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Post by Fluid on Nov 23, 2009 14:52:53 GMT
Well just to let people know i am a member on here but unsure if i want people to know its me.
Well i have just bought a hunter a few weeks ago, was fine for first two weeks, he has now gained fluid in both back legs around his hocks, one is worse than other. Tryed everything to get it down nothing is working. Totally unsure what it is, but we think he has had it before and past owners put something on to keep it down. (really peeeed off). The only thing is he is himself totaly fine and not lame at all.
Any suggestions?
Thanks x
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Post by thecremellosociety on Nov 23, 2009 15:03:40 GMT
has he been stood in for anylength of time ? Only think that would take swelling or fluid down i would think would be bute or diretics maybe Was it vetted and blood sampled ? Could he have strained himself ??
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Post by dancer on Nov 23, 2009 15:11:21 GMT
We had a pony recently with vasculitis but the swelling was in his fetlocks & lower legs (all 4 eventuallly) not his hocks - we got antibiotics & anti-inflammatries from the vet which cleared it eventually, it was caused by internal toxic poisoning.
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Post by fluid on Nov 23, 2009 15:15:19 GMT
He is in but he goes out in arena for few hours a day. We are geting vet out to him this week, so i am sure we will find out something.
Just wondered if anyone had this before?
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Post by fluid on Nov 23, 2009 15:16:03 GMT
Thanks dancer will keep that in mind
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Post by mayhem on Nov 23, 2009 15:18:01 GMT
Hard feed can make them swell, just turn him out should be fine.
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Post by apple123 on Nov 23, 2009 15:39:40 GMT
My mare used to get fluidy hocks and vets threatened us with diagnosis of OCD which is not good but we had the all clear from that, after vet treatement we used to keep them down by caking them in goose fat. They only used to fill when she had stood in.
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Post by Beany4 on Nov 23, 2009 16:40:26 GMT
My cobs legs used to fill when he was stood in over winter -hes fine now he is turned out more.
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Post by sageandonion on Nov 23, 2009 16:40:27 GMT
I hope you did have him vetted.
I personally would have a vet. You cannot treat until you have a diagnosis. Check him for mild mud fever, cuts, abrasions which could cause cellulitis, lymphoedema, for which he will require antibiotics though unless this is very mild he would be off colour and have a temperature.
Unless you are aware your horse has a chronic condition which you just need to manage, don't presume he just needs turning out, get a diagnosis.
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Post by rubybintkrayaan on Nov 23, 2009 22:36:09 GMT
My mare had swellings in her back legs on her fetlocks and lower legs, vet came out and always put it down to infections as she is so thin skinned and only a tiny little cut would effect her, vet gave us danilon and anti - biotics they always used to get them down, its not happened recently fingers crossed it wont happen again as it happened every couple of weeks or whenever she got a cut but sometimes there wasnt anything to be seen, it was very frustrating and never got to the bottom of it!!
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Post by tamrik on Nov 23, 2009 23:06:52 GMT
marigold and clivers is a good herbal remedy for horses whos legs fill after being stood in.
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Post by chloe2 on Nov 23, 2009 23:26:31 GMT
I would have her blood tested to check all well. Often it can be low protein/toxins which cause swelling. I would also panacur 5 day worm her with a 5 day gap then Equest her just to help elimate worms as encysted red worms can cause swellings. Good luck x
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Post by holiday on Nov 24, 2009 7:58:57 GMT
We used to find all the hunters legs swelled when they first came in after the summer, once they started on hard feed again. Usually the proteins, but get your vet just to check and im sure its probably a slight infection or a protein difference, are you feeding the same as he was on?
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Post by rubybintkrayaan on Nov 24, 2009 10:14:25 GMT
marigold and clivers is a good herbal remedy for horses whos legs fill after being stood in. I'll give this a try!
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Post by thecremellosociety on Nov 24, 2009 11:42:23 GMT
I would have her blood tested to check all well. Often it can be low protein/toxins which cause swelling. I would also panacur 5 day worm her with a 5 day gap then Equest her just to help elimate worms as encysted red worms can cause swellings. Good luck x Bloming heck i wouldnt do that more likley cause colic !!! We on a worming programme and never use a 5 day anyway and only worm routinely and when pooh counts dictate, i wouldnt do the above without the advice of a vet, and never heard or worms causing leg swelling !
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Post by kayjayem on Nov 27, 2009 23:21:11 GMT
Panacur 5 day and Equest both worm for the same thing(encysted red worms) so no point doing both - would probably just knacker the flora in the gut!
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Post by sageandonion on Nov 28, 2009 9:59:45 GMT
With all due respect, I think the 'turn it out and it will be fine' thing is somewhat old fashioned. Filled legs are not normal and are an indicator that something is amiss. Probably not serious, but like everything else, a small thing not treated correctly can turn into a major thing later on.
In humans, filled legs can be a sign of a mild strain to a major heart attack waiting to kill you, so diagnosis and correct treatment is key.
I think it is great we can all give little tips on products/methods to manage a minor chronic condition, but presented with a set of symptoms, I say call the vet is the only advice appropriate from the rest of us.
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Post by Becs on Dec 1, 2009 15:12:16 GMT
Might sound strange but do you have rubber matting?
I have a heavy 16.2 who had trange swelling in his back legs, i called the vet who did not really help, just gave him bute and told me to kep him out as much as possible.
Only thing is he did not like going out for long amounts of time but when he came in his legs were fine but by the next morning they were back up again.
We have just moved to a new yard who wont let us have rubber matting, he is now in his stable more than ever but his legs have not been swollen at all.
I am putting this down to the matting, if you do use matting it might be worth trying him/her without it to see if it works for you!
Hope this helps you.
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Post by Becs on Dec 1, 2009 15:14:04 GMT
Sorry second line is supposed to say strange swelling.
Really need to start proof reading things!!!
x
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Post by mrcolin on Dec 1, 2009 17:21:02 GMT
when the horse is turned out does him bomb round and pull up very quick on his hind legs?
One of mine did this earlier in the year and obviously pulled something as his legs swelled up just below/around the hock, luckily no damage done!
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Post by nffan on Dec 1, 2009 18:00:07 GMT
Have you asked ex owners if he has had it before.
Personally I would, they may be able to shed light on it. It may be something innocent and they may be able to help.
I have just bought a new pony and he got some lumps after a few weeks and his old owner was great, he had never had them before but she was very helpful in suggesting what it could be and also in anwering all my questions about what he had be having and turnout etc...turned out to just be heat lumps and I was being a fuss pot...in my defence I have never had a pony who gets hot in the winter lol...
Good luck, I am sure you must be gutted.
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Post by chloe2 on Dec 1, 2009 21:37:05 GMT
I would have her blood tested to check all well. Often it can be low protein/toxins which cause swelling. I would also panacur 5 day worm her with a 5 day gap then Equest her just to help elimate worms as encysted red worms can cause swellings. Good luck x Bloming heck i wouldnt do that more likley cause colic !!! We on a worming programme and never use a 5 day anyway and only worm routinely and when pooh counts dictate, i wouldnt do the above without the advice of a vet, and never heard or worms causing leg swelling ! Sadly I bought a pony and after a colic incidence he was fouind to have encysted red worms. So upon the advice of the vet school, this was the treatment. Then 3 weeks later it had to be repeated. Panacur 5 day is gentle, but there can be resistence to it which is why you need the equest follow up, starting with equest can be too dramatic and bring on colic on a horse with a high worm burden. His system has had to be replenished with probiotics, red cell etc and high protein. The swelling is due to low protein, which again can be caused by worms draining the system of vitamins etc.
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Post by Hunter123 on Dec 9, 2009 17:12:43 GMT
Still has this for nearly over 2 weeks, not gone down at all. Old owners saying he had nothing whilst with them.
More ideas needed please as we are very angry and sad at this as we are thinking the worst of him not geting better so we can't compete.
Thanks
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Post by dancer on Dec 9, 2009 17:28:26 GMT
What has the vet said?
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Post by BelmontShowTeam on Dec 9, 2009 17:34:57 GMT
swellings inlegs are an indecation of a few things, unless your a vet and can see the animal one can only guess at what it is, worms yes but the its belly would look low and its coat in poor conditiion, injury more likely especially if they go down when turned out, could be nothing more than too much hard feed and standing it resulting in a build up of toxins, best thing to do is to have the vet out, at least they would be able to tell you if its an old injury. then you have a bona vida reason to go back to the old owers.#
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Post by Hunter123 on Dec 10, 2009 17:03:14 GMT
Vet hasnt been out yet as he said we should work him everyday for two weeks to see if it had gone down. And it hasnt so we are ringing him back in a couple of days.
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Post by sageandonion on Dec 10, 2009 17:08:38 GMT
I presume he saw the horse before he gave you that advice?
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Post by Hunter123 on Dec 10, 2009 17:23:24 GMT
no, we rang him up said what was wrong.. he said is he being stood in and not being worked everyday .. we said said yes as we wasnt working him everyday. He said he thinks it might be because he was standing in. Well he goes out in a morning for up to an hour, then i bring him in either lunge or ride everyday for past two weeks. Its gone down a bit but nothing much still looks the same.
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Post by Balvenie on Dec 10, 2009 18:17:53 GMT
Vet hasnt been out yet as he said we should work him everyday for two weeks to see if it had gone down. And it hasnt so we are ringing him back in a couple of days. I would change your vet. How can he give advice when hasnt seen the horse? ??
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Post by sageandonion on Dec 10, 2009 19:55:44 GMT
I agree you should change your vet and have a vet out straight away, this really is going on far too long.
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