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Post by danichapel on Jun 23, 2015 9:01:47 GMT
I have always used a leather curb strap in the belief it was kinder, I used it at the weekend with a lip strap and my highland was not all that happy with it, I do not use the lip strap when I school at home I did notice that several ponies in the class had a curb but no lip strap, what are your views please, do not bother with lip strap, use a metal curb and not a leather one, I do think the leather one is rather too wide when held in place by the lip strap
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Post by 5874julie on Jun 23, 2015 12:17:46 GMT
I have always used a leather curb strap in the belief it was kinder, I used it at the weekend with a lip strap and my highland was not all that happy with it, I do not use the lip strap when I school at home I did notice that several ponies in the class had a curb but no lip strap, what are your views please, do not bother with lip strap, use a metal curb and not a leather one, I do think the leather one is rather too wide when held in place by the lip strap Thank you We used to use a leather curb on one of our ponies, same as you we thought it was milder, but one instructor told us he thought they could be quite harsh compared to a properly 'flattened' chain one so we switched back
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Post by bubbles1822 on Jun 23, 2015 12:42:48 GMT
I use a leather curb with some and metal with others, they seem to go better in one or the other.
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Post by Guestless on Jun 23, 2015 13:22:49 GMT
I was once told by a judge that I was cluttering up my pony's head when using a lip strap, so I don't bother with one now. It's only purpose is to stop you losing the curb if it falls off and I think that's unlikely to happen unless the gap on the hooks are quite wide.
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Post by whip lass on Jun 23, 2015 14:32:42 GMT
a lip strap is supposed to stop the curb chain from moving into the wrong position ie sometimes the curb chain gos above the curb groove.
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Post by Guestless on Jun 23, 2015 15:02:56 GMT
a lip strap is supposed to stop the curb chain from moving into the wrong position ie sometimes the curb chain gos above the curb groove. Yes, it can do that too depending how the chain is fitted. It's primary use is still to stop you losing the chain AFAIK though. I certainly respect the judge who suggested I don't use one and I've never had a judge tell me that I SHOULD have one since I stopped using them.
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Post by norwalk on Jun 23, 2015 15:03:44 GMT
Agree whip lass! Lip strap is to keep curb in correct position. It's an added advantage if it helps to stop it being lost, but then traditionally the offside curb hook would be nipped to keep it from coming away anyway! Try different curbs - the leather ones are mild, but elastic ones are milder... The double link metal ones aren't as harsh as the single link metal... Check it's adjusted right - it should come into play when the bit shank is at 45 degrees.
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Post by muggley on Jun 23, 2015 15:06:27 GMT
All of my pelhams/doubles have lip straps. It just looks weird to me without one.
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Post by danichapel on Jun 23, 2015 15:31:04 GMT
Thanks for your thoughts, I know a lip strap is correct, but agree it does make things look cluttered on a pony head, I am going to try a double chain and somewhere amongst a life time of ponies I do have an elastic one !!!??
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Post by sarahp on Jul 4, 2015 9:30:54 GMT
I know I'm old school but I always considered a lip strap to be correct. On the other hand, if judges don't care why should I?
As for curb chains, any of mine ridden in a curb bit seemed to prefer the feel of leather rather than cold hard steel and I always used a leather one, and so loose that a lip strap to hold it in place was desirable anyway. But then they were in curb bits for visual showing purposes anyway rather than actually needing the curb action.
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Post by mandmgirl0164 on Jul 4, 2015 14:19:23 GMT
The lip strap needs to be the correct length/width of leather, so that it doesn't look baggy and untidy.
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Post by sarahp on Jul 4, 2015 14:32:55 GMT
Mine was rolled and not flat, and no longer than necessary, so neither baggy nor untidy! It just completed the picture.
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Post by mandmgirl0164 on Jul 4, 2015 14:37:05 GMT
Rolled looks so much neater - bought ones nearly always too long, used to get saddler to shorten or make from scratch.
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Post by sarahp on Jul 4, 2015 14:44:15 GMT
My "long end" was rolled, and had a very neat loop at the end so I just had to pass the pointed end through the metal loop on the bit and through the loop, and come to think of it I think I did cut the end off and make more holes in it to make it shorter too. A small neat buckle on the other end and bob's your uncle.
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Post by sageandonionagain on Jul 5, 2015 17:43:25 GMT
Lip strap does have a function as above and it is also cosmetically correct. Rather like making sure your loose leather is tucked nicely in your keepers. I suppose it could irritate a pony if fitted incorrectly. Always make sure you ride with the same kit at home as you do at shows for your show prep schooling. Everyday schooling should be in a snaffle bridle.
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Post by bigmama on Jul 5, 2015 18:12:59 GMT
If you want a mild curb, go for an elastic one
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