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Post by not-a-charity on Jun 19, 2014 23:19:29 GMT
Utter carnage in the M&M Fr when a huge bomber plane decided to fly very low right over their ring when on go round - totally unannounced and upon the ring before anyone knew or could do anything about it. Jockeys and ponies flying everywhere before anyone could get to them - if county shows insist on having these dramatic air displays then surely for young children's' safety, surely it would be better to have these classes first thing. How no-one was seriously hurt I don't know - and full credit to each and every little jockey that went back in that ring - even when parachutes started falling out of the sky half an hour after the bomber plane. Both judges were great with all the children after the first unannounced incident and totally apologetic that no warning was given.
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Post by showponies28 on Jun 19, 2014 23:52:49 GMT
HOYS Connies: 1st - Walstead Pageboy 2nd - Tyan First Night Qualified
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Post by woldse on Jun 20, 2014 4:36:20 GMT
Bomber planes red arrows for what 45 minutes. Completely ridiculous. Rings should have been stood down. Jockeys coming off and crying. I bet a lot of little jockeys will be nervous for a long time. Felt for animals in the box park as red arrows kept flying over and over them.
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Post by welshiegirl on Jun 20, 2014 5:02:30 GMT
Am I been thick but I can't find the m&m championship photos online? me either !? They're up! X
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Post by flashstar118 on Jun 20, 2014 6:07:17 GMT
I couldn't agree more. Standing down the rings would not cause any harm, some would say that a Fr pony is supposed to be bomb proof, however I believe for the saftey of children the ring should have been stood down.
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Post by bubbles1822 on Jun 20, 2014 6:46:34 GMT
Last year after the red arrows upsetting most of the ponies last year I rang up asking what they were going to do as it is unfair on competitors to firstly spend the money on fuel, stables, entries etc to have the ponies upset on the day and for shows after(if anything like the welsh d we have!) they promised it wasn't going to happen again this year as health and safety etc but it did.... We hadn't taken the ponies but I felt sorry for all competitors who's ponies were unsettled....
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Post by 3rdtimelucky on Jun 20, 2014 6:46:41 GMT
Here here re air displays. The first unannounced Red Arrows fly by happened as my pony entered the whp ring-ears & eyes on stalks and totally lost his concentration as they continued their display.
There's always lots happening around the rings at Lincoln and that's part of the show's charm but low flying, v noisy air displays over pony/horse rings especially when unannounced is too much IMO
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Post by Philippa on Jun 20, 2014 6:53:37 GMT
I suggest everyone puts pen to paper regarding this or nothing will be done. If they are bombarded with complaints they will have to seriously consider stopping the rings or the display altogether. Ludicrous.
I do think a FR pony should be bombproof but there are exceptions and I would consider this to be one of them. I would be screaming from the rooftops about it had my daughter been in the ring at said time (she would have ended up in the next county on her current pony)
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Post by Ridesapphire on Jun 20, 2014 6:56:13 GMT
Results please for the Hoys 15 SHP's line up would be great Thanks
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Post by dingdong on Jun 20, 2014 7:18:55 GMT
The first ridden carnage was horrific to watch, half the class were totally out of control and riderless ponies were galloping round the ring. Well done to the stewards and judges for letting everyone out and calm down before restarting the class. Nothing else they could have done. Luckily our pony just stood there but a lot of very frightened jockeys - and parents.
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Post by sometime on Jun 20, 2014 12:24:17 GMT
Not sure I agree I am sad that the first riddens were badly affected as it is very unpleasant for a child to be frightened but county shows are full of buzz, and guns going off, aircraft and parachutists are all part of the county and its heritage perhaps if your horse cannot be trusted to behave then county shows as they are are not for you and horse shows should be exclusively for horses. I suppose I am biased as I love the red arrows and the Battle of Britain memorial flight and as we live in Lincolnshire they regularly fly over our horses who dont even flinch anymore I am not certain that a first ridden is a first ridden if it isn't bombproof to be honest who is to say if the child was riding it at home in a field or school it wouldn't cause a nasty accident if an air ambulance helicopter flew over or had to land close by Not sure about the dakota but the red arrows were announced clearly several times over, displayed away from the rings and only over flew once at which point the rings were stood down
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Post by delfachhighwayman on Jun 20, 2014 14:01:06 GMT
Not sure I agree I am sad that the first riddens were badly affected as it is very unpleasant for a child to be frightened but county shows are full of buzz, and guns going off, aircraft and parachutists are all part of the county and its heritage perhaps if your horse cannot be trusted to behave then county shows as they are are not for you and horse shows should be exclusively for horses. I suppose I am biased as I love the red arrows and the Battle of Britain memorial flight and as we live in Lincolnshire they regularly fly over our horses who dont even flinch anymore I am not certain that a first ridden is a first ridden if it isn't bombproof to be honest who is to say if the child was riding it at home in a field or school it wouldn't cause a nasty accident if an air ambulance helicopter flew over or had to land close by Not sure about the dakota but the red arrows were announced clearly several times over, displayed away from the rings and only over flew once at which point the rings were stood down Not sure I agree with this. People have died in the past due to low flying aircraft and I think its entirely unfair to expect these ponies and riders to tolerate this when the atmosphere is already buzzing
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Post by welshiegirl on Jun 20, 2014 14:05:36 GMT
My friend took a photo of the welsh c class with the red arrows flying over, not one of them were moving and it looked fantastic! However spooks and frightened ponies could be understandable it's not every day you have low flying air craft! Well done to everyone yesterday :-)
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Post by hannahj on Jun 20, 2014 14:38:14 GMT
The Dakota was extremely low and banked over just above them. I live under manchester Airport runway so my horses are used to it but some ponies don't regularly see very loud low planes above them. It can be frightening for adults, let alone ponies and children!
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Post by smalley on Jun 20, 2014 15:01:50 GMT
Has anyone got the F/D/H marks please I can't find them on the website
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Post by welshiegirl on Jun 20, 2014 15:05:48 GMT
If you go to terri gregson on Facebook they're all on there xx
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Post by smalley on Jun 20, 2014 15:16:05 GMT
Please could you post the link because I can't find any - I might not be looking on the right page?! Thank you x
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Post by welshiegirl on Jun 20, 2014 15:29:04 GMT
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Post by smalley on Jun 20, 2014 20:51:27 GMT
Thank you! x
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Post by lisamc96 on Jun 21, 2014 13:56:29 GMT
Does anyone know the full HOYS line up for the highlands, fells and dales ?
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Post by waspblue on Jun 21, 2014 14:45:03 GMT
Does anyone know the full HOYS line up for the highlands, fells and dales ? I'd also like these too please, as well as Sec D Ridden HOYS, if anyone can help. Thankyou x
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Post by showpony16 on Jun 21, 2014 14:59:00 GMT
14.2 SP line up please?
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Post by not-a-charity on Jun 21, 2014 15:51:11 GMT
Dance all night won, Scallywag 3rd - that's all I can remember- sorry
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 19:29:12 GMT
Dance all night won, Scallywag 3rd - that's all I can remember- sorry Lindeth Salvador 4th.
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Post by showpony16 on Jun 21, 2014 20:09:27 GMT
Dance all night won, Scallywag 3rd - that's all I can remember- sorry Lindeth Salvador 4th. Thank you!
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Post by woldse on Jun 22, 2014 5:03:54 GMT
Not sure I agree I am sad that the first riddens were badly affected as it is very unpleasant for a child to be frightened but county shows are full of buzz, and guns going off, aircraft and parachutists are all part of the county and its heritage perhaps if your horse cannot be trusted to behave then county shows as they are are not for you and horse shows should be exclusively for horses. I suppose I am biased as I love the red arrows and the Battle of Britain memorial flight and as we live in Lincolnshire they regularly fly over our horses who dont even flinch anymore I am not certain that a first ridden is a first ridden if it isn't bombproof to be honest who is to say if the child was riding it at home in a field or school it wouldn't cause a nasty accident if an air ambulance helicopter flew over or had to land close by Not sure about the dakota but the red arrows were announced clearly several times over, displayed away from the rings and only over flew once at which point the rings were stood down What a stupid remark! A pony had it's own mind so will never be bomb proof. Living in lincolnshire you should be aware of how many people get hurt because of low flying planes. They are probably riding their bomb proof happy hacker how can you be certain what any living thing with it's own mind will do. The red arrows were whizzing around the outside of the show ground for a very long time. I know probably practising over base at scampton but still causing absolute carnage. It made lincoln a waste of time fuel and money for a lot of people.
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Post by ilovenatives on Jun 22, 2014 10:54:55 GMT
I think those conditions would test the even the most bombproof of pony . Do complain as if lots do they might take notice . At Edenbridge and Oxted show they have the hunt display in the main ring at the same time as the FR which was fine until the footpacks came past the ring blowing the horn and hounds ran into the ring during the go round . Our pony thought this was rather exciting and had a good bronk . I emailed and complained as there was no reason why the hounds can't leave by another gate and not come past . The following year most used the other exit and the few who came past were under control and the huntsman didn't blow the horn .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 19:26:31 GMT
Placed ponies in the 143 SHP PLEASE 1st silk mill covergirl 2nd stychlands chanticleer 3rd Special Agent 4th Rhosyr Elizabeth 5th Nutwood Spring Xharm 6th Wycroft New Dimension Holly Hobson and Lindeth Talisman best rider.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 19:33:08 GMT
I actually think that in the HOYS shp classes in the Scampton Ring the Red Arrows were dealt with exceptionally! The class stopped and the pony who was ready to its show went back into line and riders were allowed to dismount and asked to take their ponies reins over their heads. I was very impressed by the way this class was dealt with, lots of ponies were naughty with the display whilst the planes went over and the riders were dismounted but it did not affect their marks which I thought was a fair way to deal with it.
Excellently dealt with but unfortunately a jockey did come off, felt very sorry for her as she had a very good chance in the class!
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Post by sometime on Jun 22, 2014 22:21:11 GMT
I do own horses in Lincolnshire I also attend the Lincolnshire show every year and every year there are complaints about the things that make the show as successful as it is this was the second time the red arrows performed in 2 years. They are part of the culture of Lincolnshire just as the bombers are if you don't like county shows it is simple vote with your feet and don't go it will save you money and stress, go to horse only shows. I have been to shows all over the country and there have been noisy spooky things at every county show I have been to white helmet motorcyclists, dancing diggers the young farmers floats, hunting horns, fairgrounds, bouncy castles close by, jingly jangly cart horses (which incidentally do spook my ponies) driving ponies and lots of other things that will upset a few in every class. Lincolnshire show did announce the arrival of the red arrows and the dakota and stood down the rings and made sure everyone knew they were coming. They were no nearer the rings than the average over flying aircraft and only over flew the actual showground once as far as I am aware in each trip. People are injured and killed far more often by cars and lorries on roads than are even spooked by aircraft this is a military area and the stupidest thing I have read on here is the idea that the show should exclusively cater for the horse people. My ponies were at the show they behaved impeccably didn't even spook, as did the vast majority of horses I saw in the collecting rings, they are not automatons though they are well adjusted and kind individuals who have been exposed throughout their lives to things that may be upsetting but what doesn't kill you makes you safer. I still maintain a first ridden or lead rein cannot be described as such if at any point their jockey isn't their first priority and they will react to stimuli by dumping their riders and or running off. Perhaps its time temperament was tested in these classes to make sure the true first riddens that did stand quietly while all the fuss was going on were the winners and anything that didn't behave should be sent out. Perhaps expecting them to stand while an aircraft flies over their head is a little extreme to some but I don't know of an English county that doesn't have aircraft, helicopters, tanks or other noisy activities so these ponies are dangerous full stop even in their own homes if they cannot be trusted with their charges in an emergency
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