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Post by Isitworthit on Jan 31, 2019 20:45:27 GMT
Has any one had their pony/ horse with a producer for show production. Please share good advice or anything to avoid... Also what is the normal price .. I need to encourage my dad that it's the best idea. Thank you in advance
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Post by gillwales on Feb 1, 2019 7:07:09 GMT
It is some years since I had ponies produced, however you need to ask what is included; some will use their own tack and rugs, others expect everything provided. Ask about shoeing/ trimming and costs. Travelling and what happens at shows. Some are more including and provide a wonderful experience for their clients, the Burts from Kingvean were particularly skilled at this; others just take or get your pony ready for or in the ring and really refuse to communicate with you! If ridden do they provide a rider or give you lessons if you are riding. Look at the stables, ask if the box you see your pony put in will be it's regular box or if it is likely to be moved to a less favourable one, keeping the same box is important to help prevent the spread of disease. Make a list of everything important to you, the other thing to ask is if they have another of the same age and type as yours, try to avoid this as it can lead to conflicts of interest. Ask how many shows they would aim your pony for; don't be tempted to go out every weekend. There is a lot to it, but if you like and trust the people it can be great fun. However do remember there is not the same satisfaction has doing it yourself.
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Post by Isitworthit on Feb 1, 2019 10:29:51 GMT
Thank you Gillwales Do they vary in prices? It's hard to check up on individual producers prices and ability as there are no reviews available - like you would check out trip advisor .. so to speak But I will take note of checking out like you mentioned ..
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Post by Produced on Feb 1, 2019 11:38:58 GMT
Depending on the producer and type of horse/pony you would be looking between £140-£180 per week. this would include feed, bedding and livery costs but excludes farrier, vet and travel costs
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Post by oldschooler on Feb 1, 2019 12:09:02 GMT
Depending on the producer and type of horse/pony you would be looking between £140-£180 per week. this would include feed, bedding and livery costs but excludes farrier, vet and travel costs This sums up my experiences exactly. Will be having a pony produced again this season (for the 4th year.) Have always home produced before, for over 30 years, and will admit to loving the luxury of just turning up at the shows. My producers are absolutely super, nothing is too much trouble for them. Would highly recommend, it definitely is worth it. I was only going to do it one season!
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Post by jakes87 on Feb 2, 2019 6:40:02 GMT
Depends on your producer for the price I know a couple that where £210 a week a couple of years ago
I also know of another who's Full livery was £150 a week but all the additional stuff Involved for shows was an added cost
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Post by sarahp on Feb 2, 2019 9:15:17 GMT
I used a producer for my ridden Ds for years as I did not have had the time to dedicate to showing them to the level they deserved, and have used an IH producer for my As since I could no longer run them myself. Both, very carefully chosen, have been great to work with and had some top class results with my ponies for me.
gillwales and oldschooler have covered the practicalities, the only thing I could add is that it is sometimes suggested that you turn up unexpectedly at your producer's yard to check up although I must admit I've always trusted mine and never done this.
As for satisfaction - I think it depends why you're showing in the first place. I'm definitely with oldschooler on this one, but then my own focus has always been breeding rather than showing, which for me is an exercise in showing off what I've bred, or possibly bought in future breeding stock. I have never bought anything in to show. Others may find they love to start with the raw material and their joy is in the production from raw state to show animal. Why not, we're all different? but the latter would get less satisfaction from using a producer.
I do now too have a couple with someone who rides them for me actually out doing things rather than flat showing, although they do a bit of that along the way.
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Post by Produced on Feb 5, 2019 14:22:26 GMT
I would recommend the following:
1) Agree expectations between yourself and producer whether this be what classes your horse/pony will be aimed at, number of times to be shown, monthly budget. 2) Ensure contracts are in place- this helps with the above and both parties are covered. 3) Choose a producer with a good personality fit to yourself, if you are verbose, love to keep in contact and know what your pony is up to, find a similar producer otherwise both parties will end up frustrated.
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