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Post by welshshowcobs on Jun 22, 2015 11:42:04 GMT
Hoping you can all give me some advice.
We have found 5 acres for sale in the Manchester region with a house 10 yards away within budget. Its greenbelt so we need to know about planning permission, we are looking at getting a menage fitted, plus a small wooden American barn with 6 stables in it. Does anyone have any advice or history, anything that can help us determine whether we buy it or not?
It would be perfect, and we could give our lami pony a fresh start on life, with turnout in winter. It will be all post and rail with electric fencing. We don't mind bending over backwards and painting everything green for the neighbours as unfortunately there are a few.
Can anyone help me?
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Post by nici on Jun 22, 2015 12:30:01 GMT
Any precedence in the area? Other small yards / stables? Check out the planning website - they should have online records of applications accepted and rejected - look and see what's been allowed in the past in the local area. Armed with information about any precedents, go and chat to the local planning officer to see what your chances are of getting what you want.
Good luck!
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Post by chalky284 on Jun 22, 2015 12:36:03 GMT
I would have to say it would depend on which Manchester region. You can pm me if you'd prefer but some are more horsey than others. Have you had a drive round?? To see if there are any other horsey places? My first plan would be to contact the local planning authority and the land registry, only costs a few quid for the title deed. You'll be able to get an idea of covenants and if any planning has ever been applied for from these two sources. Do you know the owner of the land?? Have you asked them if they have any info on it?? Some land near me has a covenant of no horses on it!!!
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Post by mandmgirl0164 on Jun 22, 2015 13:27:31 GMT
You could do with speaking to a planning consultant who specialises in getting the type of planning permission you are thinking of. They will know what will be acceptable to the planning department/what to put where/screening/what not to put in for etc and can save you a lot of money/time in the long run. Unfortunately, I don't live in that area as could have recommended someone if you were in the north east.
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Post by cre8tivekid on Jun 24, 2015 13:08:25 GMT
If you call the local authority planning department they will be able to tell you whether they are likely to give permission on the site, this would require change of use to recreational which is a smaller step than changing to residential so they may be OK with this. They will likely be able to give you an indication informally over the phone.
You can also search the register of applications locally and see if there have been any similar applications which would help understand the type of conditions that they have been imposing.
If the land has any special classifications like AONB, or there are rare plants, trees, animals that will be disturbed you may find things a little more tricky.
If you want lighting on the arena then that will be another issue.
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Post by sageandonionagain on Jun 26, 2015 19:56:13 GMT
I agree with the above. You can ask for pre-application advice which you will pay for but it is fairly nominal. A planning consultant will charge a fortune and the advice will not necessarily be the opinion of the planning officer. Check the previous planning history of this house as well as others in the area.
oops edited to say. Is this land separate from the house? It will be far more difficult to build on land not already married to a house. I would go seek some advice as to whether you could join both so they become one property.
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Post by fellman on Jul 2, 2015 11:29:54 GMT
if the house is so close, put the stables in the back garden if you cant get permission on the land
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Post by fellman on Jul 2, 2015 11:34:53 GMT
meant to say, if American barn is a no go, have the stables on skids, and instead on a concrete yard put down chalk and make a yard area, there is very little they can do as its not a permanent base
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