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Post by rabbit on Apr 25, 2012 9:28:14 GMT
i also think this is unacceptable, HOWEVER, and i will probably get shot down in flames for this, what about the foals that are shown up and down the country here throughout the season chasing cuddy qualifiers? they also do not have a natural life, - plaited, rugged,trimmed, taught to trot up, taken the other end of,often a large ring, away from their mothers, stood on transport for many hours waiting for their classes and often , horrendously long days if involved in a championship, this is also very unnatural and certainly does not make for a quiet quality start to life  hoys is a very stressful situation for a foal if the owner qualifies the mare for the cuddy. i have seen many foals behave very badly through stress and throw themselves backwards , ending up on the floor! abuse happens everywhere unfortunately  |
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Post by semperfi on Apr 25, 2012 11:35:33 GMT
i also think this is unacceptable, HOWEVER, and i will probably get shot down in flames for this, what about the foals that are shown up and down the country here throughout the season chasing cuddy qualifiers? they also do not have a natural life, - plaited, rugged,trimmed, taught to trot up, taken the other end of,often a large ring, away from their mothers, stood on transport for many hours waiting for their classes and often , horrendously long days if involved in a championship, this is also very unnatural and certainly does not make for a quiet quality start to life hoys is a very stressful situation for a foal if the owner qualifies the mare for the cuddy. i have seen many foals behave very badly through stress and throw themselves backwards , ending up on the floor! abuse happens everywhere unfortunately I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this! Having shown my foals in hand for several years, it is certainly not as bad as you are making out!! My foals are taught from a young age to lead of a headcollar (if only all babies were taught this, it would give them less issues later on in life!) They are NOT plaited, clipped, trimmed etc for the showring - very, very few are! Foals are shown completely natural, as that is how the judges like to see them! They are NOT taught to trot up - they simply follow mum around the ring, and it is very rare for the judge to see them trot up on their own. They have a leather headcollar on, no bit. They follow their mums around the ring, with someone holding onto the foal for safety. Often we purchase a stable for the day, so they get to go back to their stable and have a good sleep, or they are loose in the lorry/trailer, with plenty of food and water. NONE of my foals have every been stressed out attending shows - yes they can prance in the ring, but through exhuberance rather than stress! It is a great life experience for them, getting out, seeing the world - and makes them much easier to deal with in later life. If I had a foal that got stressed out at a show, I would not take them again, but so far, they all seem to enjoy it - lots of interesting sights and sounds, and believe it or not, babies are inquisitive and like the stimulation. |
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Post by qbc on Apr 25, 2012 11:46:01 GMT
Maybe you show foals like this, but I have seen many babies, plaited and trimmed and it is obvious that they have had some ring training rather than just follow mum.
I agree one or two shows can be good for them to see the world, but some people do drag them out and about all over the place.
The TGCA only allows showing of foals at their championship show for this reason. They must also have no trimming whatsoever.
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Post by rabbit on Apr 25, 2012 17:07:34 GMT
i never mentioned 'prancing round the ring' i said threw themselves on the floor, and i have seen many!! plaited and unplaited!! i have seen foals rear, strike out and turn and kick handlers, all the signs of stress and fear!! so i stand by what i say  |
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Post by stormyskies on Apr 25, 2012 17:14:01 GMT
I think the major difference between that bizarre comparison is that foals shown in hand with their mums don't have a whopping great saddle and smug woman sitting on their backs
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Post by hursty100 on Apr 25, 2012 18:57:53 GMT
what a f**king idiot!
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Post by dazycutter on Apr 25, 2012 19:18:00 GMT
totally unacceptable - those poor babies.....why are people in such a rush.. let them be babies and grow up as nature intended. as for showing foals/youngsters.... well, I have seen good and bad, so we wont go into that..  |
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Post by flee on Apr 25, 2012 20:03:22 GMT
Absolutely lost for words ?
Then let me give you one of mine .
How about KNOB .
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Post by piaffe on Apr 25, 2012 20:28:20 GMT
that poor baby, it should be playing in the field enjoying the grass and sun. It makes my heat heavy to see such things. How can anyone think this is ok?
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Post by sammyceeee on Apr 25, 2012 21:52:10 GMT
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Post by Ziggy on Apr 28, 2012 16:23:22 GMT
Pictures made me feel sick poor, poor baby!
However I do sort of agree with what Minkara said. saw a hunter foal at Norfolk show last year doing exactly what she was describing, it threw itself backwards, thank goodness it did not hurt itself, really upset me.
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Post by sophiea on May 5, 2012 8:22:14 GMT
god this is terrible!
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Post by cavalierthegypsycob on Jun 4, 2018 22:50:37 GMT
Poor little guy! Sadly this happens to tons of horses *coughs* racehorses * cough* |
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Post by gillwales on Jun 5, 2018 8:41:34 GMT
i also think this is unacceptable, HOWEVER, and i will probably get shot down in flames for this, what about the foals that are shown up and down the country here throughout the season chasing cuddy qualifiers? they also do not have a natural life, - plaited, rugged,trimmed, taught to trot up, taken the other end of,often a large ring, away from their mothers, stood on transport for many hours waiting for their classes and often , horrendously long days if involved in a championship, this is also very unnatural and certainly does not make for a quiet quality start to life hoys is a very stressful situation for a foal if the owner qualifies the mare for the cuddy. i have seen many foals behave very badly through stress and throw themselves backwards , ending up on the floor! abuse happens everywhere unfortunately The foals you see misbehaving have not been handled correctly. I used to show my foals, later in the season they might be plaited, it depended on what suited them. They were handled and taught to lead from birth. They went out daily and played with their mates and the mums gossiped around the water cooler! My show mares and foals had my parents garden, huge! And they would enjoy the fuss made of them and tea and biscuits at 11. They saw cars come and go, washing on the line and had the dogs in and out. 2 foals did some exploring and ended up in the kitchen! Thy had wonderful life, petted and cosseted, lovely big beds to sleep in and the best of everything. They loved their parties and would often look bemused at other foals when they misbehaved those that did not enjoy it would be turned out as they would not benefit from being shown, and unlikely to make good show ponies at the end of the day. They were well handled with their feet trimmed and happy to load and be travelled. These foals ended up being the ponies that never batted an eye at anything, could take all in their stride and made safe mounts for their riders. They used to do about 6 shows with their Mum's. You may think this was cruel but I do not. |
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