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Post by Justify on Jul 9, 2014 12:21:17 GMT
Just pondering.......but when our family started off showing doing local riding clubs you could / still can qualify for all the major champs with out a change in the amount charged for the class... Yes you then needed to become a member to compete...so that would cover the cost of that society holding the champ show But I am wondering why the entry fees for HOYS qualifiers are soooo high in comparison...you still only get a normal rossette..and as stated on another thread may only be placed to 6th....everyone either pre pays or pays a levie on each entry...
And then if you shud ever be lucky to compete there the entry fee is not reduced by the amount of levies you may have contributed... Considering they make money on trade stands..and foot fall..soveniers etc... Can the entry fee be justified...??
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Post by louisegelly on Jul 9, 2014 13:46:20 GMT
I agree but as long as people keep paying it I dont ever see it coming down in price.
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Post by delfachhighwayman on Jul 9, 2014 14:49:52 GMT
I think it might be used as a mechanism to manage entry numbers as then those who feel they have a chance of qualifying will enter and those who dont think they stand a chance won't enter,t hus reducing the numbers to a managable number. However, this does then lead to HOYS qualification becoming eliteist....
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Post by chloesmum on Jul 9, 2014 15:55:38 GMT
Think you will also find the RIHS and HOYS levy has a part to play in increasing entry fees - plus most qualifiers have 2 judges so again can increase costs.
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Post by fanfarefan on Jul 9, 2014 17:04:31 GMT
Interesting ,,,,, ive just qualified for MHOYS , that is Miniature Horse Of The Year Show , paid my IMHPS reg £25, at begining of the year, show to be held at Grantham i believe over 3 days, amd my entry fee per qualifying class was £6 , i know it is not HOYS itself but it just goes to show the difference and as far as im concerned just as good , it still involves exactly the same organization preparation rosettes sashes stables judges stewards etc !!!!
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Post by Toaster on Jul 9, 2014 20:45:52 GMT
I know it will probably sound silly but I'd love to see every competitor in a HOYS qualifying class get a rosette, it's a milestone for so many younger competitors even to take part
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Post by quackers1995 on Jul 9, 2014 22:23:49 GMT
I was very tempted to enter a load of HOYS qualifiers over the past week, but I've refused to due to the ridiculous expense. It seems that some shows do take the pee about how much they charge for a qualifying class when I could literally enter for the same class at a different show for almost half the price!
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Post by Justify on Jul 10, 2014 7:39:10 GMT
Yes there are 2 judges, but they usually only get paid travel expences.. Do the individal shows set there own charges for entry fees then, with only the levy going to HOYS itself...? I feel there should be a cap on the amount allowed to be charged.....
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Post by Cefn farm Horses on Jul 12, 2014 8:55:49 GMT
Entry fees are set by the shows. The levy is applied on top. I do feel that something should be done on entry fees / prize money. A high entry fee actually discourages entrants. Very often on schedules you will see a non qualifying class at £10/12 and the qualifier at £20 / 25 plus levy. Often the same judges will judge both classes. This then in turn discourages multiple entries due to cost. There is very little justification for the qualifier to be nearly double plus the levy.
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Post by snowman on Jul 15, 2014 19:39:02 GMT
Costs = say £35 for a hoys qualifier per class at Derbyshire Festival = 2 x judges, 3 x stewards, feeding 5 people, accommodation, hiring of the venue - somerford is expensive and we pay per acre, so more entries more lorries to pay to park. Hoys Levi, rossettes, price money, hidden costs - there isn't much change left from £35!!! People have no idea how much it costs to run a show, plus the time put into running a show, we as a committee don't get paid at all. Some shows do cost more, but their outgoings are higher - exhibitors def get the best value we can offer.
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Post by Philippa on Jul 15, 2014 19:51:06 GMT
Costs = say £35 for a hoys qualifier per class at Derbyshire Festival = 2 x judges, 3 x stewards, feeding 5 people, accommodation, hiring of the venue - somerford is expensive and we pay per acre, so more entries more lorries to pay to park. Hoys Levi, rossettes, price money, hidden costs - there isn't much change left from £35!!! People have no idea how much it costs to run a show, plus the time put into running a show, we as a committee don't get paid at all. Some shows do cost more, but their outgoings are higher - exhibitors def get the best value we can offer. I think this summarises very well, what I do object to is when entries are accepted on the day or running up to the show after closing date and are double the cost. I've been a show secretary so know the work that goes in prior to the day and on show days but like you say the committee work for the love of it so feel the double the entry fee is a bit steep.
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Post by snowman on Jul 15, 2014 20:04:23 GMT
Costs = say £35 for a hoys qualifier per class at Derbyshire Festival = 2 x judges, 3 x stewards, feeding 5 people, accommodation, hiring of the venue - somerford is expensive and we pay per acre, so more entries more lorries to pay to park. Hoys Levi, rossettes, price money, hidden costs - there isn't much change left from £35!!! People have no idea how much it costs to run a show, plus the time put into running a show, we as a committee don't get paid at all. Some shows do cost more, but their outgoings are higher - exhibitors def get the best value we can offer. I think this summarises very well, what I do object to is when entries are accepted on the day or running up to the show after closing date and are double the cost. I've been a show secretary so know the work that goes in prior to the day and on show days but like you say the committee work for the love of it so feel the double the entry fee is a bit steep. Totally agree and that is why we don't dont offer it as a show - my spring show takes entries on the day but offers a lower rate if you pre enter
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Post by Springtime on Jul 15, 2014 20:07:39 GMT
highland pony society only charged £18 to its members at the breed show - £7 entry fee which was same as the normal classes plus the £11 levy.
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