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Post by dizzydora on Oct 16, 2014 8:35:55 GMT
Hi everyone, saw this morning on FB a post saying that the owner of the GG Centre at Raskelf shot a liveries horse and dumped it over her garden hedge because she owed £30 livery! Didn't believe what I was reading at first but then in amongst the comments the poor girl had put pictures of the said horse after it had suffered the horrendous ordeal and was lying dead on her garden and she only had the horse on loan as well!!!
It seems that the owner of the GG centre according to comments on there has done this before a few years back and that he got away with it, as well as there being some horrific story about his dogs as well.
The RSCPA use the place as a rehoming centre as well but we all know what the RSPCA are like and will no doubt continue to use it even though they are lining the pockets of this vile man.
RIP poor horse and lets hope this man gets his comeuppance!!
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Post by lisadundee on Oct 16, 2014 9:00:36 GMT
The guy clearly has mental issues! I can not understand anyone's logic who continues to livery there after today!
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Post by dizzydora on Oct 16, 2014 9:20:33 GMT
He has loads of dogs up there and apparently he's let them all run loose so that no one can get onto the yard to remove their horses. I really hope something gets done about it because those are not actions of a sane person.
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Post by lisadundee on Oct 16, 2014 9:26:59 GMT
I hope the surrounding livery yards also do their best to try temporarily/ permanently accommodate any liveries desperate to move their horses Asap!
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Post by Karen, garrettponies on Oct 16, 2014 9:30:52 GMT
It has shocked this area to the core. The farrier has posted that he won't go there on point of principal, liveries have to contact him to sort their requirements out.
To avoid any speculation on what is happening with the rescue centre, my friendruns the rehab yard there for the rescue centre, I'll find out. There are many horses there, would not be an easy task to move them all. As far as I know it's not all RSPCA.
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Post by dizzydora on Oct 16, 2014 9:31:57 GMT
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Post by Karen, garrettponies on Oct 16, 2014 9:32:38 GMT
Yes Lisa, loads of yards are offering accommodation for those wishing to move. I know I wouldn't want to stay there if I were them.
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Post by judyh on Oct 16, 2014 9:34:14 GMT
I am not a livery yard but have offered help. I live near there and know the owner has a terrible temper. The facilities are superb and we used it before it was fully open.. My main worry was the main gates always open, don't know how they got away with it. There is now much more to worry about.
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Post by aura on Oct 16, 2014 9:38:19 GMT
I hope she takes him to court and he is seen behind bars
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Post by Carrots&Mints on Oct 16, 2014 9:38:41 GMT
Thoughts are with the lady whos horse it was, hopefully everyone can get their horses of quick!! What a disgusting vile man!!!!
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Post by topsy14 on Oct 16, 2014 10:18:43 GMT
That really is disgusting my thoughts are with poor owners and loaners of the horse RIP! My thoughts are does this man have a firearms licence? If so I think this should be seriously reconsidered as he is obviously unhinged!! If he does not then at least they have something to get him on!!
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Post by Dipsy on Oct 16, 2014 10:26:20 GMT
The gun is rumored to be a cattle gun not an actual fire arms gun, which is why he probably has it.
I've seen postings up about people helping their friends to move from the GG centre. We will definitely will NEVER be setting foot on the place again, I wouldn't want this guy to get a penny of my money....
So sad that a horse has been killed over a £30 debt!
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Post by Philippa on Oct 16, 2014 11:32:58 GMT
I know someone who liveries there. I believe she has posted on FB that there are 2 sides to story and she knows both.
Not the best course of action to recoup a debt. It's horrendous behaviour
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Post by Dipsy on Oct 16, 2014 12:12:27 GMT
I know someone who liveries there. I believe she has posted on FB that there are 2 sides to story and she knows both. Not the best course of action to recoup a debt. It's horrendous behaviour Its coming out on faceback that there are 2 different versions of this story, but its still no excuse of the poor innocent horse being shot and dumped that way! Fully agree Philippa that this is horrendous behavior on behalf of the yard owner. Think most people I know will no longer use their facilities there now, so whatever the motivate was behind the yard owners thinking, it has back fired BIG style, lets hope this bankrupts him!
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Post by dizzydora on Oct 16, 2014 12:33:55 GMT
Completely agree with you guys, there re 2 sides to every story and to do this to a poor innocent animal is just not excusable like you say. I have read the various posts on FB so have seen what else is being said but at the end of the day there is a horse that has been abused and shot and dumped in a garden and no one in their right mind would do a thing like this. Lets hope the police do something about it this time. The why's and what for's are no excuse for it.
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Post by topsy14 on Oct 16, 2014 12:43:15 GMT
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Post by aura on Oct 16, 2014 13:33:46 GMT
Regardless of if the owner owed money or not it gives the livery owner no right to put the horse to sleep.
He should of refused access to the owner or teather it to the owner's yard which he said he would do or pass it over to the rspca.
No excuses for killing the horse
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Post by cronkmooar on Oct 16, 2014 13:40:54 GMT
The horse was on loan so THE OWNER did not owe anything - but has now lost her horse.
Frankly it does not matter if £3, £30 or £300 was owed to a livery yard, shooting a horse and dumping it in someone's garden is unacceptable.
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Post by thatboythatgirl on Oct 16, 2014 14:35:48 GMT
If you read that thread on HHO someone says that apparently its a clause in the contract "If you owe any money they shoot the horse and deliver it to you" Why you'd go to a livery yard with that claus in the contract is beyond me.
As much as there has been various things said for both side of this its pretty barbaric way to deal with it as the horse was completly innocent
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Post by Dipsy on Oct 16, 2014 14:55:21 GMT
I certainly would not sign a contract to that effect, there again I wouldn't put my horses lives in danger for a mere £30 !!
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Post by maxandpaddy on Oct 16, 2014 15:54:35 GMT
I'm in shock, cant believe someone would do this and on our doorstep !
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Post by smalley on Oct 16, 2014 17:03:22 GMT
I read about this this morning and was shocked, how anyone could do that is horrific, there is absolutely NO reason to shoot a horse, it's not their fault!!
Definitely will not be going to use their facilities again, doubt the GG centre is going to get any business at all now..
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Post by kirky on Oct 16, 2014 19:32:41 GMT
Absolutely disgusting regardless of "two sides to the story" no one in their right might should take it out of an innocent horse, this guy must be an absolute nutter, to have that in a contract clearly shows that this is not normal, but again who on earth would agree to sign something like that? I hope that all his current liveries move and that no one uses his facilities again as the only way to show these people, if that's what you can call them, is to stop giving them money because that's the only thing that matters to them, sick. And as far as gun laws go if it's a cattle gun and can kill a horse/cow then surely it can kill a human. This sickens me to the core; poor, poor horse.
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Post by dis on Oct 16, 2014 21:35:29 GMT
Terrible. poor horse and what a dreadful time for her owner.... if the yo wanted rid of the horse for any reason why didnt they lead the poor mare to the loaners garden?! Yes there are 2 sides to a story but to shoot a healthy 7 yo horse who had been at the yard a few weeks because the loaner owed thirty quid and hadnt put a rug on it, is just beyond belief.
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Post by nj on Oct 16, 2014 21:41:13 GMT
What a sick and barbaric thing to do to any animal, If this is the kind of contract you write that the animals will be shot if livery not paid it's beyond me why anyone would livery there in the first place!!! The things people will do for livery monies are getting out of hand, they must be pretty desperate for money £30!!! Sick sick man, and regardless if there were two sides to a story, that poor horse had no sides and had no option and was killed barbarically
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Post by welshie2 on Oct 17, 2014 6:39:18 GMT
There are always two sides to every story... But to actually kill a horse and dump it in her garden is just " sick" I read that apparently it was messing around in the lorry as they were trying to load it and he feared it would hurt someone or itself, but he somehow managed to get close enough to make a clean shot to the head to kill the poor thing.. What an absolute sick lying b*astard... I will never ever set foot in the place again, if I had a horse there it would be moved immediately, and I hope no one in their right mind would go there again... What a total nutter he is...
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Post by Philippa on Oct 17, 2014 6:56:32 GMT
I wasn't condoning anyone's behaviour when I said there are 2 sides to every story as obviously what has happened is really a step too far. There are a lot of speculation stories out there. I'm aware of a different version of events, again, not condoning them at all and it doesn't take away the fact that the horse was shot and dumped in the poor girls garden.
I think it is a despicable act and someone should be taken to task over it, this is barbaric.
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Post by dis on Oct 17, 2014 7:26:57 GMT
the horse was on loan too cant imagine how the owner feels hearing her horse was killed over something as stupid as this... hope the centre goes bust, why anyone would livery there now if the yo thinks that was the best way to deal with things?!even if the girl owed 3k you dont think shooting the horse will help?! I mean selling it at auction would make more sense?
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Post by kirky on Oct 17, 2014 12:40:38 GMT
There is a facebook page CLOSE DOWN GG CENTRE OFFICIAL for anyone wishing to join.
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Post by titch on Oct 17, 2014 13:02:35 GMT
Poor horse xx rip so did not deserve this and imo is nobodies decision apart from the owner to have their horse put to sleep. I can not believe this is written in the contract!
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