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Post by CRNativePonies on Mar 12, 2012 12:26:52 GMT
I have a miniture jack russell bit*h who is 1.5 years old. I am looking at breeding her at the end of the year but ofcourse worried and unsure of what to put her with as she is very small and i wouldnt want to cause any risks or complications with her. I was thinkingof putting her with a pug or another jack russell. Any suggestions?
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Post by sarahp on Mar 12, 2012 12:45:43 GMT
I had an unnaturally small cocker who we mated to another cocker. Very luckily we had a new neighbour very experienced with dogs (actually JRs by coincidence) in when she had them as one puppy was breech and very stuck, she pulled it out and gave it the kiss of life, we could easily have lost both mother and son if she hadn't been there. Never again! And don't pugs have much wider heads than JRs anyway?
I must admit in your place I wouldn't risk it. And there are plenty of dogs about wanting homes if you want another for yourself.
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Post by boothsdale on Mar 12, 2012 13:52:22 GMT
I also have a very small jack russell b*tch - we were planning to breed from her but she is going to be spayed next month instead - she's too precious to lose!
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Post by PennyP4 on Mar 12, 2012 14:35:59 GMT
I breed on a small scale, I always ask myself a few question before a mating takes place,
1) what are my reasons for breeding this litter.
2) can I provide a home for any puppies that don't find a suitable home.
3) has the stud dog had all relevant tests.
4) have I enough savings to provide proper vet care in the event things go wrong (they offten do)
5) do I have at least 5 families on a waiting list.
If I can't give myself satisfactory answers I DON'T breed.
The fact you say she is tiny I would personally have her spayed. Breeding dogs is offten heartbreaking and expensive. One of my bit*hes had a c-section out of hours and I cost my £1100 in vets bills.
People are offten under the misconception that there is loads of money breeding, I can let you from experience this is not the case! You literally have to give up 2 months of your life to care for the pups and the bi*ch.
Really think long and hard about this and don't jump in with 2 feet hoping to make a quick buck. It's the life of your bit*h and the unborn puppies you are putting at risk.
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Post by network on Mar 12, 2012 15:00:02 GMT
I have a miniture jack russell bit*h who is 1.5 years old. I am looking at breeding her at the end of the year but ofcourse worried and unsure of what to put her with as she is very small and i wouldnt want to cause any risks or complications with her. I was thinkingof putting her with a pug or another jack russell. Any suggestions? Why do you want to breed off of her? There are enough dogs/puppies out there in rescue centres looking for homes, please dont breed just for the sake of it  |
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Post by CRNativePonies on Mar 12, 2012 17:01:35 GMT
Ive always been interested in breeding dogs, we couldnt breed my last dog because she had bad hips. Everywhere we take our jack russell people love her because she is black and tan and is very unusual looking. I definately wouldnt do anything to risk her health, breeding her was just something that i was interesting in doing  |
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Post by maihem on Mar 12, 2012 22:20:46 GMT
If she is very tiny then i would be careful using a pug as they have quite big heads, try and find a tiny JR or another tiny breed I have a tiny Miniture pinscher bit*h who will possibly have a litter to another of the same, black and tan. Also be very careful not to give her extra food if you go ahead, fat puppies spell disaster for whelping! Feed her lots after she has whelped. xx Good luck with whatever you decide
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Post by network on Mar 13, 2012 11:32:56 GMT
Ive always been interested in breeding dogs, we couldnt breed my last dog because she had bad hips. Everywhere we take our jack russell people love her because she is black and tan and is very unusual looking. I definately wouldnt do anything to risk her health, breeding her was just something that i was interesting in doing Sorry in my mind that is not a good enough reason to go ahead and breed |
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Post by lolol on Mar 13, 2012 11:34:07 GMT
I put my chihuahua on for stud and people emailed me saying why would i put it up for stud when there is so many dogs in rescues. Personally I think with her being small you will be able to home the pups easy due to everyone wants 'handbag dogs'. I work at a kennels and any of the rescue ones that are small get rehomed within hours. Just try and make sure the dog you put her with is as small as possible and be prepared that things could go either way she could have 5 healthy pups and no problems or various other things could go wrong. Do you have a pic of her? |
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Post by network on Mar 13, 2012 12:31:33 GMT
I put my chihuahua on for stud and people emailed me saying why would i put it up for stud when there is so many dogs in rescues. Personally I think with her being small you will be able to home the pups easy due to everyone wants 'handbag dogs'. I work at a kennels and any of the rescue ones that are small get re-homed within hours. Just try and make sure the dog you put her with is as small as possible and be prepared that things could go either way she could have 5 healthy pups and no problems or various other things could go wrong. Do you have a pic of her? So basically the fashion at the moment is to have these miniature breeds, so what happens when the fashion changes and all these miniature's end up in rescue homes. Sorry but indiscriminate breeding of any animals really really annoys me  |
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Post by nici on Mar 13, 2012 13:19:03 GMT
In order to breed successfully from your tiny JR you would have to find a tiny stud dog, to avoid further risk to your little one. Yes the resulting pups would probably sell easily - there is, as you say, a real trend towards "teacup" puppies at present. But just because it's fashionable, it doesn't mean it's good Before thinking of breeding from your tiny JR, please read the article in the link below. www.barktopia.com/teacup.htmOur JR is black n tan, and very very cute too, although thankfully a healthy size Parsons. She has the best ever temperament I've ever come across, and it would be so tempting to breed from her, as she is so sweet and a perfect child's dog. However we love her far too much to risk it - my daughter would be devastated to lose her, and there are plenty of dogs needing homes without us adding to the problem. |
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Post by network on Mar 13, 2012 15:17:39 GMT
Aww that is so sad to read, just goes to show that people should stop breeding for the sake of it, let alone trying to breed these tiny tiny dogs  |
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Post by CRNativePonies on Mar 14, 2012 10:55:05 GMT
Oh my jack russell is by no means a 'teacup' shes just not as big as a standard jack russell. Where i live is very rural and a lot of people have jack russells for working/yard dogs etc. A lot of people have asked me about my JR and enquired if i'd have pups off her as they would be interested in one. Being a JR shes obviously a good yard/wagon dog and being black and tan, stands out a lot more. Here's a pic of my JR |
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Post by nici on Mar 14, 2012 11:01:02 GMT
Aw she's the spit of mine! Don't have any photos of her here, will have to post one when I'm home  |
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Post by crazychick on Mar 14, 2012 12:20:51 GMT
Can't help you with a stud dog but just wanted to say I don't think you'd have any trouble finding homes for them - I've just got a JR pup, we ended up with two but only intended on keeping the girl so put the little boy on facebook, we had at least 6 people wanting him in just a few hours, all were great homes. We did sell him well below the going rate but we didn't get him to make money, we just wanted a good home for him. Here's a pic, the brown one is mine  Good Luck with what ever you decide |
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Post by B_31 on Mar 14, 2012 12:27:11 GMT
without being rude.....
there are tons of jackrussells you can pick up for a couple of hundred quid.... your not going to make any money......
you sound like you want to make a quick buck cause" your dog is cute".... mines cute and i could have made £300 a pup from a crossbreed
but i love my dog and got her spayed.
there are FAR to many dogs out there as is..... and i despise people who think rescues can deal wtih the problem because they cant
worse case scenario.... your b*tch dies due to complications
and your dogs are rehomed, unwanted and end up at a rescue home being pts......
think about it.
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Post by lolol on Mar 14, 2012 12:35:35 GMT
There are loads of dogs out there that dont have homes, if you go to rescue's you will find mostof theses are medium sized dogs. Even though there is small dogs that need homes, they normally get homes straight away. I have bought a chihuahua bit*h to breed and make money off. So the way I see it if you reckon you'll be able to sell the pups and it's somthing you wanted to do, I don't see the problem.
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Post by CRNativePonies on Mar 16, 2012 10:49:32 GMT
without being rude..... there are tons of jackrussells you can pick up for a couple of hundred quid.... your not going to make any money...... you sound like you want to make a quick buck cause" your dog is cute".... mines cute and i could have made £300 a pup from a crossbreed but i love my dog and got her spayed. there are FAR to many dogs out there as is..... and i despise people who think rescues can deal wtih the problem because they cant worse case scenario.... your b*tch dies due to complications and your dogs are rehomed, unwanted and end up at a rescue home being pts...... think about it. Im sorry but i find that quite rude and harsh to be honest. Im quite aware that JR's dont sell for a great amount so how can i be in it to make 'A quick buck'? |
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Post by watchbank on Mar 16, 2012 11:12:25 GMT
I breed Irish Wolfhounds once every 2 years, its a risky buisnesss. I wouldnt do it if i had a bog standard breed were there are millions of them in the world, my breed are rare i breed to keep bloodlines and never for profit.. to be honest i spend more money on them and mum in the time shes in pup and the 12 weeks i have 10 or 11 giant puppies to feed. I also sleep with them for 4 weeks til they are big enough to get out of mums way if she lies on one. Please have a re-think - what would you do if anything went wrong and you lost your dog, or if she needs a ceasearen and dies under anesthetic - there as SOOO many risks, sometimes its just not worth it.
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Post by Kaseyleigh on Mar 18, 2012 0:18:11 GMT
To be honest the edge of reason your a very rude person all she asked was what to breed her dog with get a grip you are very rude and annoying !!!!! I breed patterdales everytime my b*tch comes into season there are many dog yes that don't have home but they are mostly staffy's or mongrels not small full breds or small part bred so stop thinking your it and think it is for you to stick your penny's worth in !!!!
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Post by sarahp on Mar 18, 2012 7:44:30 GMT
She speaks the truth and wasn't trying to be rude, just honest. Many people have made the same points on here.
Personally I wouldn't want to risk losing the dog if she were mine, she will most likely have normal size JR genes so the pups could well be too big for her if mated to a JR dog. If she was X-bred would all the people who love JRs around you want a mongrel puppy?
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Post by kilnstown on Mar 18, 2012 8:33:13 GMT
Two years ago we bred from our very good pet/working Parson Russell bit*h, although she had a fairly straight forward pregancy, the pups where huge, she managed to deliver them all herself, but had a small tear, which did require anitbiotics for a while, I have to say it was the most stressful time ever, and never again. And this statement is from someone that breeds cattle sheep and horses so well used to the breeding cycle of most animals. Think very carefully before you go ahead, and be prepared for whatever outcome comes your way.
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Post by PennyP4 on Mar 18, 2012 15:27:55 GMT
To be honest the edge of reason your a very rude person all she asked was what to breed her dog with get a grip you are very rude and annoying !!!!! I breed patterdales everytime my b*tch comes into season there are many dog yes that don't have home but they are mostly staffy's or mongrels not small full breds or small part bred so stop thinking your it and think it is for you to stick your penny's worth in !!!! You breed from her every season........Shame on you! What an utter disgrace. Poor little thing she isn't a breeding money making machine. |
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Post by lolol on Mar 18, 2012 15:53:39 GMT
Some people buy dogs just to breed from and make money. If the dogs in good health then good luck to them |
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Post by lils on Mar 18, 2012 15:54:38 GMT
To be honest the edge of reason your a very rude person all she asked was what to breed her dog with get a grip you are very rude and annoying !!!!! I breed patterdales everytime my b*tch comes into season there are many dog yes that don't have home but they are mostly staffy's or mongrels not small full breds or small part bred so stop thinking your it and think it is for you to stick your penny's worth in !!!! You breed from her every season........Shame on you! What an utter disgrace. Poor little thing she isn't a breeding money making machine. my th0ughts exactly. and these people who are claiming there are no small dogs to be rehomed- go on many tears website, there are hundreds. you may think haveing one litter wont hurt, but from that one litter of say 5 pups, if all of those 5 went on to have another 5 each, then all of those went on to have pups.... |
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Post by CRNativePonies on Mar 19, 2012 19:10:29 GMT
My dog hasnt been purposely bred to be small, her mum is quite big and so is her dad. I guess shes just turned out smaller than the rest really :/ I can understand fully that lost of dogs that need rehoming but as dubhshee pointed out, many of these are staffys or staffy crosses that have been bred for fighting. I would never breed her if i didnt think i could rehome the puppies but quite a few people have already expressed intrest if i were to have puppies from her. Its just about me enquiring and getting some knowledge about it all before I make a decision really.
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Post by vikki85 on Mar 20, 2012 9:02:32 GMT
Some people buy dogs just to breed from and make money. If the dogs in good health then good luck to them I have no problem with people like watchbank who have an interest in continuing an uncommon breed like an irish wolfhound and we obviously don't want ANY breed of dog to die out, common or not, I also do not have a problem with people that breed good quality, pure-bred puppies in a responsible way (as described by Rubytwoshoes) who happen to make a profit. I do however have a problem with people who buys dogs JUST to make a profit and have no actual interest in the breed or the poor dog!!! teddybear, I understand that you're not necessarly doing this to make a profit, but please think of the implications it could have for your little dog, at the very least consult a vet about your concerns over her size. Please also consider whether you can guarantee a 5* forever home for each puppy. Just because her puppies will be small and perhaps easily homed, it doesn't mean they are going to get the exercise and mental stimulation that dogs of ANY size need! From what I've seen from watching Victoria Stillwell on It's Me Or The Dog, it's quite often the smaller dogs that actually have the biggest problems as they are allowed to get out of hand due to their size. So being easily homed due to size does not necessarily mean they are going to have happy life (no offence meant to anyone on here who has a smaller breed of dog, I'm sure you are all exemplary dog owners but sadly not everyone is  ) |
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Post by CRNativePonies on Mar 20, 2012 9:17:15 GMT
Yes i completly agree and like any other animal i sell i wouldn't want them to go to any less than a 5 * home. A lot of people that have said they would be interested are friends, a lot of which have horses and already have other dogs so I know that they'd be going to home were they would be loved and looked after |
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Post by vikki85 on Mar 20, 2012 9:40:25 GMT
Yes i completly agree and like any other animal i sell i wouldn't want them to go to any less than a 5 * home. A lot of people that have said they would be interested are friends, a lot of which have horses and already have other dogs so I know that they'd be going to home were they would be loved and looked after Just realised you'd already put about friends and horsey people being interested in one of your above posts - glad to hear you've already thought about where they would go if you do go ahead and put her in pup I do feel very strongly about this sort of thing, I bought a non-KC registered husky B*tch as a puppy - I know this seems rather hypocritical given my above outburst lol but I bought her as pet only, there were only two bit*hes in the litter and mine has been spayed - the way I see it, that's one high-maintainance dog in a very happy home that can never be bred from! I dread to think where she could have ended up if I didn't buy her |
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Post by watchbank on Mar 21, 2012 18:50:59 GMT
Well my opinion on it is as above - you just need to look at the rescue centres that are full of dogs, breeding doesnt help unless you are keeping a good bloodline available.
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