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Post by flair1 on Apr 9, 2015 12:29:33 GMT
Olibell stud, breeding riding ponies and coloureds for quality and temperament.
Would really appreciate everyones views, how many off you would or have had a 5 stage vetting done on a tiny tots lead rein pony prior to purchase. baring in mind that to get through a 5 stage vetting the pony needs to be event fit and needs to be machanically able to cope with rigorous work.. Hummmm interesting one thanks everyone in advance x
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Post by livtom2 on Apr 9, 2015 12:39:58 GMT
Unless its needed for insurance I tend not to bother, I bought a pony that passed a 5 stage vetting and 3 weeks later it was lame and xrays confirmed it had bone/joint damage in his fetlock. I have also recently sold a pony that had a 5 stage vetting and was shocked to learn that they now get lunged on hard stoney ground! The pony passed but i didnt feel that part of the vetting was needed. x
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Post by pipandflo on Apr 9, 2015 19:06:27 GMT
We had a five stage on our new pony as he's going to work hard and I wanted to have the soundest pony I could, because he was expensive he is insured and the choice of policy was much greater with a gold star vetting and I managed to negotiate a decent discount on the policy. Agreed however that I never vetted the little ponies
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smalley
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Post by smalley on Apr 9, 2015 19:29:25 GMT
I wouldn't think a tiny tots pony would need a 5 stage, you could always get your vet to check over the pony for anything that might cause a problem.
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Post by mcnaughty on Apr 12, 2015 15:37:53 GMT
I usually feel it depends on the price of the pony and the age. I did not have a 2yo welsh a vetted at all but had a 5 star on the latest one as he was a bit pricey!
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Post by orangetails on Apr 28, 2015 13:52:07 GMT
It doesn't matter what level of work the pony is in for a vetting! I think the only type of horse you'd struggle to do a 5* with is an unbacked/lightly handled youngster, as there is quite a lot of handling, as well as trotting up, lunging etc for a 5*. Most youngsters would be okay with a 2* (basic health check, eyes, lungs, trot ups and poss flexions depending on the vet)
The 'work' phase in a 5*, whilst better ridden, can be done on the lunge, it needs to be enough to get the pony breathing hard, so if they're not fit, it will just be a shorter work phase.
I've sold three ponies (as projects, am currently a stay at home mum trying to earn a few pennies lol!) over the last couple of years who have had 5* vettings. They have all included flexions in both of the trot-ups (on concrete yard) lunging on hard (in our case, a hardcore carpark) and soft (sand/rubber arena) The work phase has varied depending on the vet - the most recent one I sold was exceptionally thorough (horse was only going as a happy hack!) she was lunged on both hard and soft in walk and trot, and cantered on the lunge in the school. Then ridden I had to ride for 20mins as if schooling, then canter for [quite a long time] I forget exactly! Then walk off and rest for 20mins before final trot ups and flexions again.
The other two (different vets, but ponies bizarrely going to do more work - sold as PC ponies) weren't asked to canter on the lunge, though I did have to lunge on the hard and the soft as above. Also the work phase was literally tack up, get on, quick walk trot round the school to warm up and then into canter until pony was puffing. Then checked/rested/final trot ups as before.
As to whether you should or not - it's totally personal preference really. I never have when buying, three of the five I have sold have done (the fourth had a 2* vetting) Depends on the value of the pony, what you want the pony for, whether you want to potentially buy a problem (in tots pony case am thinking heartache for child, rather than work-limiting?) Depends though - would you only want it as a LR, or is there a chance you might want the pony to go on and do FR too? In which case maybe worth vetting as could save money in long run.
People spending lots of ££ on competition horses will often get x-rays of hooves/limbs and poss back as part of vetting. My friend recently had a horse vetted - has been a show horse, she wants it for dressage - it vetted fine apart from a past case of lammi, so she is booking to have the feet x-rated to be sure of extent of damage before buying.
With a child's pony, it might be particularly important to have bloods taken (usually they are taken but stored, and only run if there's an issue, to save ££) as might be doped and actually be a little terror! (I'm sure that happens with adults horses too, but children are more vulnerable)
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