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Post by applecrumble on Oct 9, 2015 12:42:17 GMT
Int results
1st Laura's Pride 2nd Carnsdale Practical Magic 3rd Carnsdale Beltane Poppy 4th Assisi Gilmo 5th Rob 6th Luidams Girl 7th Belleuve Tomboy 8th Hearts on Fire 9th Wizard XI
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Post by k1994t on Oct 9, 2015 13:06:26 GMT
Any maxi cob news/results?
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Post by applecrumble on Oct 9, 2015 13:07:16 GMT
Any maxi cob news/results? 15:15 they are in
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Post by applecrumble on Oct 9, 2015 14:17:56 GMT
WHP CHAMPION
Freckleton Maximus
RESERVE
Derryglimba Atlantic Storm
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Post by k1994t on Oct 9, 2015 15:08:20 GMT
From Twitter:
Starry Night 1st Hallmark 2nd
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Post by blovell on Oct 9, 2015 15:09:18 GMT
Result of Maxi Cobs
1 Starry Night 2 Hallmark 3 Tank Top 4 benny hill 5 sure will 6 Colebourne 7 country seat 8 miramax 9 the forger
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Post by applecrumble on Oct 9, 2015 15:18:58 GMT
Starry Night retired. Standing ovation and not a dry eye in the room. Will be in the supreme. What a horse!!!
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Post by lastchance on Oct 9, 2015 16:37:45 GMT
When you consider m&m 133cm have to jump max heigh 85cm and plaited 133 max heigh 1m and then 143cm m &m jump max 95cm compared to 143 plaited that jump 1.10m max. Not then forgetting that m&ms can be piloted by adults whereas these are just children. Is it any wonder that the plaited struggle more same size animals jumping bigger tracks in the same space, how the intermediates jump 1.25 in that arena is beyond me consider the cuddy is 1.24cm is in the international 133 cms have always jumped 1 metre and until last few years only 2 or 3 clear at HOYS.This is the final championship of the year and some riders last time in 133 cams class and should be a test. This years winner has always got round courses. He was placed 10 years ago and has won at RI also ; a much deserved winner .The change has been in the demands made by the qualifiers. The 133 cms M and M class is a relatively new introduction and a very different test. At HOYS only or under BSPS rules generally? If the latter then no, in days gone by the maxium heights for 133cm were 3ft (90cm) height and 3ft 6 spread (8ft for water) . 143cm had a max 3ft3 height and 4ft spread (10ft for water) and 153cm had a max 3ft 9 height and 4ft 6 spread (12 feet for water). Those height/widths applied to qualifiers and championships alike.
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Post by Show77 on Oct 9, 2015 16:59:00 GMT
How are the arabs getting on?
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Post by teabag on Oct 9, 2015 17:44:32 GMT
Starry Night retired. Standing ovation and not a dry eye in the room. Will be in the supreme. What a horse!!! Hats off to Rob Walker and connections for retiring this wonderful horse at the pinnacle of his career
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Post by gunnsparc on Oct 9, 2015 18:23:37 GMT
Hunter Championship results when the come please!
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Post by blovell on Oct 9, 2015 18:42:58 GMT
Ridden Arabian of the Year 9 - HS Toscanini 8 - Maya Johara 7 - Crystal Ora Sheen 6 - Perfect Design 5 - MIRV 4 - Sameon Marouk 3 - Sharrinahh 2 - judas sweetest Kiss 1 - Patros
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Post by blovell on Oct 9, 2015 18:44:19 GMT
Hunter champion for 2015 is Vantage Point & Robert Walker
Reserve is Bloomfield Tetrarch & Jayne Ross
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2015 18:59:00 GMT
Thank you for the updates I'm not getting much housework done though! It's your anniversary - congratulations, sit down feet up wine at the ready and order a take away if hubby not taking you out! LOL
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Post by thatboythatgirl on Oct 10, 2015 6:50:17 GMT
133 cms have always jumped 1 metre and until last few years only 2 or 3 clear at HOYS.This is the final championship of the year and some riders last time in 133 cams class and should be a test. This years winner has always got round courses. He was placed 10 years ago and has won at RI also ; a much deserved winner .The change has been in the demands made by the qualifiers. The 133 cms M and M class is a relatively new introduction and a very different test. At HOYS only or under BSPS rules generally? If the latter then no, in days gone by the maxium heights for 133cm were 3ft (90cm) height and 3ft 6 spread (8ft for water) . 143cm had a max 3ft3 height and 4ft spread (10ft for water) and 153cm had a max 3ft 9 height and 4ft 6 spread (12 feet for water). Those height/widths applied to qualifiers and championships alike. Just HOYS not normal bsps classes
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Post by mummy on Oct 10, 2015 18:58:18 GMT
Is there anyone at HOYS for the plaited workers today that also saw the M&M workers yesterday? I would be interested to know how different the course is to that of yesterday? I know that the plaiteds are allowed +10cm, and the M&M's +5cm, and obviously there is a difference in the width, but there seems a huge difference between the two sections now. At a risk of being shot down, is the plaited getting too difficult and the M&M easier? One for debate on another post perhaps? There is a country mile between M&M courses and plaited at Hoys and the RI. It isn't just the height, which can be far more significant in reality than it might look on paper, but also the width and the technicality. The M&M courses on Thursday weren't big but the fences were very cleverly placed and some combinations just didn't look as if they had quite enough experience for a clear round. The plaited course was technical, brilliantly placed fences. The ponies who went clear in the 133 made it look easy but it was so big and beefy that some extremely genuine ponies, and smaller ponies, simply found themselves over-faced, which was really sad to see. However, neither Precious Gem nor Harry Potter are full up 133s and yet they both gave craacking clear rounds, and there was a magnificent and worthy winner in the 20 year old Purple Ronnie. Every pony in the line up was scopey enough to make it look very jumpable and were within their comfort zones, but had either a pole or a quirk. It hardly went up a hole for the 14 handers but then went up again for the 153s, and the intermediates looked vast but proved to be the most exciting class, with so many fabulous performances and it really was a showcase class for the BSPS, with a phenomenally strong final line up which I certainly wouldn't have wanted to judge! What a great day.
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Post by Toaster on Oct 10, 2015 19:04:15 GMT
I wish I had seen it!
Congratulations on your family making the placings twice 'mummy'
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Post by mummy on Oct 10, 2015 19:06:43 GMT
Meant to add to previous post that, I imagine, most plaited ponies doing WHP classes also do SHP classes and are, therefore, in most cases, up to height for both disciplines. We have had working hunter ponies for 11 years and have only ever done 1 shp class, the First Type. I am very surprised to read that most plaited workers also do SHP classes and really don't believe this to be the case at all. In fact, I can only think of two off the top of my head - perhaps the others just aren't very good! Our 143 worker was 138cm as my daughter was also very under-height, so it suited her - it's hard enough to find the right pony, without only being able to accept ponies at a bullseye heihgt! x
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Post by mummy on Oct 10, 2015 19:11:54 GMT
153cm clear rounds Golden Island Star Sole Na Gig Dancing Hero Freckleton Maximus Noble Topman Fortview Toy Boy So it looks like the 153s have managed the track better than the other height sections so far. I got it wrong earlier, and forgot there were 3 in the plaiteds that were in the M&M's and two have jumped it clear today. Perhaps the 153's and exc 143cms are very strong classes with some exceptional jumping ponies? (Not to demean the other sections of either class in any way as all did brilliantly to qualify!) The course hardly went up for the 143 after the carnage in the 133. There is no doubt in my mind that it is a huge advantage to have a "practice round' the previous day in the M&Ms! I think there are some phenomenal jumping ponies in every section - every pony in the 133 line up made the course look very jumpable but those who weren't clear either had a random pole or a random quirk - the ponies not in the lineup but who completed were probably the ones who had struggled a bit more.
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Post by mummy on Oct 10, 2015 19:13:48 GMT
153cm clear rounds Golden Island Star Sole Na Gig Dancing Hero Freckleton Maximus Noble Topman Fortview Toy Boy So it looks like the 153s have managed the track better than the other height sections so far. I got it wrong earlier, and forgot there were 3 in the plaiteds that were in the M&M's and two have jumped it clear today. Perhaps the 153's and exc 143cms are very strong classes with some exceptional jumping ponies? (Not to demean the other sections of either class in any way as all did brilliantly to qualify!) The course hardly went up for the 143 after the carnage in the 133. There is no doubt in my mind that it is a huge advantage to have a "practice round' the previous day in the M&Ms! I think there are some phenomenal jumping ponies in every section - every pony in the 133 line up made the course look very jumpable but those who weren't clear either had a random pole or a random quirk - the ponies not in the lineup but who completed were probably the ones who had struggled a bit more. Also, the older riders invariably have more experience, which makes a big difference round a course like this one
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Post by mummy on Oct 10, 2015 19:17:56 GMT
Fluffy who won the 143 WHP today is 138cms In Ireland! ...... where the measuring sticks aren't always quite the same! in my experience!
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Post by mummy on Oct 10, 2015 19:28:44 GMT
I wish I had seen it! Congratulations on your family making the placings twice 'mummy' That's so kind of you! Thank you! We had a super day, although very emotional as that was Susie's last class with Bossy, but apart from his quirky moment he was fabulous as ever, and we were absolutely thrilled to bits with Cash too. Wouldn't swap either of them for the world - two very dearly loved boys!
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Post by anon123 on Oct 11, 2015 8:02:56 GMT
Is there anyone at HOYS for the plaited workers today that also saw the M&M workers yesterday? I would be interested to know how different the course is to that of yesterday? I know that the plaiteds are allowed +10cm, and the M&M's +5cm, and obviously there is a difference in the width, but there seems a huge difference between the two sections now. At a risk of being shot down, is the plaited getting too difficult and the M&M easier? One for debate on another post perhaps? There is a country mile between M&M courses and plaited at Hoys and the RI. It isn't just the height, which can be far more significant in reality than it might look on paper, but also the width and the technicality. The M&M courses on Thursday weren't big but the fences were very cleverly placed and some combinations just didn't look as if they had quite enough experience for a clear round. The plaited course was technical, brilliantly placed fences. The ponies who went clear in the 133 made it look easy but it was so big and beefy that some extremely genuine ponies, and smaller ponies, simply found themselves over-faced, which was really sad to see. However, neither Precious Gem nor Harry Potter are full up 133s and yet they both gave craacking clear rounds, and there was a magnificent and worthy winner in the 20 year old Purple Ronnie. Every pony in the line up was scopey enough to make it look very jumpable and were within their comfort zones, but had either a pole or a quirk. It hardly went up a hole for the 14 handers but then went up again for the 153s, and the intermediates looked vast but proved to be the most exciting class, with so many fabulous performances and it really was a showcase class for the BSPS, with a phenomenally strong final line up which I certainly wouldn't have wanted to judge! What a great day. But 'mummy' it was Claggan Silver Knight who came second..,who is Harry Potter?
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Post by mummy on Oct 11, 2015 12:35:21 GMT
There is a country mile between M&M courses and plaited at Hoys and the RI. It isn't just the height, which can be far more significant in reality than it might look on paper, but also the width and the technicality. The M&M courses on Thursday weren't big but the fences were very cleverly placed and some combinations just didn't look as if they had quite enough experience for a clear round. The plaited course was technical, brilliantly placed fences. The ponies who went clear in the 133 made it look easy but it was so big and beefy that some extremely genuine ponies, and smaller ponies, simply found themselves over-faced, which was really sad to see. However, neither Precious Gem nor Harry Potter are full up 133s and yet they both gave craacking clear rounds, and there was a magnificent and worthy winner in the 20 year old Purple Ronnie. Every pony in the line up was scopey enough to make it look very jumpable and were within their comfort zones, but had either a pole or a quirk. It hardly went up a hole for the 14 handers but then went up again for the 153s, and the intermediates looked vast but proved to be the most exciting class, with so many fabulous performances and it really was a showcase class for the BSPS, with a phenomenally strong final line up which I certainly wouldn't have wanted to judge! What a great day. But 'mummy' it was Claggan Silver Knight who came second..,who is Harry Potter? Thanks Jane - Huge apologies to poor Hugh Horne - of COURSE it was - post-Hoys dementia..... I know all those ponies by their stable names and had a (nother) moment of lunacy! It was a great round from Hugh and his gorgeous pony, especially after such early carnage - you can always rely on a boy to show us how it's done! Many apologies - my mistake xxx PS: Who is Harry Potter? He is another super grey 13 hander - 2nd at the RI a couple of years ago.
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Post by sparkysunny on Oct 11, 2015 14:37:36 GMT
Meant to add to previous post that, I imagine, most plaited ponies doing WHP classes also do SHP classes and are, therefore, in most cases, up to height for both disciplines. We have had working hunter ponies for 11 years and have only ever done 1 shp class, the First Type. I am very surprised to read that most plaited workers also do SHP classes and really don't believe this to be the case at all. In fact, I can only think of two off the top of my head - perhaps the others just aren't very good! Our 143 worker was 138cm as my daughter was also very under-height, so it suited her - it's hard enough to find the right pony, without only being able to accept ponies at a bullseye heihgt! x I stand corrected! Although I did say 'I imagine' in my post - I made the assumption that many plaited ponies that do WHP classes would also do SHP, but I'm more than happy to accept that I'm wrong and that this appears not to be the case
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Post by mummy on Oct 11, 2015 16:00:47 GMT
We have had working hunter ponies for 11 years and have only ever done 1 shp class, the First Type. I am very surprised to read that most plaited workers also do SHP classes and really don't believe this to be the case at all. In fact, I can only think of two off the top of my head - perhaps the others just aren't very good! Our 143 worker was 138cm as my daughter was also very under-height, so it suited her - it's hard enough to find the right pony, without only being able to accept ponies at a bullseye heihgt! x I stand corrected! Although I did say 'I imagine' in my post - I made the assumption that many plaited ponies that do WHP classes would also do SHP, but I'm more than happy to accept that I'm wrong and that this appears not to be the case Sparkysunny, I do hope my answer didn't sound cross - it certainly wasn't meant to! It does seem a pity that more show hunter ponies don't do workers but I daresay it comes down to all sorts of factors, not least time and money! xx
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Post by sparkysunny on Oct 11, 2015 19:06:46 GMT
mummy - not at all! I think I just jumped to an inaccurate conclusion! x
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Post by bigmama on Oct 11, 2015 21:06:08 GMT
Oh how I do love to see people polite and getting along! Such a breath of fresh air after reading about the alleged Hoys punch up in the Guests Posting Area!
Thank you happy posters, you are a credit to your sport xx
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