Can anyone recommend a headcoller that will help me control an exitable youngster, ive heard people talk about restraining / controlling headcollers, do they work? how much are they and were can i buy one as i am sick of being pulled off my feet thanks
My friend had wonderful results with a large bolshy youngster with the Monty Roberts Dually halter. Probably better to pay for a session with your youngster and a Monty registered associate (this is what she did).
Try the Kelly Marks intelligent horsemanship site to find your local RA - you should be able to purchase the dually from them. Not sure how much they charge but everyone I have spoken to who has had help from them has been very complimentory. Let us know how you get on.
I would be wary about using a pressure halter on a youngster - the youngest I have used one on was 3 years old. Maybe it would be better to get someone out to help you with handling issues.
I like the Richard Maxwell version over the others (have heard horror stories about the be nice locking on pressure and not releasing). The RM one comes with a good video and is fully adjustable so can be used on any size of horse.
Have just bought two be nice head collars for my youngsters, one decides to just p*** off when the mood takes her and drag me, the other is just a bolshy gelding with the idea waving at me is a great idea. Iordered them from the states from a site called crazy horse, I got two, both these ponies are about 13.2 with riding pony heads. i have'nt fitted them yet, but they look the right size, they came today, took 13 days, was able to track their progress from when they were shipped, and the best thing is....... the exchange rate is so good, I paid $100 dollars inc shipping, and that translates to roughly 50/55 quid, when the price here is about 35 quid each!! I have a friend who uses them and the comment from her was 'oh yes, they work!'. Can probably tell you more once I've had them on and the horrors have tried their party pieces, without fail the filly will have a try tomorrow, as she wont have a rope round her nose (I hate doing that which is what prompted me to try these). Will report back.
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be nice headcollars work wonders, got ours from ebay from america, highly recommend then but for the amount you'll use it i reckon mend you shop around, its either the kelly marks / monty roberts website gives a demo of how to use the dually on there. but having both i would def. go with the be nice.
PLEASE if you get one of these will you have some proper training in using it (that goes for everyone). When my old SHP went to Monty (before he got 'famous'!) he told us all sorts of horror stories about ponies breaking their necks, noses etc in them because they had been used incorrectly.
Yes they are brilliant if used properly but PLEASE get some training!
Thanks Overbent i know what you are saying i have had horses for 40 odd years and pride myself on doing things by the book but these days i am not as strong and this youngster is very bolshy and i just want a little more control bringing him in from the field either that or she has to go
I had great success with a very strong cob that used to turn his head away from you and march off by just using a lead rope with a chain end. The chain ran from the far side of the head collar through to the near side and my cob soon learnt not to pull against it. It sounds quite harsh, but it led to very quick results with this particular horse. You see it used a lot on thoroughbreds, particularly stallions where it is often put across the nose instead of under the chin
Go to www.garywitheford.co.uk. you can buy headcollars from him and booklets on how to use them. I have taken 2 horse that would not load to Gary with excellent results......one would not go near the trailer ramp, I could only get her within 5 yards of it, after a few days with Gary my 12 year old could load her. While at his yard I saw some amazing things, all with the aid of the headcollar, which is American, comes in various sizes and costs about £25, but you do need to be shown how it works, having also used the Dually, Gary's is 100% more effective
I got one from the stand that does the dog collars and shetland headcollars at HOYS. Not very helpful, can't remember the name.
They come in lots of sizes. They are made of thicker rope and will not be as severe as the Be Nice ones, and are a lot cheaper too. (£20).
Can get them over internet if I could only remember name of company!
Worked miracles on my boy who was a bolshy know-it-all from the day he was born. I used it on him from being about 8 months old as he really was a critter, but he respected that halter. Age has improved him and he now leads in just a headcollar. He is 4 now.
In an ideal world I don't like these contraptions, and its easy to say that when you have a perfect child, my current yearling I wouldn't dream of using one on her, she is a little sweetie, but her brother was a menace as a youngster.
I would much rather he learned with a control halter quickly, as he had the potential to turn into a naughty and dangerous horse.
I had the same problem with our yearling sec C colt, he found that he could just set his neck and literally drag you whereever he wanted to go. It became dangerous for my daughter to lead himas he nearly had her under a car one day. I borrowed a controller halter and the difference was unbelievable no more yanking and tugging at him he respected it and was a much nicer pony for using it on him. I think if we had battled with the normal headcollar he would have become a rogue. I think nipping it in the bud as soon as it starts is better than trying to reason with them sometimes. Not all are alike though you know your own pony and what it needs.
Well, today I decided not to use it on the filly as I have to lead her and another together out to the field on my own, so I'm goint to wait til thursday when I have some help. I found them very easy to adjust and fit, I used it on the gelding, but he was having a 'quiet' day so I was able to lead him quite happily on a loose lead rope with no problem. My main problem now, is that my mother cannot deal with the filly and refuses to lead her at all now as she was quite badly hurt the other week by her. I have to stop this behaviour now, as at the end of the day, she is to be a childs pony, and having quite suddenly learned to use her weight against us from being the ideal baby, who was always as good as gold I cant have her thinking this is an acceptable way to carry on. I have tried the Richard Maxwell 'long rope' theory to no effect whatsoever, she just repeats the behaviour when she wants, and having myself been injured two weeks ago by being dragged and tearing all the ligaments in my foot, am myself no longer able and wont be for quite some time to continue with that particular training method. I feel perfectly confident in my ability to be able to use this headcollar correctly otherwise I would not have bought it. I agree that some animals can be taught respect quite easily compared to others, and that so called gadgets can be dangerous in the wrong hands, with people who are willing to learn how to use them correctly and not as an offensive weapon, they have their place.
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