jojo79
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Post by jojo79 on Apr 8, 2012 17:46:45 GMT
My show cob is clipped out and I turn him out to grass 3 times a week. I used pig oil around his pasterns for the first time on Friday....and by this morning he has 3 huge splits in the flesh under his pastern above the heel on his left fore...its swollen and weeping causing him stiffness with heat in his lower leg. I'm so angry that I wasn't aware of pig oil being so corrosive to flesh. I'm now told that it can burn...which is why its mostly only suitable for hairy legged horses as their skin is protected by the dense hair. If anyone is thinking of using pig oil on thin skinned animals - don't -, please just opt to rinse the mud off thoroughly every time they come in - rather than risk pig oil.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2012 18:27:23 GMT
pig oil was just used in the feathers on hairy legged horses, rather than rinse mud off of a horse when it comes in from the field i find it best to let it dry completely then brush off less chance of mud rash this way than keep washing legs down
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Post by ponymum on Apr 8, 2012 18:47:15 GMT
jojo79 - we too had a similar thing with one of our ponies, we put pig oil on his mane to try and protect it and the oil burnt our pony on his withers - i felt so awful for causing him pain ;-( , hopefully your boy will recover soon , you may need anti biotics if the splits are weeping x
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Post by CarolineNelson on Apr 8, 2012 19:05:31 GMT
Pig oil is meant for PIGS! so use with caution.
Seriously, how difficult is it for us to cook perfect 'crackling'. that is how tough a pig's hide is........
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Post by oily on Apr 8, 2012 19:21:43 GMT
I would have thought it was sensible to not use oil based products when it is warm? Would you use baby oil as a sun cream, probably not. Sorry to hear it has caused this on your horse though, have spent weeks warning of the dangers of pig oil, avon skin so soft and baby oil- but oh no people wont listen they know best.
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Post by horsey1231 on Apr 10, 2012 9:33:01 GMT
We use pig oil on its own and pig oil mixed with sulphur for our cobs, We have never had any problems at all with it. The pig oil and sulphur is great it keeps the mites away and protects against mudfever promotes hair growth and whitens there feather after a couple of days. Although i can imagine it wont be suitable for every horse thats why i always do a little test patch first.
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Post by georgie0 on Apr 10, 2012 9:50:06 GMT
what do people use avon skin so soft for and whats the problem with it?
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Post by tbmare on Apr 10, 2012 10:33:41 GMT
i know of a pony many yrs back that had sweet itch, someone recommended pig oil.. to stop the itching... the mane totally fell but also burnt the hair of the top if his mane/crest.
SSS i used this on my pony it acts as a fly repellent and i is oils based.. i use it on me as an after sun.. but i do know some peeps that will use this and other oil in the sun.. you are quite literally "cooking " your skin to get a tan!!
I have used SSS on a pony with severe sweet itch... i used to pour .. not spray it on her neck.. tail.. rump.. it was the only stuff that helped her sweet itch.. she had thickened skin.. from the itching from yrs of non or ineffective treatment befoe she come to us. it's like anything you use .. use with caution and read the lables.
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Post by thecremellosociety on Apr 10, 2012 10:39:54 GMT
I use baby oil but not in direct sunlight, mine itches tummy and used sudocreme as a barrier last yea rbut made him itch more due to its drying effect, Charlies is more like an excema, soi spray his tummy with baby oil (THIS DOESNT GET THE SUN) and add some TCP to the mix as a fly repelleant but also a antiseptic on the sore bits.
Sounds like yours has had an adverse reaction to the oil used.
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Post by roseview on Apr 10, 2012 11:05:46 GMT
Having had a pony suffer a horrendous burn from Aromesse I would advise everybody to be really careful about what they use. Natural products does not mean safe!!
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Post by Marymoo on Apr 10, 2012 19:47:06 GMT
i have used pig oil on my horses feathers for a few years and had no problem. I put some on his legs a couple of weeks ago and its burnt all his fur off the backs of his legs. They have been a right mess. Wont be using it again.
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Post by nexttime on Apr 11, 2012 11:28:04 GMT
I dilute my pig oil with water which does help and it also makes it last longer
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Post by merrymooxx on Apr 11, 2012 12:15:33 GMT
i use pig oil and sulfer for our cobs and when they come from the feild they get it washed off but because the oil is on the mud just slides off, but ive never had any trouble with it before :/
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Post by Kaseyleigh on Apr 12, 2012 17:56:25 GMT
what do people use avon skin so soft for and whats the problem with it? the skin so soft is like fly replant some reason the flies hate it hmmmmm i knew a girl that used pig oil on her welsh to make it look shiney at shows and never affected it maybe just your horse has sensitive skin and this product just doesnt agree with him.
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Post by fanfarefan on Apr 12, 2012 19:00:29 GMT
pig oil is for pigs ---- to help keep the skin insupple condition --- not made from pigs , its liquid parafin oil !!!! pig oil is for pigs !!!! use with great caution .
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Post by flo1 on Apr 23, 2012 16:26:41 GMT
Pig Oil is actually a mineral oil just the same as Baby Oil, but it's a thinner consistency and doesn't contain perfumes. I've used it for years as a coat shiner when showing and never had a problem, but after reading some of the problems other forum users have had, I will think twice before using it in very hot sunny weather. Someone asked about Avone skin So Soft? it's used with good effect on ponies with mild sweet itch...it contains Benzyl Bezoate, but smells much nicer .
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Post by catherine1974 on May 29, 2012 7:58:44 GMT
Have found the Avon pink bottle skin so soft to be the most effective product to keep away biting bugs, out of interest does anyone recommend anything else that works too?
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Post by aphrodite on May 29, 2012 9:30:14 GMT
Have used SSS often and its super to keep away the itches. Would never use any oil based products in the sun though, as you all say, 'we are cooking them'. Even at shows I would use the baby oil cautiously if it was really hot.
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Post by kayjayem on May 29, 2012 18:46:29 GMT
If you want to use oil for shows in the sun use Hawain Tropic suntan oil(for humans)! Sun protection and smells gorgeous. Cheap as chips from Home Bargains if you have one near you.
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Post by watchbank on May 29, 2012 19:12:11 GMT
Keep away from it, we had a pony last year whos tail completley fell out and the only thing we ever used that wasnt meant for ponies was pig oil, it caused soreness to others also. Since we havent used it we have been fine
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Post by showingfanatic on May 29, 2012 19:17:50 GMT
I have used pig oil on show ponies and welsh in manes and tails for shows, and bath in water with dilute pig oil for shine the night before and have never had any problems...
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Post by watchbank on May 29, 2012 19:37:35 GMT
Its when the sun gets on it, we put 1 cap in a bucket of water and it still made his tail sore
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Post by Kaseyleigh on May 30, 2012 3:55:37 GMT
Ye i would never put pig oil on in summer its actually meant for feathered horses to help grow and maintain mane and feather i use on all my traditionals all through winter to stop there feathers burning off and it acts as a good mud guard too!!
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Post by amumwithapony on May 30, 2012 5:47:13 GMT
Who on earth puts an oil on an animal turned out when we have had the conditions we have had over the last 2 weeks?
Next time you want to put something on your ponies skin try it on the end of your nose first and then stand out in the sun for 10 hours. If your nose burns then don't put it on your pony.
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Post by Kaseyleigh on May 30, 2012 19:37:20 GMT
Who on earth puts an oil on an animal turned out when we have had the conditions we have had over the last 2 weeks? Next time you want to put something on your ponies skin try it on the end of your nose first and then stand out in the sun for 10 hours. If your nose burns then don't put it on your pony. I agree its like you going in the sun with baby oil on your going to cook thats why it should only be used in the winter not summer find an alternative for the summer.
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Post by boots & saddles on Jun 2, 2012 9:29:32 GMT
im really confused now, pig oil is designed to prevent sun burn on pigs, i use on all my horse various types or breeds for various reasons and never had a problem, they go out in the field in the baking sun and never have they burnt, am i just lucky or have some peoples makes of oil got something else in maybe, ive use for show shine, mites etc have welshie and traditional and none have never burnt, only recently ive use it on my mates coloured show cob in all ths sun we have been having and his fetlocks are fine, infact my own colured had crackes and sores in them before i started using pig oil since ive been using it its gone completley.
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Post by Georgiemacg on Apr 29, 2015 9:34:43 GMT
What is the best thing for keeping a mares tail brushable? A mare that consistently pees in it leaving it permanently sticky. I wa thinking maybe of pig oil?!? Until reading these posts. ?
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Post by livtom2 on Apr 29, 2015 11:33:11 GMT
keep it plaited and in a tail bag all the time
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Post by robrocks on May 2, 2015 7:49:09 GMT
I've been using it in one if mines feathers. He's in during the day and out at night to stop problems with sun. Last week I did out it on his mane but shan't be doing that again!i shall also take care not to rub it into his fetlocks and try to have it just on the feathers as I feel it has helped them.
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Post by sageandonionagain on May 5, 2015 8:33:38 GMT
So sorry this has happened to your horse and many thanks for putting up the warning for others.
In my opinion nothing other than tested equine products should be used on horses, that includes pig oil, skin so soft etc., etc. Of course you will occasionally get the horse that reacts badly to an equine product and that is unfortunate. In these comparatively rare cases the owner is not at fault but if you put non equine lotions and potions on a horse and he has a bad reaction, that absolutely is down to the owner. That isn't an accusation directed at OP, many people do it and they need to stop.
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