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Post by milliecocospencer on Jul 21, 2014 19:23:51 GMT
I came across a post today that people are putting notices on telegraph post asking horse riders to pick up their poo, there explaining how dog owners pick up there poo so why don't we. I am quite shocked about this as I don't think it is fair as some riders might need a mountain block to get on and I thinks it's quite dangerous, also if you had a you gster it could be dangerous, I've been brought up to never get of your horse in a hack as it can be dangerous. I am wondering what other peoples opinions are about this. Thank you
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Post by Toaster on Jul 21, 2014 20:20:32 GMT
its crazy. I dont think that people understand that horse poo doesnt pose the risk that dog mess does. some people are so far removed from livestock these days!
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Post by milliecocospencer on Jul 21, 2014 21:34:13 GMT
Exactly the people are even stapling bags to the lost to put the poo in
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Post by sjw87 on Jul 21, 2014 21:49:13 GMT
The group of people at the greatest risk from horse muck on the road are motorcyclists - if a horse has shied into the middle of the road and pooed and that happens to be round a bend or over a bridge, it can be lethal.
However, most of the people with issues about horse muck are townies who don't realise that it's not got the same health risks that dog muck has.
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Post by waspblue on Jul 21, 2014 21:56:21 GMT
Only one word for this - RIDICULOUS - however myself and other riders in our local area have had this said to us on more than one occasion before now. It is an entirely different issue to the risks posed by waste left from carnivores.
It is political correctness gone mad, as is the case in so many other issues too. These people need to get a life and spend some of the time they waste moaning about things like this on trying to do something good and positive.
True though, as harrypatch says that people as so far removed from livestock these days in their clinical little worlds.
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Post by Philippa on Jul 21, 2014 22:04:44 GMT
There's a woman up the road from our yard who complains if your horse goes on the road outside her drive. She's complained lots of times to YO and can often be seen with the hose pipe washing it away.
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Post by mac on Jul 21, 2014 22:08:46 GMT
It depends when and where. If you are on a narrowish track shared with walkers, pram-pushers and cyclists I think it is only good manners to get off and kick droppings to the side. Better still, when you feel your horse is about to go, get him off to the side so he doesn't do droppings on the track (a good way to get practical use out of teaching your horse to leg yield!).
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Post by milliecocospencer on Jul 21, 2014 22:10:07 GMT
As most riders and horse are placed in a country area surly residents should expect poo and mud from farm machinery would sometimes drop on to the road?
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Post by Philippa on Jul 21, 2014 22:11:59 GMT
The one near us doesn't think it should be lol
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Post by halfpass on Jul 21, 2014 22:12:35 GMT
How times change, not so long ago the old girls would be standing on the door steps with a bucket and the coal shovel at the first sound of horses coming up the road, they would nearly come to blows over who get to any droppings first, the only complaint you got was " can't you give that orse a laxative as it don't leave enough to go round",
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Post by shazbat500 on Jul 21, 2014 22:23:28 GMT
lol my grandad used to beg me to ride past his house so he could have some manure for his roses he was gutted if they didnt have a poo :-)
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Post by chloesmum on Jul 22, 2014 7:42:02 GMT
Someone who moved in near us to a beautiful house with lovely equestrian facilities (of course all now beautifully manicure lawns and pretty fencing!) seriously asked the question of 'when do the council come round to clear the mud from the lane'! Another family (who I love dearly but are not country folk!) again brought our old PCDC's house and pondered over what to do with their 17 acres. We suggested sheep - but they decided they couldn't cope with the poo! It might damage their expensive designer shoes!
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Post by aura on Jul 22, 2014 9:40:41 GMT
If people move to villages then they should expect horses on the roads, We are V lucky that we do not have to go on the roads to hack so do not have issues with poo, however there are plenty of horses hacked around our village and I have yet to hear of any issues with poo. An issue we did come across the other day is the roard leading up to the yard in a single car road that can be used as a cross through to the next local village if the main route (a slightly wider road) is blocked so we sometimes get issues when we are in a horsebox. The road to our yard is on a hill with steep banks either side and we were in the horse box driving up it the other day when we came across someone in a car. They refused to move and made us reverse about 50ft!
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Post by smalley on Jul 22, 2014 10:29:58 GMT
Because of where we live we can only hack on quite busy roads, so getting off to move a poo would be stupid - trying to move it while hanging on to a big strong horse with lorries and double deckers coming past, then trying to get back on? I don't think so!! Luckily we've never had a problem as there are quite a few farms in the village we ride through so they're probably used to it dropping off tractors. If we drive up to another local village where's there's a longer off road route I don't think the people mind at all as the village is always doing well in 'Britain in Bloom' so they think the free poo is great!!
But I can't believe people to expect you to PICK UP the poo - do they not realise that horse poo is about 10 times bigger than dog poo, so in order to actually pick it up you'd need a bin bag and shovel, and then what do they want you to do with it? Carry it around for the rest of your hack? What if you have a horse that gets excited and poos about 100 times on a hack like mine does? I can understand moving it to the side if it could be dangerous for other road users but you don't want to put yourself in danger by doing so.
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Post by barclaybob on Jul 22, 2014 11:12:50 GMT
Are they providing poo bags on every lamp post/telegraph pole or do you have to hack half a mile back up the road to collect your poo bag and then go back and pick up the potentially squashed poo off the road...... Are they also going to provide 'Horse Poo Bins' lol!!!
Are these people actually simple?.....
Phhhhhfffffftttt! Whatever! Get a life and put your spare time to good use haha!!!
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Post by meld on Jul 22, 2014 11:39:44 GMT
I've heard people say this when we've been out hacking before. Someone at work said to me that riders should get off and pick up the poo. I said to her 'so you think we should get off on a busy road, shovel up poo, try and get back on holding our bag of poo and shovel, then ride around one handed whilst we hold our poo and shovel whilst buses, cars and lorries are passing us?' I don't think it sounded so feasible then. We would gladly not ride on the road and use bridleways, but there are none!
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Post by Toaster on Jul 22, 2014 11:46:54 GMT
Someone who moved in near us to a beautiful house with lovely equestrian facilities (of course all now beautifully manicure lawns and pretty fencing!) seriously asked the question of 'when do the council come round to clear the mud from the lane'! Another family (who I love dearly but are not country folk!) again brought our old PCDC's house and pondered over what to do with their 17 acres. We suggested sheep - but they decided they couldn't cope with the poo! It might damage their expensive designer shoes! Crikey. People in my village aren't as bad as that but they do park carelessly even though they have been told repeatedly that tractors need access through the village and they do complain about the sheep noise (though thankfully not about my twenty odd cockerels, perhaps I am too scary!) It seems to be getting worse, where does it stop? no animals on the road? no animals in fields with footpaths? no animals outdoors full stop? perhaps we could have animal cities and all the humans outside in a countryside free of pesky animals? its a shame that at a time where we have good food champions encouraging us to ask more about where our food comes from and more interest in allotment growing than there has been for years we still have people so clueless about animals Pass the chocolate!
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Post by liz00 on Jul 22, 2014 13:20:52 GMT
I get this all the time I often wonder if these people chase the birds if they poo on their cars or windows to get them to clean it off!!
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Post by maxandpaddy on Jul 22, 2014 13:28:30 GMT
I've told my daughter to politely say..... ''I'm sorry but its far too dangerous for me to get off my pony, pick up her pooh, get back on and then carry it home again!!!'' She just needs a little more work on the roll of the eyes and sarcastic tone
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Post by sarahp on Jul 22, 2014 13:43:06 GMT
Lots of big posh houses round here like to own land around them for the sake of privacy but don't want to actually use it. So many if not most of those farming for a living locally are using other people's land, although I did hear of one lot who paid a contractor to top their umpteen acres every couple of weeks to keep it tidy for them.
Three houses share our drive, the other two really good neighbours but one house is for sale. The other two of us, who own the land around between us (the for sale one has just a garden) are crossing our fingers we get more good neighbours but I did drive in the other day to find one viewer driving towards me down the single track drive. There is a pullin where the field gates are, but she decided, although it was obviously impossible, to try to turn her huge, shiny, black, tinted window Mercedes XC vehicle in the drive where it was instead of just pulling in to the side to let me pass...... I just waited until she'd sorted herself out to see a very yummy blonde mummy peering over the wheel. I'm not sure what she'd have made of the current very noisy horse sex going on around! I just hoped she didn't like the house.
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Post by highlanderlass on Jul 22, 2014 14:28:00 GMT
Well just as well they don't live in my village as cattle and sheep have free roaming rights in the village grazings. There is every kind of crap on the road and it's pretty hard to dodge, cows back ends never seem to stop, and after walking the dogs it's always a bath for them as they love to roll. But to be honest I wouldn't live anywhere else, the freedom the kids had growing up was worth it and having my ponies on the door step is just the best thing. My children have grown up knowing livestock inside out, their wee hands came in handy at difficult lambings.
When we had the ponies in town my daughter had the Police phoned on her for not picking up crap. Police were great and said it would be more of a risk for her to get off and pick it up. They stated it was organic waste and there was no harm and it would soon disintegrate.
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Post by Louise Dixon on Jul 23, 2014 20:20:13 GMT
I do get off and kick it into the side/ditch/whatever if it was across someone's driveway or similar, but not on the road, as said already too dangerous. But if one of my ponies poos on our farm road, I do go out and shovel it up - it smells and looks messy - so I can kind of understand some of the thoughts. Maybe I am just some sort of clean freak - if we get mud on the road from a tractor, we would always sweep that up, we have a special brush that fits the back of a tractor with a collection box for the mud.
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Post by ruftytuftyrider on Jul 23, 2014 23:23:17 GMT
As a baby my grandfather would push me round the country lanes with a bucket and shovel underneath to collect manure.
When I shared a horse we used to hack out and one lady did moan if horses pooped outside her home but luckily her neighbour always rushed out with a bucket to collect it.
I had a conversation in the local paper with a cyclist who when explained about the practicality, safety etc totally saw it from my point of view.
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Post by kareen on Jul 24, 2014 5:54:47 GMT
Oh wow, I had thought this to be a German specialty. Along with horse-taxes and all that nonsense... I'm appalled it's coming to that in the UK too Definitely a sign of degeneration. I do see the point not to leave poo in someone's driveway but normally that is easily managed by getting the horse off of the street or kicking it on the few extra meters or if nothing else works yes get off and kick it aside. One should point out to these people there's cash to be made by collecting it and selling it to gardeners.
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Post by robrocks on Jul 24, 2014 8:45:01 GMT
My neighbour(who has horses but doesn't ride) said I was making a mess in the village with my horse and I should pick up his poo. I later drove back and picked up the two offending poos, shuffled them into a poly bag, put them in my car and drove home. The next day I told her what I'd done but said I wouldn't be doing it again as it was just plain ridiculous!! Me driving around picking up poo after a rare hack is really helping the environment.
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Post by halfpass on Jul 24, 2014 21:26:09 GMT
bag it up and call it Biodegradableorganicmatter and sell it at twenty pounds a bag, the non country folk will rip your arms off in the rush to take it off your hands. lol.
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Post by kateanne0 on Jul 25, 2014 9:05:48 GMT
bag it up and call it Biodegradableorganicmatter and sell it at twenty pounds a bag, the non country folk will rip your arms off in the rush to take it off your hands. lol. How True!! The road to our land was a dead end but carried on into a single track public pathway to our fields and beyond. The pathway was used by walkers and cyclists so we always picked the droppings up on the pathway. If the poo was outside our next door neighbours gateway we also picked that up. When we parked the horsebox up to load or unload (outside our neighbours front doors), we always swept up the bits of hay and shavings and any droppings. We had lovely neighbours and never a cross word. It is totally stupid to expect riders to poo pick on roads, it is unsafe for rider, horse and motorists and would cause too many accidents. There aren't many riders that would deliberately ride in the middle of the road, so any droppings should naturally fall by the wayside out of the way of most motorbikes and cyclists. A bit more tolerance is needed
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Post by sarahk on Jul 25, 2014 12:19:57 GMT
Gone are the days when people would fight for it to put on their gardens. We have a grumpy idiot that gives us abuse we just ignore him.
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Post by brt on Jul 26, 2014 4:18:29 GMT
Good lord ! I have 250 cows go past my house every day twice a day ! The mess they make is 1000 times worse than a random horse poo ! Nobody would dream of telling the farmer to clear it up !!
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