmo on Apr 24, 2014 18:35:34 GMT
I had never had a Fylde saddle before I got my highland in August. We struggled to get a flocked saddle to fit him properly and after much deliberation I bought a Fylde Ray, it fits perfectly and is extreamly comfortable. My main reservation with having a Fylde was the fact I have to send it back to be altered leaving me without as I'm not always in a position to get to them and have always had a saddle fitter come to the yard to alter. That said its been back to them once and at it was returned within 3 days so I was very impressed. I'm looking for a saddle for my daughters dartmoor but I'm open minded on what brand that will be, i need a little worker type saddle thats suitable for her in first ridden but also suitable for her to jump as she is just learning and as I am looking for second hand because I just cannot afford to buy a new one at the moment the search could be a long one! The main reservation I have with fylde with this pony is that it's only young, was poor when it came and is changing shape so quickly I do not a: want to keep sending it away and b: be responsible for its templates with a wire coat hanger as I'm certainly no saddle fitter I need someone to come and assess them.
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Post by LMSmith on Apr 24, 2014 20:35:59 GMT
Out of interest has anyone actually had a saddler take a fylde hayden apart to see what foam is actually in it?
I have, and it makes for interesting viewing...
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Post by dancer on Apr 24, 2014 22:26:33 GMT
Are you able to say what the findings were LMSmith?
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Post by Like on Apr 25, 2014 13:40:17 GMT
I have fylde saddles on both my horses and ride in them every day. One a Samantha, one a Davina. No complaints from me or the ponies.
I recently visited Fylde and he said that flocked saddles can't be adjusted very well and by altering the flocking to alter the wideth can make them uneven and uncomfortable for the horse, so better to get the tree widened the way Fylde does.
Ive used Fylde for 10 years, not because they are fashionable (didn't realise they were) but because they are good saddles, comfortable and fit, and he is very accessible to get them checked and altered.
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Post by LMSmith on Apr 25, 2014 14:29:17 GMT
Put it this way dancer, I will never ride in another hayden again.
They would be fine if only used for children under 6 stone but if you had any idea what was supporting all your weight on your horses back, I would imagine you would be shocked. This of course is only my opinion but I cannot tell you how shocked I was when my saddler showed me what she had taken out of a hayden....
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Post by dancer on Apr 25, 2014 15:55:51 GMT
Put it this way dancer, I will never ride in another hayden again. They would be fine if only used for children under 6 stone but if you had any idea what was supporting all your weight on your horses back, I would imagine you would be shocked. This of course is only my opinion but I cannot tell you how shocked I was when my saddler showed me what she had taken out of a hayden.... I wish I was shocked but sadly not The last Fylde I used (Samantha) left an imprint on the pony's back from the creases on the panels & you could feel the metal fixings inside through the 'padding'. ?
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Post by LMSmith on Apr 25, 2014 16:33:48 GMT
Put it this way dancer, I will never ride in another hayden again. They would be fine if only used for children under 6 stone but if you had any idea what was supporting all your weight on your horses back, I would imagine you would be shocked. This of course is only my opinion but I cannot tell you how shocked I was when my saddler showed me what she had taken out of a hayden.... I wish I was shocked but sadly not The last Fylde I used (Samantha) left an imprint on the pony's back from the creases on the panels & you could feel the metal fixings inside through the 'padding'. ? Yes I can imagine! They are show saddles and therefore should only be used to show in, if they must be used at all!
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Post by rattler on Apr 26, 2014 12:23:21 GMT
Fylde are made by Ideal are they? so you can buy a "fylde" with an Ideal badge for a quarter of the price? I can be stand corrected on this
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Post by dancer on Apr 26, 2014 14:51:48 GMT
The Fylde Marjorie is similar in style to the Ideal Ramsay - I have never owned the Fylde version so can't comment on any particular differences.
I have never seen any other Ideal saddle made in the same style as a Fylde.
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Post by sjw87 on Apr 27, 2014 14:49:56 GMT
Fylde are made by Ideal are they? so you can buy a "fylde" with an Ideal badge for a quarter of the price? I can be stand corrected on this I don't know the answer to this but, what happens with a lot of stuff (feed, tack etc) is that an item is actually made by someone else who also sells their own. It doesn't necessarily mean it has the same specification though - as an example, the feed company I work for has it's poultry feed made by a different local feed merchant. Although our feed is made by them and they do their own, own brand, ours is made to our specification. It is the company name on the product who dictates the quality and price of the product, not who makes it for them. Sent from my GT-I9195 using proboards
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Post by mf on Apr 27, 2014 19:30:37 GMT
Fylde are made by Ideal are they? so you can buy a "fylde" with an Ideal badge for a quarter of the price? I can be stand corrected on this definitely not the same saddle at all. Ive got one of each and the Fylde Marjorie is lighter, flimsier and is not flocked The ideal ramsay is flocked, much heavier and a more substantial saddle. My saddler came to refit this year before the start of the season(each saddle is for a different pony) and advised I don't ride in the fylde all the time and I use a pro gelpad under it (which I do anyway). The ideal was much more expensive but is better quality. I use that for several purposes not just showing. A dead sheep won't make a saddle fit and although the width can be altered the padding cannot on a fylde as they are not flocked. I do use fyldes, sometimes they are the only saddle which fits an awkward shape but I do believe you get what you pay for and would say my black country and my ideal saddles are both superior.
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Post by welshiegirl on Apr 28, 2014 5:09:04 GMT
Is Fylde even a trend? I don't buy my tack from Fylde because it's "trendy" we've had saddle fitters out to my c and they recommended it. We had Peter fit ours because my c is a hard shape to fit for, we used Fylde because it's recommended, the closest fitting saddle was a Fylde so naturally went there. Plus it's one of the only saddlers you see at shows that has all the saddles etc out on such a big scale, compared to the few other saddlers. Peters provided a fantastic service, I have the ray vs or whatever it is, fits pony perfectly, comfortable and looks smart, plus if we ever needed it adjusting we can go get it done and checked. Never had a bad experience xx
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Post by teabag on Apr 28, 2014 21:59:46 GMT
My Fylde Ray doesn't have flocking or foam.... It has rubber panels.... And after 7 years of a perfect fit ( all the time not just in the show ring) I'm perfectly happt with mine
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Post by rattler on Apr 30, 2014 13:28:21 GMT
I think you will find that the Hayden, Samantha, Ray V plus and Xena are same saddle, its easy to google. I do stand corrected on price, Ideal are only between 20-100 cheaper sorry to misslead. Im not knocking Flyde as my Haydon has treated my pony well over the years ( he has a day saddle as well)and the gentleman who owns the company is perfect, helpful and approchable. Saying this my new worker saddle is a different make.
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Post by marymary on May 1, 2014 7:07:20 GMT
We dont use anything but Fylde, shoot me down. Been showing since the 80's and Fylde have supplied our saddlery since the 90's not had any back issues, ponies have a saddle each and do not share them . They are worked at home in them too also use their worker saddles ...shock horror! I have got another well known make of show saddle sitting in the tack room which cost £1200 back in 2003 , pony was measured at the NPS championships and when it arrived it was awful, never fitted properly, pony stopped moving as he did and was hell to ride in..so it sat in tackroom ever since as said Co refused to do anything about it . I wont lower myself to name this Co apart from they also charged us £50 to deliver the saddle !
I do wonder who has started this thread, I am logged on not hiding behind a guest name, do hope its not a competitor to Fylde , unable to match Fyldes knowledge and reputation they are reverting to these sort of tatics? If so may I suggest they spend the time working on their own marketing and PR campaign rather than try and tarnish another established business's reputation .
Oh an I also had a Ramsay - I part ex it back to Peter as also fitted by a saddler local to myself it rubbed open sores on a pony's back in one piece of work ...so it would appear they are not always perfect too.
If I was to use another brand other than Fylde than it would be Black Country .
I always check my saddles thoroughly new or second hand and if not happy with anything they would go right back .
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Post by Welshcob92 on May 1, 2014 12:27:51 GMT
Rattler, I'm sorry but I don't know how Google tells you that a samantha and a fylde ray are identical saddles? There not even remotely like each other?! Can't comment on the xena or the haydon as I haven't owned one of these
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