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Post by kickon on Oct 25, 2009 10:29:36 GMT
Do you mean Danger?
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Post by Designer Stubble on Oct 25, 2009 17:02:48 GMT
We were very luck and grew up having miles of stubble to gallop up so had extremely fit ponies who also evented. The person who taught us to show ring gallop did it in a long sided field with oil drums placed where she wanted us to extend from, where we were to start to ask to come back and lastly where we had to be back in trot by and just round the corner where we were to ask for halt. We had to sit up, get the animals hocks under us and ask them to lower and lengthen their stride. It worked a treat but boy if we didn't get them back in time we were yelled at, so we did as we were told!
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Post by kayjayem on Oct 25, 2009 17:55:36 GMT
FMM I bet he prefers that to poncing round a show ring then he can really have a good blow out!
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Post by hollycane on Oct 25, 2009 20:23:37 GMT
Totally agree with FMM that the HOYS arena is very small to get a gallop in but all you need is one stride of sit down and 3 strides of stretch with 2 strides of back into your hand. And another point but the slow down is just as important. Screeching to a halt or worse looking like the horse is going to fall over looks really dreadful. The gallop should always be back on the hocks and into the hand, never drop the front end. Hunting is the best training or large open spaces. It's very obvious when animals never go out of a 30X60 school. They are physically unable to extend as they generally aren't strong enough.
Apple123 give me a date for Keysoe as very happy to do it.
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 25, 2009 20:27:19 GMT
We dont have any size school to work in! I dont think a horse can use himself in such an enclosed space also dont like to work babies in them.
Apple123 we would come if you can arrange?
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Post by nici on Oct 26, 2009 13:36:05 GMT
Well all the racing the kids have been doing recently has worked wonders with my little Shetland! He had an experienced small adult riding him in the Small Breeds excl Welsh class at Festival of Champions yesterday, and did a stonking gallop at the end of his show ;D And despite being a baby, did a perfect slow down at the end too, when asked by his rider.
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Post by bemused on Oct 26, 2009 15:39:30 GMT
I see so many riders (adults) going for the gallop as they go into the corner. This is so dangerous and never looks balanced or tidy, I am suprised some of them dont fall over! By the time they are in front of the judge they have either run out of steam or look a total mess. My sons trainer teaches to come off the corner, then pick up your gallop - tidily! aiming for a good gallop in front of the judges.
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Post by hollycane on Oct 26, 2009 18:08:19 GMT
Totally agree bemused. Riders need to use the corners to lift the shoulders and set the horse up so the strides of gallop are in front of those who are judging not a hooley for ringside spectators. nici I don't judge ponies but I love a really good Shettie and I love to see them gallop as they are proper mini weight carriers so well done.
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Post by dazycutter on Oct 26, 2009 20:30:28 GMT
did anyone see the WHP at SWP in the supreme... that galloped for England... LOL
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Post by dazycutter on Oct 26, 2009 20:34:31 GMT
not sure about Veterans but I have seen them do it. VHS do not allow gallops under their rules..
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Post by tabbyx on Oct 26, 2009 20:39:16 GMT
did anyone see the WHP at SWP in the supreme... that galloped for England... LOL at swpa champs was that the chesnut?
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Post by dazycutter on Oct 26, 2009 20:43:07 GMT
did anyone see the WHP at SWP in the supreme... that galloped for England... LOL at swpa champs was that the chesnut? no, the dark brown WHP took supreme right at the end of the day on Sunday.. The judges shouted "let him go " was fab
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Post by ponymum on Oct 27, 2009 9:42:41 GMT
lol...gallop...the best one i ever saw was Ryan of riverstown at puk in the young riders riding horse class in about 1997/8 He galloped around 2 rings about 6 times..... he went soooo fast that the photos were incredible to say the least. The horse was in focus, but he was going so fast that the background was blurred.....Amazing.
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Post by jenwalsh on Oct 27, 2009 14:03:06 GMT
I dont think that not allowing the horses to gallop at home in the field is the big problem, i had to teach my horse how to gallop in the arena as its not really natural for them. He would quite happily tank about the field with me but didnt really get why i was asking him to gallop in an enclosed space and would only give me extended canter. I had to start off in the field, teaching him how to gallop from command and then come back a few strides later and then transfer that command into schooling in the arena so that now as soon as i bring both legs behind the girth he shoots off at full pelt and gives a really good gallop.
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Post by qbc on Oct 27, 2009 14:08:39 GMT
I am still working on this - just started a few months ago as wanted to get everything else established. I have been taught to get him going so that as I come out of the corner he really goes for it. His gallop at BSPA was great - ride judge commented on how well he went for him when asked to - good acceleration and brakes.
What I have found is that when asked to do the gallop on the go round you get so many people still staying in a slow canter that it is difficult to get your gallop due to people going slowly in the way.
Being still a very green novice, does anyone have suggestions on what to do in this situation - I can't always get a circle in if the ring is small and with a lot of people in it - do I just overtake the slow folks on the gallop or keep the brakes on and stay in line?
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Post by hollycane on Nov 1, 2009 21:57:48 GMT
QBC always try and get your gallop in the first 3 or 4 horses or the last 3 or 4 if it's a big class. Remember the judge will only be looking directly in front so you could even come down to trot for a small circle behind the judge in order to make a space. Never be cramped by those who won't gallop. If the judge has requested a gallop, those who don't are showing their inabilty by not doing so and a lack of manners. Stay as far to the outside to give you the most room and plan it so you stride on directly in front of the judge. It's tough on those who are cramping your efforts.
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Post by qbc on Nov 2, 2009 11:36:41 GMT
Many thanks for telling me this. I- I will just have to keep practising until we get it right and get the space we need. I also need to work at how I get the gallop so more lessons for both of us.
At the moment I do need to build up the canter approaching the corner - tapping his shoulder, applying leg and at the same time keeping the brakes on and telling him to get ready and clicking to get him slightly wound up, so he comes in nice and bouncy and then accelerates out of the corner and really moves.
I will spend the winter working on trotting a circle and then go straight onto gallop when asked.
Problem is that he is very laid back so does not get excited and want to race which is great but does also mean the gallop takes some preparation rather than just kick and go as I could do on my TBs and my last traditional who loved to go flat out.
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Post by thecremellosociety on Nov 2, 2009 12:14:32 GMT
Mine has a cracking gallop, not had chance and decent enough ground at the 2 shows i have done yet, dont know if dare let her go lol, have let her go across someopne fields on a hack May be a case of scrape me of the floor, i feel no point asking for gallop until you are in a straight line never would do it before a corner !
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Post by nici on Nov 2, 2009 23:19:38 GMT
My friend's daughter has just taught my Shetland to do halt to gallop transitions - she's taking their practice for the Shetland Grand National very seriously
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Post by cassie30 on Nov 2, 2009 23:42:38 GMT
Ah bless!! love your lot Nici, they have so much fun!
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Post by nici on Nov 3, 2009 0:01:21 GMT
I did have to tell her off the other day though - her mum had caught her galloping across the field on Sammy when she had gone to catch him - bareback, headcollar.... But SHE WASN'T WEARING HER HAT! So she's banned from riding him now unless she is wearing her hat!
Fortunately he's very sensible for a recently backed 4yo pony. And she's a very gutsy 8yo child!
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Post by solitaire on Jan 26, 2010 19:00:57 GMT
My D mare would not gallop until she was about 8 years old it was hard work getting to that but found dropping your reins and ssssssssssssssssing at her (bit like a snake noise) worked.
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Post by cheryl on Jan 26, 2010 22:54:00 GMT
My veteran has a great gallop. I have a 4 year old D who ive nevr tried to gallop yet but im sure it will take her a while to actually do it.
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Post by MaestroDMM on Mar 27, 2010 12:48:10 GMT
I disagree with the hack statement....when I qualified my large the judge asked us to do an idividual show and I was the only one who galloped resulting in my HOYS ticket. I think every horse should gallop in the show ring, it would be amazing to see how many hacks cant gallop!
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Post by hyderboo on Mar 27, 2010 16:20:34 GMT
I think its the best part of the go round and show love it, trouble is that when we are wanting to just canter he thinks he should gallop lol!!!
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Post by sophieandcallum on Mar 28, 2010 16:38:14 GMT
My pony will not gallop in a smaller school, but give a bit arena or big grass ring and he will go for it down the long side ;D Last year doing novices, very few even did an extension, so we were usually placed higher when we managed a good gallop ;D best part of the individual show I think. Having them collected throughout and then just asking them to go for it most ponies won't think twice
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Post by proudwilliam on Mar 28, 2010 17:13:33 GMT
The Royal Welsh main stand is where the hunters gallop past the audience clap and cheer whilist the judging is going on for the one they like the best!! I have it on video when my boy was champion the cheering was very loud and I was quite embarassed but it is a tradition. I wondered whether the judges were intimidated.
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Post by mcw on Mar 28, 2010 20:25:35 GMT
I think that in any open or novice class that's not first ridden, lead rein or veteran should gallop.
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Post by conniegirl on Mar 28, 2010 22:52:23 GMT
I do think it is a shame that veterans are not allowed to gallop, My 28 yearold loves going for a good gallop up a hill and is always so mannerly about coming back to you. My 20 yearold connie loves a good blast, he isnt quite so polite about coming back to you when having a blast up a hill in a group (and boy can he shift when he wants to!!) but generaly in the show ring he minds his manners and comes back nicely.
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Post by extend on on Mar 29, 2010 12:24:28 GMT
The supreme worker at SWPA had the best gallop I have ever seen. I would have loved to have taken him hunting!!!
When i judge, i always try and reward those who really let the horses go.However they must have brakes! Absolutley no point having a great gallop that takes 6 rounds of the ring to stop.
Lady Denny Harpers horses always seem to have a fab gallop....especially her palo
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