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Ponies UK
Jul 24, 2015 7:27:40 GMT
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Post by lalalaa on Jul 24, 2015 7:27:40 GMT
Any results
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Post by pipandwill on Jul 24, 2015 9:03:12 GMT
Be interested to know the grand prix 153 and 158 results, and the timberwolf please. Such a shame we decided not to go, but with £35 on the day entry and no chance of any prize money in the classes we would do as they all had kess than 4 catalouged entries, we couldnt justify the cost. Nevertheless, I hope its a successful shoe for puk, good luck all
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Post by ellisp on Jul 24, 2015 11:50:25 GMT
Does anyone know if the water was included in the grand prix whp classes this morning? if so do they have to jump in/out or just go through it? thanks
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Post by samd on Jul 24, 2015 13:10:30 GMT
The water was not in the course this morning but you were allowed to do the water at the end of your round as a practice but not be marked. I think as there were few entries they didn't want to eliminate any at the water. It was good to have the option of doing it though. Extremely dissapointed to win and not get the promised £100 first prize that was on offer. Apparently the rule in the small print was no prize money if less than 4 catalogued entries. So even if there had been lots of late entries you still wouldn't get any prize money. Very bad I think. Especially in this class as it was advertised as a special class with big prize money. They said we can go back on sunday for the £500 grand prix championship. Luckily we are going anyway with other ponies otherwise wouldn't have wanted to spend another £100 in deisel to go just for the championship. You may win it and they then decide not to honour the prize money as not enough turned up for the championship!
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Post by pipandwill on Jul 24, 2015 13:20:47 GMT
The water was not in the course this morning but you were allowed to do the water at the end of your round as a practice but not be marked. I think as there were few entries they didn't want to eliminate any at the water. It was good to have the option of doing it though. Extremely dissapointed to win and not get the promised £100 first prize that was on offer. Apparently the rule in the small print was no prize money if less than 4 catalogued entries. So even if there had been lots of late entries you still wouldn't get any prize money. Very bad I think. Especially in this class as it was advertised as a special class with big prize money. They said we can go back on sunday for the £500 grand prix championship. Luckily we are going anyway with other ponies otherwise wouldn't have wanted to spend another £100 in deisel to go just for the championship. You may win it and they then decide not to honour the prize money as not enough turned up for the championship! This is exactly why we didnt come today, do you know how many jumped the 153 section, after looking at the pre entries, NO prize money will have been awarded in any of the plaited grand prix whp classes...
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Ponies UK
Jul 24, 2015 13:33:23 GMT
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Post by samd on Jul 24, 2015 13:33:23 GMT
There was only one 153. Carnsdale Top Totty. Only two in out 143 secion. Didn't see the 158's. No prize money awarded at all but they must have had the sponsorship money for those classes. They said it's going towards the championship but the money for that must have already been allocated as it was in the schedule as £500 prize money
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Ponies UK
Jul 24, 2015 14:45:06 GMT
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Post by comanchediva on Jul 24, 2015 14:45:06 GMT
I'm not going to this show but reading these posts makes me so angry and disappointed for the people who have made the trip. Shows shouldn't have caveats in the small print regarding prize money. I understand they need to make a profit but surely prize money is an incentive to draw more entries? I'd rather attend a show with small rosettes and some prize money than a show with no prize money and massive rosettes! Sorry, rant over:(
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Post by samd on Jul 24, 2015 15:24:04 GMT
I'm not going to this show but reading these posts makes me so angry and disappointed for the people who have made the trip. Shows shouldn't have caveats in the small print regarding prize money. I understand they need to make a profit but surely prize money is an incentive to draw more entries? I'd rather attend a show with small rosettes and some prize money than a show with no prize money and massive rosettes! Sorry, rant over:( I agree there. The prize money was an incentive for us to go. You don't usually get that sort of prize money in showing and it isn't the competitors fault if there isn't enough entries in the classes. We still had to pay our entry fees.
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Post by mandmgirl0164 on Jul 24, 2015 16:10:42 GMT
It would have been fairer if prize money had been dependent upon entries forward on the day.
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Post by mintyspx on Jul 24, 2015 16:48:54 GMT
Does anyone have the marks for the young riders final large breeds please?
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Post by sparkysunny on Jul 24, 2015 17:36:09 GMT
Does anyone have any results at all, please???
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Ponies UK
Jul 24, 2015 18:01:11 GMT
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Post by bertiebuckle06 on Jul 24, 2015 18:01:11 GMT
What is the lorry parking like after all the rain?
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Ponies UK
Jul 25, 2015 7:17:40 GMT
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Post by Toaster on Jul 25, 2015 7:17:40 GMT
It would have been fairer if prize money had been dependent upon entries forward on the day. I agree with this however with days like yesterday where the weather is bad and you may have entries that don't turn up. Fairer still would be to award prize money based on the total paid entries for the class both pre entered and on the day and regardless of whether they turn up To be fair to PUK though the prize money and the criteria for awarding it were not hidden in small print but were clearly set out on the page showing the show entry fees I hope the weekend goes well for the show, the entry fees put it out of range for most locals (it's been oddly though maybe unofficially promoted on local Facebook pages as if it's a local show) the prize money situation is a gamble, had they awarded it regardless would there be more entries? I do think their potential target market is shifting and needs some research Good luck to everyone competing there this weekend
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Post by kateanne0 on Jul 25, 2015 8:11:04 GMT
Bury Farm is just too far for many competitors. A sign of the times now when competitors have to pick and choose their shows carefully otherwise showing becomes just too expensive. I suppose being just ahead of the RI didn't help boost the entries either
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Post by chipmokey on Jul 25, 2015 9:06:47 GMT
There was one in the 158s. One of the reasons we gave up on PUK was the way they excel at rubbing competitors up the wrong way. A few years ago we came second out of eleven forward in an RI qualifier and they told us we couldn't have any prize money as there were only four pre-entries (one of which was us). I fully understand why shows need to restrict prize money according to entries but this should be total entries particularly as they charge so much extra for late entries. They need to be more competitor friendly to attract more members. So sad to see how this has gone downhill with few entries and no atmosphere compared with the huge entries and electric atmosphere of the summer champs in its heyday at Peterborough.
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Post by samd on Jul 25, 2015 11:38:25 GMT
I don't disagree with not giving out prize money in all the classes if there is not enough entries but the class we did was the Grand Prix WHP. Advertised as £100 first prize and £500 championship. This was a sponsored class so the money was there to give out regardless of how many pre entries. It did not make it clear in this particular class that money would not have been given out if there wasn't enough entries. It looked like a class worth going for as good prize money was an incentive. My daughter was very excited to win it and then felt very let down when she thought she was going home with a good amount of money in her pocket for once and then wasn't given it.
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Post by tangerine on Jul 25, 2015 12:56:08 GMT
Surely a championship will always have the same amount of entries whatever the class number. Sponsors who give for championship prize money wouldn't want to think it just went back in the coffers surely x
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Post by pipandflo on Jul 25, 2015 13:21:31 GMT
Me thinks PUK have shot themselves in the foot again over this, it makes them no friends. It was the highlight of our season getting 3rd in a class of 50+ really meant something. We never went back after pony lamed itself the day after I'd spent £360 entering and they gave no refunds.
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Post by ponynuts on Jul 25, 2015 13:48:20 GMT
would love to have gone but as there was only one class for us it was just too expensive due to membership etc
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Ponies UK
Jul 25, 2015 14:24:26 GMT
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Post by connie on Jul 25, 2015 14:24:26 GMT
Where ever you have a show will be to far for some, Bury farm is within a reasonable travelling distance for many and is not to far off a main motorway. It's a shame that there are not enough entries to warrant a North and South championship so maybe moving it around every few years is the way forward? In the last few years it has been at Newark showground and more recently Stoneleigh.
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Post by honeypot on Jul 25, 2015 14:47:23 GMT
Surely a championship will always have the same amount of entries whatever the class number. Sponsors who give for championship prize money wouldn't want to think it just went back in the coffers surely x If I had sponsored this class I would be very annoyed.
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Ponies UK
Jul 25, 2015 15:25:08 GMT
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Post by bertiebuckle06 on Jul 25, 2015 15:25:08 GMT
We were in a class with 6 catalogued entries but still no sign of prize money? £35 a class plus £8 first aid cover is rather expensive!!
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Post by jacksprat on Jul 25, 2015 17:31:00 GMT
we used to love PUK summer champs and it was a weeks hols as well. super well filled classes, good prize money and fab evening performance every night, not sure where they went wrong but it is sad that they my not survive much longer with poor entries like this
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Post by GaynorStones on Jul 25, 2015 17:54:32 GMT
we used to love PUK summer champs and it was a weeks hols as well. super well filled classes, good prize money and fab evening performance every night, not sure where they went wrong but it is sad that they my not survive much longer with poor entries like this Totally agree. 50odd in a class. To be pulled into front line was brilliant, to win was amazing! So sad when it left Peterborough but understood cost of hiring venues. Got used to Newark but never the same. It was a great week and we looked forward to it all year. We were members for years but not now. Too far for us now and too many championship shows in August. NCPA have listened to competitors and are having a northern championship as well. Perhaps PUK should look into this. I do hope they can continue but with such small entries I fear the worst.
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Post by vgs on Jul 25, 2015 18:07:13 GMT
Afraid had to come home after today - couldn't face staying the night. Horse water brown. No one there at all. Empty rings. Surface whp course no entries. Ponies jumping on a dreadful grass ring with ridiculously huge courses - why not move them to a surface when it was stood empty? No atmosphere whatsoever. Used to love PUK - remember standing 2nd in the Kingsford final in a line of 40+, those days have well and truly gone. I suspect with the loss of the HOYS qualifiers and the prize money PUK is finished.
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Post by lennycrabsticks on Jul 25, 2015 19:01:29 GMT
Just come back from puk The silver ware you cannot touch or put your name on, so it may as well be for cricket, cancelled holiday on the strength of lack of prize money, puk days are numbered? ?
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Post by dancer on Jul 25, 2015 19:05:38 GMT
The clapometer did it for us, never been members or entered any qualifying classes since - it turned the excitement/achievement of reaching a 'top 10' evening performance into a joke, what possessed them to think that was a good idea? Lots of 'evening' pics on Facebook but appears to be no spectators (unless they have been out of shot in every photograph!) - 10/15 years ago you would struggle to get a seat due to the number of people staying to watch.
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Post by lennycrabsticks on Jul 25, 2015 19:51:25 GMT
This is what we think, For all the people who did well yesterday well done. The rain was so bad. With no Hoys Q's No prize money Not being able to keep the cup you win We all have nice memory's of PuK Years ago Maybe if Puk brought back,numbers would no be so low!!
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Ponies UK
Jul 26, 2015 9:03:38 GMT
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Post by lccbf on Jul 26, 2015 9:03:38 GMT
My first time at ponies UK this year. I do feel for them the weather is dire here again this morning.
We were going to leave last night but our class was indoors today and there was an indoor exercise area so we thought we would stay. They have now brought a ring into the exercise area so only a indoor collecting ring for 4 rings available to warm up in if u don't want to get soaked.
They are doing their best and trying to get people inside but now rather than some people getting wet, everyone has to if they want to do more than walk to warm in. They cant please everyone I get that but if I had known this last night I would have left in the dry ! Surely they checked the forecast and made a plan then (as I did).
Very sad and as a new member I dont think ill b joining again next year, communication costs nothing
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Ponies UK
Jul 26, 2015 12:03:56 GMT
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Post by bubbles1822 on Jul 26, 2015 12:03:56 GMT
Had a lovely time at puk and to top it off we won the RI intermediate qualifier this morning with hedgethorpe you can't be serious! He also took 1st reserve in the glyn and greenwood!!
The weather was horrendous and the team did every bring they could. The office staff was helpful and really tried to help out. Fab venue.
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