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Post by sundance on Jun 10, 2015 20:56:08 GMT
Pony goes sweetly in a loose ring lozenge snaffle.
Is there a problem competing in opens and HOYS classes in this, or must it be a double or Pelham?
Would we mark ourselves out as non professional or novicey? Or would a judge consider us as a winner if way off going and conformation were great?
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Post by bubbles1822 on Jun 10, 2015 21:36:29 GMT
Well... Depends. Some judges won't mind as long as pony is happy and goes like an open pony. However others see it as 'correct' to have 2 reins...
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Post by Wiltshire Man on Jun 11, 2015 6:11:21 GMT
I remember there is a Welsh sec D came 3rd at HOYS final with a wilke snaffle !!
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Post by smalley on Jun 11, 2015 6:31:12 GMT
I usually show a fell in a snaffle. He's done really well with several open wins & championships and we've only ever had a problem once where the judge said we should put him in a pelham but he still did well. I've competed him in HOYS qualifiers in both a pelham and a snaffle and hes had similar marks for both.
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Post by catkin on Jun 11, 2015 7:59:29 GMT
however, if a horse is going correctly in a snaffle, you should be able to make the progression to a double, which is an aid to more 'refined' work. So, as a judge, I would question why the animal 'needs' to be in a snaffle. This applies to opens of course and those novices requiring a snaffle should probaby still be in novice classes, where this is a requirement, anyway. That said, if I had a class where two aminals were there and one went badly in a double and the other well in a snaffle, of course I would go for the snaffled horse.
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Post by louisegelly on Jun 11, 2015 18:45:36 GMT
My friend shows in a snaffle, while in an open class the judge commented on how nice it was to see a pony in a snaffle. Penny Hollings told me a while a go that she has qualified in the past with a pony in a snaffle. Is personally keep him in what he is most happy with.
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Post by 2connies on Jun 16, 2015 19:17:34 GMT
Years ago my daughter qualified a connemara for Olympia in a snaffle but I doubt very much we would see it these days....although I believe the animal should be judged on way of going etc irrespective.
Mind you,I think a pony going sweetly in a nice double bridle probably looks that bit more 'professional' than in a snaffle to many judges.
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Post by sageandonionagain on Jun 26, 2015 20:10:37 GMT
Really? For me a pony going beautifully in a snaffle is a joy and all open horses should be able to be ridden sweetly in a snaffle. By snaffle I mean, well, "snaffle". The wilkie is a snaffle only in name and is a gag bit. With all due respect catkin and with great interest in the answer? What kind of "refinement" is required in a ridden showing class which needs to be achieved using a double? Horses may be ridden at National PSG, Int I, II, GP and GPS in a snaffle. Open showing requires, walk, trot, canter, maybe an extension and a gallop.
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Post by bfe on Jun 27, 2015 3:38:42 GMT
What's the difference between a gallop and extension
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Post by sageandonionagain on Jun 27, 2015 7:49:17 GMT
Gallop is a pace in its own right. Extension is a variation within the pace within walk, trot or canter. Conversely you can "collect" walk, trot canter or have a working and medium transition within these paces. It is all done from the seat and leg and all happily done in a snaffle.
You may feel 'extension' isn't required for showing but you will see an extended trot. You may not see a professional 'collect' a canter in a corner and 'extend' that down a long side to give a favourable impression to the judge where the gallop of the horse is not admirable or the ground is hard and it is preferable not to gallop at all.
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Post by sarahp on Jul 4, 2015 9:35:20 GMT
And some can be difficult to pull up in a show ring if in a full blown gallop!
I always leaned that a canter is a three time pace - which would apply to extended canter as well - whereas a gallop is four time.
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