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Post by nappies on May 21, 2007 18:40:34 GMT
;DSorry to be dopey, but can someone explain why NPS have changed the 2nd Olympia qualifier And please explain what you have to have to be able to enter (not sure if I understood) and how will NPS manage the entries for this new qualifier.
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Post by Wild Card on May 21, 2007 18:47:31 GMT
It is called Wild card. It is for people who have won or come 2nd in their sections throughout the year!
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Post by not sure on May 21, 2007 20:20:42 GMT
So let me get this right - if you have stood 1st or 2nd this season in an olympia qualifier then you can enter it? - if so there wont be many in it with the closing date 1st June - would that be about 10 in each class
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Post by results on May 21, 2007 20:26:06 GMT
i read it that you could enter if you won your section or were reserve champ i would think these entries will go on untill end of july
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Post by read it on May 21, 2007 20:48:29 GMT
i read it as ,,,,,, if you had won your section or had been 2nd to the champion
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Post by Wiltshire Man on May 21, 2007 21:50:32 GMT
I thought it say Champion and Res Champion on that day and both will get ticket to Olympia Final
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Post by i think on May 21, 2007 21:56:03 GMT
Originally the idea was for it to be for all reserve champions throughout the season, plus the pony that stood 2nd in the class to the eventual champion.
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Post by read it on May 21, 2007 22:10:41 GMT
THE NPS BAILEYS HORSE FEEDS MOUNTAIN AND MOORLAND SUPREME RIDDEN CHAMPIONSHIP (OLYMPIA) RESTRICTED WILD CARD QUALIFYING ROUND
To be judged under the NPS Rules for the Mountain and Moorland Ridden Championship.
The entry fee for these classes is £27.00 for NPS members.
This competition is open to the following ponies from Qualifying Rounds that have already taken place in the current year:- a) the first prize winners of each section (unless already qualified for the Final for the current year) and
b) 2nd placed pony to the Champion (unless already qualified for the Final for the current year)
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Post by HavAgo on May 22, 2007 6:36:11 GMT
No-one will be able to say the society is making any money on this qualifier. Let's hope all the ponies eligible will be encouraged to compete.
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Post by Summertime on May 22, 2007 6:46:17 GMT
I dont mean to be rude but I cant really see the point in doing this, all it seems to do is cut out people attending the champs who would like to do the Olympia, especially as we only need our membership card this year!! Why would NPS want to cut down on entries?? Perhaps I am missing the point but the reserves and 2nds to the reserves IF they are at the champs would probably be doing it anyway??
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Post by blackie on May 22, 2007 6:50:10 GMT
I for one really welcome the idea of the wildcard olympia round. However, I am saddened that the NPS has introduced it by deleting one of their premier event rounds, surely a good idea gone bad due to hasty thoughts. Can we urge the NPS to rethink and maybe continue with the two Olympia rounds at their summer champs as well as (perhaps) an early evening wildcard event which, I am sure, would also draw the crowds to watch!
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Post by nappies on May 22, 2007 7:15:13 GMT
:-*Thanks to everyone for explaining!! I agree with'Blackie' great idea.
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Post by was there on May 22, 2007 8:20:17 GMT
Please read the qualification carefully, you can enter right up untill the day for the same fee. Two ponies will qualify the Ch. from the first two sections and the Ch. from the three remaining sections. This is an extra qualifier there will be 36 ponies going to Olympia.
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Post by ponygirl on May 22, 2007 9:24:37 GMT
I for one really welcome the idea of the wildcard olympia round. However, I am saddened that the NPS has introduced it by deleting one of their premier event rounds, surely a good idea gone bad due to hasty thoughts. Can we urge the NPS to rethink and maybe continue with the two Olympia rounds at their summer champs as well as (perhaps) an early evening wildcard event which, I am sure, would also draw the crowds to watch! I agree with you Blackie - I thought the whole idea was to give an additional chance to qualify - whilst this is great for those that have been first in their section - it gives others less chance to get through
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Post by wild on May 22, 2007 10:10:51 GMT
I think there should be a wild card for the pony that has been reserve most times throughout the year with a maximum number of qualifiers aloud to enter so people don't drag ponies to every one.
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Post by steve on May 22, 2007 10:33:46 GMT
I think the wild card class is a good idea. As a regular NPS competitor I see quite a few ponies win their own section on a regular basis but for some reason never get the elusive championship. Maybe it will work and maybe it won’t, but let’s give it a try before we knock it. If it ends up not being as good as all would hope then I’m sure the NPS will listen to ideas and suggestions of how to make a class like this work better. By doing some different things it goes to show that the NPS is not stuck in a rut and are trying new ideas to make the Summer Champs and the NPS as a whole more appealing.
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Post by too close on May 22, 2007 12:51:15 GMT
Just wondering how many of you will be going to RIHS i think the NPS is too soon after the RIHS and would not want to take my ponies to both shows especially at that time of year when the ground is like concrete am i being too soft or do others agree i would love to do both but cannot bring myself to do both also it means having too many holidays close together i am usually at the RIHS for 3 nights as we have SPs as well. it is a 5 hour drive to RIHS and 3 to Malvern
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Post by ahh on May 22, 2007 13:41:20 GMT
your being too soft
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Post by Aimee NLI on May 22, 2007 14:44:48 GMT
I agree with you 'wild', points would be much better as my pony has won 3 out of 4 classes already so has qualified for the wild card, but its no good qualifying if you have the worst judge ever at the final!!
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Post by abe on May 22, 2007 14:52:22 GMT
I think this is a good idea Aimee, I've been saying for ages that they should have a points system which gives a ticket to a pony that has been close all season but never actually got that elusive ticket. But I think that,like steve said earlier, thet would have to impose a maximum amount of results that would contribute to the points system otherwise you would have people doing as many qualifiers as they possibly could and this would bring up a welfare issue. This would mean that the pony that got the ticket would have been liked not just by one judge, but by many! I think alot of us have had one of those, always the bridesmaid, never the bride seasons!
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Post by nappies on May 22, 2007 15:04:18 GMT
::)Does anyone know if the NPS asked or had a poll to see what all NPS members thought of this???
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Post by membefr on May 22, 2007 15:08:14 GMT
::)Does anyone know if the NPS asked or had a poll to see what all NPS members thought of this??? Everyone was given a questionnaire which had specific questions about the Olympias and asked for comments from members.
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Post by steve on May 22, 2007 15:08:15 GMT
The points system is also something that we discussed at the champs last year. Again the problem is making it workable. For example go North and the Olympia qualifiers are thin on the ground go south and they are in abundance. Not getting into the north south debate here but we live near Blackpool and 99 times out of 100 my wagon heads south. To be honest though we consider ourselves fairly well placed in the country 50% of the shows are still realistically beyond or reach as they are way south. Now if we consider it a problem what about the poor members North of the border. Must be a nightmare for them.
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Post by great on May 22, 2007 15:37:10 GMT
Yes Aimee and Abe I agree so many times people have been so close to qualifying on lovely ponies and with the point system would of got there. You for example Aimee with Judge and last year you got three reserves with your highland imagine if you never got to Olympia on the fourth attempt you would be gutted as you were so close and would of really deserved to be there. I think we should suggest this point system for next year.
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Post by steve on May 22, 2007 15:59:21 GMT
A points system as I said earlier is one idea. It would actually suit me. The problem is IMHO it will require a major reshuffle in the location of qualifiers to make it workable. I don’t think that will happen.
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Post by Wiltshire Man on May 22, 2007 18:57:00 GMT
I prefear qualifly rounds like HOYS, less stress for the ponies with long journey all over the country to chase just to win a Champion to get ticket to Olympia
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Post by Guestless on May 23, 2007 9:51:12 GMT
Personally I can't see the logic of a point system. Supposing someone doesn't have enough money to do any more than 1 or 2 qualifiers. They could have a fantastic pony but it could be excluded if the wild card was based on points.
While I appreciate Judge has been unlucky so far this year, I don't think it would be fair to award the wild card to any pony just because it has been reserve more often than another. Just MHO though!
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Post by Judge on May 23, 2007 10:08:44 GMT
But to have had more reserve champions than any other pony, surely that means he is the best of those who are just missing out!!!
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Post by Guestless on May 23, 2007 10:52:13 GMT
But to have had more reserve champions than any other pony, surely that means he is the best of those who are just missing out!!! Not necessarily IMO. If a pony only does one or two quals and is reserve, he/she may not have been up against Judge so surely that pony deserves a chance at the wild card too. I think it's quite a good system and could help those who can't afford (the time or the finance) to do more than one or two qualifiers a year. I'm not a fan of travelling all over the UK to chase a qualifier tbh.
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Post by busybusy on May 23, 2007 11:16:07 GMT
too close - how many ponies do more than one class at the Royal International? I don't think it is too much to go to the Nps - as long as the pony hasn't spent a whole week couped up in a stable at the Royal International!!!!
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