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Post by frankyboy on Feb 7, 2015 22:45:01 GMT
My feed merchant tells me the best way to feed linseed is in its raw state ie in a brown seed form .
Is this correct ,can it be of any benefit to laminitics ,
What is the best linseed to feed .
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Post by sarahp on Feb 8, 2015 7:10:13 GMT
Absolutely raw in the whole seed form it contains a toxin so does need treating. It used to be boiled up for horses, a messy smelly process, but nowadays you can buy it micronised instead, much more civilised! The micronising process renders if safe, and it can be bought in sackfuls ready to add to the feed. I buy mine over the internet from Charnwood Milling who are always very efficient with quick delivery, I haven't seen it elsewhere, and my feed merchants don't stock it. In this form it's safe for laminitics, and a good source of protein, oil and fibre.
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Post by sjw87 on Feb 8, 2015 8:44:17 GMT
Ditto sarahp.
However, I do know a feed wholesaler who does now stock the charnwood linseed (they list it as linseed meal) - they supply a lot of independent feed stores as well as Wynnstay and Decathlon so it's worth asking your local feed store to double check if they can get it as it works out cheaper than getting it posted direct from Charnwood.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 8, 2015 9:47:14 GMT
Thanks for that, I'll talk to them but it may depend on how big a quantity they have to buy in at once.
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Post by babybem on Feb 8, 2015 10:50:17 GMT
Has anyone had any negative effects from feeding linseed? I have always used it, but my partner thinks it has made his horses hot headed (he has recently been feeding them Sugar beet!) and has spoken to the vet who tells him sugar beet is that over processed now it hardly contains any sugar!? Confused!!
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Post by sarahp on Feb 8, 2015 13:01:03 GMT
No, mine are fine on it. Not riddens admittedly, but still quiet, well mannered and not off their heads. Is the % sugar in your sugarbeet noted on the white label in the bag seam, it might be? I always feed unmolassed sugarbeet anyway.
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Post by richvale on Feb 8, 2015 13:23:50 GMT
I feed mine on micronised linseed and their coats are amazing and great for putting in condition. I get mine from my local feed merchant and its Charnwood for £20.99 for 20 kgs or you can get it off ebay delivered for around £25.00.
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Post by lils on Feb 9, 2015 9:36:34 GMT
Absolutely raw in the whole seed form it contains a toxin so does need treating. It used to be boiled up for horses, a messy smelly process, but nowadays you can buy it micronised instead, much more civilised! The micronising process renders if safe, and it can be bought in sackfuls ready to add to the feed. I buy mine over the internet from Charnwood Milling who are always very efficient with quick delivery, I haven't seen it elsewhere, and my feed merchants don't stock it. In this form it's safe for laminitics, and a good source of protein, oil and fibre. Sarah if your ever Canterbury way we stock charnwood linseed at chilham feeds ?
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Post by Pepper on Feb 9, 2015 10:18:20 GMT
Charnwood is local to me... Just a note FYI everyone, if you buy from Charnwood and buy 10+ bags you get it massively discounted - trade I believe. On an average four to six week feed bill of about £300-50, I have saved £60 by going direct to Charnwood instead - some brands (dengie) and some own brand (racehorse and veteran mix)
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Post by sarahp on Feb 9, 2015 11:34:26 GMT
Canterbury too far, and 10 bags at a time too much! I've only got two As on it, soon to be down to one.
But many thanks for the suggestions.
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Post by catkin on Feb 9, 2015 16:33:16 GMT
Sarahp - as a matter of interest, how much do you feed the section a's?
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Post by sarahp on Feb 9, 2015 16:44:39 GMT
Two washing powder scoops in each feed, two feeds a day. Very scientific! I usually have a session of weighing whatever measures I use worth of feed and work back from the recommended amounts to find out how many measures to use in the feeds but don't think I have for linseed, just shoved it in! They don't give recommended amounts anyway, and it seems to work OK for the ponies. Who needs commercial measures, usually too big for As anyway. Washing powder ones for linseed and balancer, Chudleys dog food (free at some point) for alfabeet and 4 pt plastic milk bottles for water to soak it. If it helps the colt foal has half a measure of balancer and the 3yo colt about 3/4 in each feed.
This may sound frivolous but isn't really, I'm very careful about their diets, I just use whatever comes to hand as measures. Old saucepans in the past too when I fed Ds.
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Post by frankyboy on Feb 9, 2015 18:04:37 GMT
now confused ,is lindseed oil just as good to give me the same results . SARAHP what washing powder scoop ,,,,,,the small one !!!!!!! AND what about laminitics is it safe to feed ?
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Post by sarahp on Feb 9, 2015 18:38:20 GMT
Fine for laminitics, pass on scoop size, just the one that comes in big boxes, I wouldn't know if larger or smaller ones are available in other sizes or brands. I suggest you ask the vendor. I'm sure linseed oil would do oil wise, the micronised is the whole seed so supplies protein and fibre as well.
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Post by halfpass on Feb 9, 2015 22:15:51 GMT
I have used both methods, I still boil my own but if I'm away at a show I find it easier to use the micronized (thanks SarahP for putting me on to it)I feed 3days with it then two days off, if they start to look a bit to well I cut the amount down that I feed.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 10, 2015 17:01:57 GMT
I have just today weighed the amount of micronised linseed my As have per meal as 275 gms or 10 oz, just so that you all know! I'm not a nutritionist, this is just what they have which seems to work OK.
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Post by todster on Feb 16, 2015 11:10:56 GMT
Absolutely raw in the whole seed form it contains a toxin so does need treating. It used to be boiled up for horses, a messy smelly process, but nowadays you can buy it micronised instead, much more civilised! The micronising process renders if safe, and it can be bought in sackfuls ready to add to the feed. I buy mine over the internet from Charnwood Milling who are always very efficient with quick delivery, I haven't seen it elsewhere, and my feed merchants don't stock it. In this form it's safe for laminitics, and a good source of protein, oil and fibre. Sarah if your ever Canterbury way we stock charnwood linseed at chilham feeds ?
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Post by sarahp on Feb 16, 2015 12:31:39 GMT
Thanks, but as I said above Canterbury is miles too far away for me to go to collect it, I live in SW Surrey.
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Post by Philippa on Feb 16, 2015 15:07:06 GMT
Studies were done on laminitis ponies and those who were fed linseed recovered much quicker and better than those not. Allegedly.
Anyway mine are on it.
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Post by frankyboy on Feb 16, 2015 19:10:05 GMT
oh that would be wonderful for 1 of my dearly loved ponies who has recovered several months ago from laminitis which was grass related .He is looking and feeling too good !!!!!!!
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Post by frankyboy on Feb 16, 2015 19:10:47 GMT
meant to say Not Grass Related ,took us all by shock but recovered now x
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Post by sarahp on Feb 16, 2015 22:02:01 GMT
Not heard that one Philippa, interesting. Although often when they have lami you are trying to reduce their weight as part of the treatment so you'd have to be careful re quantity or they will get fatter instead.
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Post by benji2008 on Mar 1, 2015 15:44:57 GMT
Have a look on Simple System website for your linseed.Loads of info and they also deliver
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Post by foxylady on Apr 4, 2015 14:32:28 GMT
I feed the oil as I don't want the fibre or protein content too high as he has enough in his feed already but I wanted the benefits it offers for his skin and so far this has been fine . I would be careful feeding to a pony who has had laminitis I can see the attraction but would be very careful better with a good balancer and low sugar forage to be on the safe side I don't feed it to my ems pony.
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