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Post by CUDDY on May 19, 2007 20:37:46 GMT
post we're removed due to comments about the section A judge, that she was a hopeless judge. As for CUDDY's I dont see the point of dragging up the HOYS business. If I remeber that turned into quite a long thred. Anyone know the results??
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Post by unlucky NLI on May 19, 2007 21:51:57 GMT
I heard Nebo got the cuddy might be wrong tho
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 20, 2007 7:24:53 GMT
B Millington got the cuddy with the Hunter Breeding. Welsh A Stallion Reserve and J Jordans Dartmoor Stallion 1st Reserve
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Post by GB on May 20, 2007 10:22:24 GMT
After looking throughout the supposedly strange Section A results, most of the ponies listed are fairly accomplished in the show ring. What exactly do you mean by odd? It is extremely annoying to post a comment without any justification of how you reached this conclusion. Perhaps you could elaborate?
Just to add admin - anyone using AOL (which I would think a fair amount of users do) will share the same few ISP numbers.
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Post by odd on May 20, 2007 11:12:19 GMT
Whats the point elaborating on the odd judging when its just removed. I had said what was odd but it been taken off, I wont bother typing it all out again.
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Post by GB on May 20, 2007 11:17:31 GMT
Sorry 'odd' but as I have only just read this thread I did not realise your comments had been removed. Perhaps they were moved because they were offensive and if you had tried to get your point across in a reasonable manner they would not have been deleted.
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Post by odd on May 20, 2007 13:16:34 GMT
BG they were put forward in a reasonable manner. The section A judge did some very odd things, things that most people around the rings thought were odd. But there you go, more judges on the outside thankfully who thought the judge on the inside was 'odd' and did some really odd, not good, decisions.
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Post by mms on May 20, 2007 20:20:14 GMT
Hairies: 1st Drummersdale Josh (Champ) 2nd Townend Midnight NF/Conn: 1st Loughfadda ?? (Res) 2nd Willoway Lord of the Rings
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Post by Wiltshire Man on May 20, 2007 21:43:41 GMT
Who won Ridden welsh D
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Post by bronco on May 20, 2007 23:18:22 GMT
I was at ringside watching, and the comments I heard were very positive about the section A judging. I think it's probably only competitors that didn't do very well that are complaining. The C judge was Mrs J. Lutey fom Cornwall.
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Post by odd on May 21, 2007 8:45:01 GMT
how wrong are you bronco. Its worrying that people think that sort of judging was good, really is depressing. Have spoken to a lot of people who were not competitors and all say the same. She had really good ponies in positions like 3rd in some classes, 4th in others, 2nd sometimes (even almost last is the mare class) and then had something sub-standard winning the class. Really was a sorry sight.
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Post by horseoftheyearshow on May 21, 2007 11:11:31 GMT
I watched the section A judging and thought it was really awful and agree with the comments about the mare class. People around the ring were very concerned. In the ridden A's the judge pulled all the greys 1st to 4th and then the rest. What I found very sad was how rude the judge was to some of the less experienced children who hadn't realised it was a set show. Bear in mind that at county shows local children will be competing who might not 'do' the show circuit.IMO the final line up was terrible. The clear winner should have been the bay waitwith pony who did a stunning show and was 4th.
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Post by unlucky NLI on May 21, 2007 12:05:16 GMT
Here are the D Ridden Results 1st-HS The Money Maker 2nd-Blaengwen Jonah Lomu 3rd-Rhydypandy Taran 4th-Trevarth Galahad 5th-Goyallt Gwenluan 6th-Abergavenny Tlws
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Post by watcherontheday on May 21, 2007 12:19:28 GMT
I watched the section a's judging and could definately follow what she was doing - manners definately seemed to be taken into account and the two greys, who admittedly do usually win quite often were badly behaved - hence their placing - refreshing to see ponies that misbehave and are not controllable at the bottom of the line up.
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Post by odd on May 21, 2007 13:42:01 GMT
Finally, someone with some sense lol! Yes everyone round the ring was very concerned about her judging, really was a pain to watch!!
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Post by watcherontheday on May 21, 2007 14:16:39 GMT
So my comment about the judging not worth commenting on then? Do all of you think badly behaved ponies deserve to win then and manners count for nothing? I certainly never heard anyone slating her judging and was stood at the ringside watching for the duration of her judging. After all these ponies are supposed to be suitable for children to ride.
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 21, 2007 15:21:11 GMT
Funny that there was so much Concern out of the ring. I was in the welsh A classes and was very happy with the Judging.
For once we had a judge that looked at the WHOLE class, gave each one her time.
Adding. My groom/owners were stood watching and heared nothing.
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Post by mysterious on May 21, 2007 15:31:34 GMT
wouldn't it be boring if all the same people one all the time!!
Any results for b's inhand please?
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Post by abe on May 21, 2007 15:32:39 GMT
Any C ridden results please?
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Post by odd on May 21, 2007 16:28:35 GMT
my comments are aimed mostly at the in hand but heard many a complaint about the ridden too. I wouldnt mind if the same pony won all the time, if it deserves it then let it win all the time.
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Post by odd on May 21, 2007 16:37:04 GMT
sorry abe just seen you post, ridden I know that Horses - Welsh Section C - Ridden Class 794 - M,S,G Ridden 4+ Cat No Exhibitor’s Name Animal Name 1st2nd3rd4th5th6th 870869871874873844 Davis, Mr JBooth, Mrs MGamlin, Miss LJobson, Mrs SHall, Ms LDouglas, Mrs A M POPSTERS MAMMA-MIA ASHGROVE RED ROSE HARDYS LILLY POPSTERS THE GAMBLER LLANINA EASTER MELODY BELOWDA PENDRAGON
Horses - Welsh Section D - Ridden Class 800 - M,S,G Ridden 4+ Cat No Exhibitor’s Name Animal Name 1st2nd3rd4th5th6th 919932931923934921 Davies, Mr MTaskis, Mrs SReynolds, Ms D KMcNaughton, Mrs JWillis, Mr PDavies, Mr M HS THE MONEY MAKER BLAENGWEN JONAH LOMURHYDYPANDY TARAN TREVARTH GALAHAD GOYALLT GWENLUAN ABERGAVENY TLWS
In hand section B champion was llanarth camilla
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Post by Morwenstow Stud on May 21, 2007 21:25:43 GMT
What I found very sad was how rude the judge was to some of the less experienced children who hadn't realised it was a set show. Bear in mind that at county shows local children will be competing who might not 'do' the show circuit.IMO the final line up was terrible. The clear winner should have been the bay waitwith pony who did a stunning show and was 4th. We competed at Devon County in both the in hand and the ridden section A classes. Our 16yo mare, who is totally home produced by my 13yo duaghter, who got her fit and prepped her for the show, as well as getting her ready on the day, was pulled in 4th. We were over the moon, and the judge was very complimentary about my mare. Her only negative comment was that she didn't like to see ponies stand stretched. My mare automatically does this, and has done since I got her. I explained this, and Mrs Redvers was very kind and took this into account. I thought out placing was fair. In fact I was over the moon to be placed at all. In the ridden, my daughter, who has only ridden for 4 years, took the same 16 year old mare. A mare that has been a brood mare until 2 years ago when my daughter broke her in and schooled her, with very little help at all. We were not aware that there was a set show, so my daughter did her own. And yes they wrong legged it all the way round in the initial ride round. This was my daughters first ridden county class. She was nervous. She was pulled in 7th out of 11 and we were ecstatic with that. The judge walked over to my daughter at the end of the class and spoke to her. She was far from rude to my daughter. She made no comment at all about her show. She merely said that our pony was a beautiful mare, but that really my daughter was too big for her. We already knew this, and this is my daughter last summer on her pony, as she's for sale, though I have to say, if it had been a stallion this probably wouldn't have mattered as you have to be 12 or over to ride one. Mrs Redvers told my daughter to make sure that when we sell her we find her a wonderful home. My daughter came out grinning her face off, gave her pony a hug, and we went back to the box very happy people. Our ponies have won at Royal Cornwall, been reserve Champion to a P(UK) champ at a showing society show. Champ of a local area show. We've also stood last in line at a local pony club show with some very questionable turnouts stood at the top of the line.We don't care. We show because we enjoy it. I've always said that if the joy ever goes from showing, and if I ever find myself moaning about judging, or about my placing, I'll stop showing. In the end they're just ribbons. Do they really matter that much that it's worth slating people over them?
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Post by Cuddy on May 21, 2007 21:47:50 GMT
Did Bridget win with the good horse who was Reserve at West Midlands Stallion Show? Chantry Cover Girl?
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Post by welsh on May 21, 2007 22:06:07 GMT
watcherontheday in hand welsh classes do not have a manners element - they are a breed class not a best childs pony class - manners come into account in a ridden class Youngstock and stallions are usually excused the odd indiscretion as long as they are not downright dangerous in which case they shouldnt be in the ring..
i agree odd I was suprised at some of the results too but then nothing in showing is a cert, and i suppose she got the champion about right- although im sure there will be plenty of other ringside judges to disagree with me!
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Post by 4fun on May 22, 2007 8:15:04 GMT
I watched a few of the inhand classes on Saturday morning. My friend's 2 yr old filly got very upset, not because she is a badly behaved pony but because there was a shire horse banging his stable door throughout the class right next to the side of the ring. One spectator told me the horse had been doing it continuously all morning. I don't think you could could blame a youngster for being wound up.
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 22, 2007 8:16:11 GMT
I watched a few of the inhand classes on Saturday morning. My friend's 2 yr old filly got very upset, not because she is a badly behaved pony but because there was a shire horse banging his stable door throughout the class right next to the side of the ring. One spectator told me the horse had been doing it continuously all morning. I don't think you could could blame a youngster for being wound up. It was not just doing it on the saturday but over all 3 days
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Post by odd on May 22, 2007 15:54:30 GMT
Agrre with you about manners in hand, doesnt matter as much. Welsh, yes she did do some funny judging, and I think the champion was also right from what she HAD in the championship, but she missed some fantastic ponies along the way...ah wel.
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Post by OTT on May 23, 2007 13:04:31 GMT
Watched some of the section A inhand classes and didn't think it was too bad, would have changed the top two around in the stallion class though.
Whilst we're on the subject, is it true that out out the 10 or something like that entered in the 138 SP class only two turned up. Can't believe it but that's what i've been told, what a shame for the people that did turn up not having any competition.
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Post by totrue on May 23, 2007 13:36:27 GMT
Watched some of the section A inhand classes and didn't think it was too bad, would have changed the top two around in the stallion class though. I have to agree with you OTT I really like Galong but Ros Is a beautiful pony and im so glad he's doing well he really deserves it.
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Post by Molly on May 23, 2007 13:46:54 GMT
Watched some of the section A inhand classes and didn't think it was too bad, would have changed the top two around in the stallion class though. Whilst we're on the subject, is it true that out out the 10 or something like that entered in the 138 SP class only two turned up. Can't believe it but that's what i've been told, what a shame for the people that did turn up not having any competition. Yes there was two ponies in the 138 SP class and the 153 SHP class. The one what won the 13.2's was a worthy winner, would give the big boys a run for their money.
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