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Post by jjj123 on Sept 1, 2014 20:07:28 GMT
hi need some advice please.
14.3 19 year old mare not been wormed for approximately a year. i have just taken her on and wondered which wormer everyone would suggest for her as i find it all a bit confusing and dont want to get it wrong. thanks for your help
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Post by 19simeon56 on Sept 1, 2014 21:36:43 GMT
Unless she looks wormy why not get an egg count done first then decide which,if any, wormer to use
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Post by robrocks on Sept 2, 2014 17:03:57 GMT
Worm counts will NOT tell you encysted red worm, the silent killer or tape worm therefore on a horse which has had no worming programme assume the worst. Start gently with a five day panacur. Two weeks later follow with an equest pramox. Give pro and pre biotics to help the gut. I hate over worming but I equally disagree with turning a blind eye to the existence of encysted red worn and tape worm by saying my horses egg count was clear.
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Post by LucyHebditch on Sept 2, 2014 17:29:30 GMT
2nd robrocks! That's exactly what we do with all our rescues... Then we worm count and treat them for encysted redworm once a year
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Post by robrocks on Sept 2, 2014 21:02:08 GMT
2nd robrocks! That's exactly what we do with all our rescues... Then we worm count and treat them for encysted redworm once a year Exactly! I'm sick fed up of people doing worm counts but not treating the unseen/unknown...dangerous!!!
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Post by waspblue on Sept 2, 2014 22:20:36 GMT
Yeah, totally agree with robrocks. You can now get saliva tests done for tapeworm antibodies too.
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Post by rafferty on Sept 9, 2014 12:20:14 GMT
I would suggest that you get some advice from either Westgate labs or Intelligent worming, either of these will offer professional advice on the best programme for your mare. Even though she hasn't been wormed for a year doesn't necessarily mean that she has a worm burden it would depend on a whole range of other factors such as where/how she's been kept previously, etc. My advice is consult the professionals who will construct an appropriate individual programme for your horse.
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Post by lancslass on Sept 16, 2014 9:23:39 GMT
I would suggest that you get some advice from either Westgate labs or Intelligent worming, either of these will offer professional advice on the best programme for your mare. Even though she hasn't been wormed for a year doesn't necessarily mean that she has a worm burden it would depend on a whole range of other factors such as where/how she's been kept previously, etc. My advice is consult the professionals who will construct an appropriate individual programme for your horse. This...^^ I'll be worming with Equitape fairly soon and then following on with Equest in December time..
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Post by bethany33 on Oct 2, 2014 20:56:57 GMT
If you read any information on worming control you will learn that the time to treat for tape worm is end of the year & spring therefore if you want to cover encysted red worm too Pramox is the one to use at these times. Equest is fine for during the summer months- if necessary when you may decide to take a worm count. Equest & Pramox are the only wormers -or they were that horses do not develop a resistance to so you can keep using them.The only problem with them is the damage they do to the ground. To my knowledge there are only 3 wormers on the market that cover the dangerous encysted red worm Pramox Equest & Panacur Guard. Also I understand that all horses carry a worm burden of varying degrees & that all we can do is control that burden.
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Post by Louise Dixon on Oct 3, 2014 7:39:25 GMT
Worm counts will NOT tell you encysted red worm, the silent killer or tape worm therefore on a horse which has had no worming programme assume the worst. Start gently with a five day panacur. Two weeks later follow with an equest pramox. Give pro and pre biotics to help the gut. I hate over worming but I equally disagree with turning a blind eye to the existence of encysted red worn and tape worm by saying my horses egg count was clear. This is what I would do, but I would also just include a FEC a fortnight after the Panacur, just to check you don't have a resistance problem - if you do, the Pramox will deal with it anyway, but it is useful to know as resistance to Fenbendazole is pretty widespread - we can't use it here since I fell foul of this and bought in a pony with a resistant worm burden, wormed her with 5 day Panacur and did not do a resistance test before turning her out with my other ponies - when they all were tested 8 weeks later, I had my first positive counts for years, with several ponies having worm eggs seen, a very expensive mistake which I am still trying to get on top of. Westgate Labs are always super for advice and very quick worm counts done with the most accurate and up to date methods at a really good price (I don't work for them, just a very happy customer!) and they have no allegiance to any company as they don't sell any products, so I would recommend ringing them if you have any doubts.
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Post by sarahp on Oct 11, 2014 10:10:05 GMT
I've been advised not to use the bendazoles here, not through personal history but because of the huge amount of resistance to it generally. I do though use the 5-day Panacur (on vet advice) as it will of course get rid of any non-resistant encysted worms and is very much gentler on the system which could be a consideration in some cases.
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