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Post by 5874julie on Sept 29, 2014 23:18:38 GMT
I wondered if any HGers might know the answer to this one. The HOYS worker qualifiers were transferred from Devon County to the Monday of the New Forest Show. However, even though I was entered at Devon County, I only found out about this transfer after the New Forest Show had taken place. I appreciate that I drift through life in a bit of a haze and am not the most switched on person on the planet, but I was quite upset as we get to very few qualifiers and we would certainly have made the journey to compete. I wondered what the protocol was - how are competitors supposed to find out about a transfer like this? I would have thought they should have notified all the Devon County entries by email at least to let them know - it is quick and it is free - but I received nothing. So is it my bad - should I have been checking regularly online somewhere just in case they rescheduled? Sometimes i feel like showing is made up of two groups - one containing all the people on the inside track, and the other containing just me, who hasn't a clue what's going on half the time.
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Post by Dipsy on Sept 30, 2014 5:54:50 GMT
Coming from the shows side, and also one that involved a cancellation this year. The show itself doesn't get involved with the transfer of the qualifiers, that's the societies that sort it out, so grandstand media would have handled this with new forest. So then new forest would have made the announcement
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Post by Philippa on Sept 30, 2014 6:46:42 GMT
I was entered at the show cgreen mentions above. In one of the RIHS qualifiers which was cancelled and rescheduled. To be honest there was lots of posts on here but I also kept an eye on the BSPS website and they were exceptionally quick off the mark to re allocate the qualifiers.
I'm sure, and correct me if I'm wrong that a lot of the qualifiers which were rescheduled were allocated to shows already holding qualifiers and it was the number of places that qualified which changed from 1 to 2,
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Post by janetbushell on Sept 30, 2014 7:38:40 GMT
Cancellations are a nightmare for any show.
In my personal view from reading you post you were informed that Devon had been cancelled. As cgreen76 says - the qualifiers would be reallocated by the governing body & so Devon would not necessarily have this information.
The newly reallocated show would also not have any Devon competitors details, nor would the governing society and so in my opinion it would really be down to the competitor (in this case yourself) to find out where they were being reheld.
It is always a very difficult time for any committee, and the wesbsites, social media etc play the main part in spreading any news concerning these type of sudden changes. Perhaps Devon could have emailed where the information could be found, but again they may not have known this.
This is all part of the learning curve of showing, and as it has happened to you once I am sure you will be more informed for this type of event if it should sadly be necessary again.
The main thing to realise is that qualifiers for HOYS, RIHS & Olympia have a "set" number, so will always be reallocated to keep that same number, whether it be by transferring to another show or by adding an extra qualifying place to an existing qualifier. How quickly they have to be reallocated & where to is very often governed by the time scale, suitability of shows/venues & location
Best of luck with your future competing
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Post by 5874julie on Sept 30, 2014 20:38:06 GMT
I was entered at the show cgreen mentions above. In one of the RIHS qualifiers which was cancelled and rescheduled. To be honest there was lots of posts on here but I also kept an eye on the BSPS website and they were exceptionally quick off the mark to re allocate the qualifiers. I'm sure, and correct me if I'm wrong that a lot of the qualifiers which were rescheduled were allocated to shows already holding qualifiers and it was the number of places that qualified which changed from 1 to 2, this particular reschedule involved classes that are not normally held at the new forest, in fact they started the show a day early to accommodate them. thanks for the replies, i will know to keep an eye out next time
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Post by mollymalone on Sept 30, 2014 20:41:13 GMT
I have to agree that I didn't think it was well publicised that the New Forest was holding additional workers on the day before the main show - they took the Cuddy qualifier which was well communicated but that was folded in to the already scheduled classes. The NF didn't have plaited ponies hoys workers and then got them after their schedules were done.
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Post by harrythepig on Oct 1, 2014 7:10:39 GMT
Just to put another side. One of my friends is a key organiser at NF and asked me to email her so should could report back at her post NF meeting. She was appalled at how low competitor numbers were as they had been promised that everyone who had originally entered Devon would know of the transfer and arrive to compete. The actual numbers of those who arrived on the Monday were very low. In one height section less than 5! As someone who travelled 300 miles to attend a qualifier but due to exams were not able to enter Devon, we were very sad to hear that one was held which was literally on our door step took place with such little advertising. We only got the heads up that the class was happening from the attending vet the week before but after trawling the Internet and the BSPS site couldn't find anything so believed the vet had got it wrong. To this day I don't know where it was advertised and feel for everyone concerned.
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Post by 5874julie on Oct 2, 2014 20:30:03 GMT
that's interesting harry the pig! it was the same for us, we go to very few qualifiers, just those within a reasonable distance, we would have loved to come to New Forest and it is a shame to hear that the show felt they had lost out as numbers were so low, especially given that they laid on an extra day to run them with all the attendant costs. I may take this up with Grandstand Media - not a complaint as such just to try and remedy it for next time.
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Post by volatis on Oct 3, 2014 12:36:54 GMT
We only got the heads up that the class was happening from the attending vet the week before but after trawling the Internet and the BSPS site couldn't find anything so believed the vet had got it wrong. To this day I don't know where it was advertised and feel for everyone concerned. The change of qualifier wouldn't be on the BSPS site as nothing to do with them. unfortunately it was a very late switch from Devon to New Forest. The New Forest was the closest show that could be found who could hold HOYS Qs at such short notice, and although it was publicised on social media there was no way Devon could be expected to contact all competitors and Grandstand media didn't have a list of competitors in the WHP classes so they couldn't contact them either. IF (and I really hope not) a show has to cancel next year we can look at other ways of letting competitors know. When Yorkshire Sport horse cancelled and their hunter qualifiers went to Area 4 they had really good numbers so the competitors definitely noticed those Qs had been reallocated.
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Post by volatis on Oct 3, 2014 14:33:07 GMT
But it was Devon county that had the entries not any society?
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Post by harrythepig on Oct 3, 2014 22:23:28 GMT
now out of class so it's unlikely we will be doing WHP classes next year unless the rider upper age range is increased. Some a shame that we missed out at our only local show. Which social media? I'd love to know where I should look in future
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Post by Philippa on Oct 4, 2014 3:23:44 GMT
now out of class so it's unlikely we will be doing WHP classes next year unless the rider upper age range is increased. Some a shame that we missed out at our only local show. Which social media? I'd love to know where I should look in future I must say that this is the only 'social media' type site I go on. I don't do FB and think people just rely on it far too much and expect others to do the same!!! Sorry that's another argument. The first place I look is the shows website then the governing body website. Hopefully one will put something on sharpish. When hambleton cancelled cgreen was exceptionally quick off the mark to let people know, it was on their website virtually straight away.
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Post by Dipsy on Oct 4, 2014 7:10:38 GMT
now out of class so it's unlikely we will be doing WHP classes next year unless the rider upper age range is increased. Some a shame that we missed out at our only local show. Which social media? I'd love to know where I should look in future I must say that this is the only 'social media' type site I go on. I don't do FB and think people just rely on it far too much and expect others to do the same!!! Sorry that's another argument. The first place I look is the shows website then the governing body website. Hopefully one will put something on sharpish. When hambleton cancelled cgreen was exceptionally quick off the mark to let people know, it was on their website virtually straight away. Thanks phillipa!! The first places I updated was Facebook, horse gossip and our website. Luckily we had a very very understanding guy who managed our website at that point as I think that most people wouldn't have appreciated a phone call at 6:15am with a very frantic woman on the phone!
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Post by Philippa on Oct 4, 2014 7:25:12 GMT
Lol I got a phone call too at about 0730. Great job done by you & the team.
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Post by Dipsy on Oct 4, 2014 7:43:44 GMT
Ah the lovely 4hrs of trying to phone everyone!! Couldn't have done that without my hubby and our friend!
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