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Post by Chelsea on Jul 26, 2012 19:19:17 GMT
What breeding have small, medium and heavyweight hunters usually have? What gives them their bone, is it Irish draughts? Some of them look so chunky!
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Post by patchworklilly on Jul 26, 2012 21:25:42 GMT
Iv just had a foal he'l be 10 wks old this saturday..his dam is a mediumweight cob sire is the same but with quite a lot of bone..my foal has a lot of bone and huge shoulders im thinking he will make a med/heavy weight cob but he's a super stamp..mother's breeding is irish draught/cob.. sire's breeding is cob/hanovarian so quite a mixture...
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Post by dappledgreypony on Jul 26, 2012 22:11:19 GMT
My 15.2 show hunter is an Irish Draft x Warmblood (Hanovarian), so he has the bone & the movement. He's super. He goes in for the medium at the mo, but once filled out, he'll probably do heavy. Hope this helps, DGP
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Post by Chelsea on Jul 27, 2012 9:32:24 GMT
Iv just had a foal he'l be 10 wks old this saturday..his dam is a mediumweight cob sire is the same but with quite a lot of bone..my foal has a lot of bone and huge shoulders im thinking he will make a med/heavy weight cob but he's a super stamp..mother's breeding is irish draught/cob.. sire's breeding is cob/hanovarian so quite a mixture... Who is the stallion? Sounds yummy! My girl is also a cob x with a bit of draught in there!
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Post by sarahp on Jul 27, 2012 9:58:23 GMT
Traditionally it was TB, maybe with some ID thrown in for good measure. I think show cobs' breeding can be many and various, very difficult to actually breed on purpose to stay under height - although now we have Maxi ones to accommodate those overheight. Some pure Welsh Ds have been shown as show cobs all trimmed up, and there was a top class one bred D X ID.
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Post by misssmith6 on Aug 7, 2012 20:56:46 GMT
Our Show hunter is Irish Draught x warmblood, he has the most affectionate and lovely personality, just a complete dude to deal with and a pleasure to have around.
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Post by LucyHebditch on Aug 7, 2012 21:00:52 GMT
All of our hunters are TB x warmblood, tiny bit of plain cob thrown in from the warmblood (dam) side. Our small hunter is a dressage pony stallion x riding horse mare (tb x cob)
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Post by armada on Aug 7, 2012 22:15:10 GMT
Traditionally it was TB, maybe with some ID thrown in for good measure. I think show cobs' breeding can be many and various, very difficult to actually breed on purpose to stay under height - although now we have Maxi ones to accommodate those overheight. Some pure Welsh Ds have been shown as show cobs all trimmed up, and there was a top class one bred D X ID. I was always under the impression it was the other way round, ID with a bit of blood to lighten.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2012 6:24:27 GMT
Mines a standardbred to throw a spanner in the works lol. Technically and american thoroughbred but they do have a lot more bone and substance than thoroughbreds these days
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Post by sarahp on Aug 8, 2012 6:52:43 GMT
Probably depends on the weight of hunter required armada - but I know that some like a full TB if they can find one with enough substance.
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Post by tessy on Aug 8, 2012 7:21:02 GMT
Blood on bone usually. More wrap bloods are being used to add the movement that seems to be the trend at the moment. I think the ideal for a proper lightweight would be a full TB horse but from there on in some ID or ISH would be added to add bone and substance
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Post by misssmith6 on Aug 8, 2012 9:15:26 GMT
We also have a small hunter broodmare who is full tb! She's from a sprinting line and is quite bulky.
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Post by Chelsea on Aug 9, 2012 10:30:53 GMT
Thanks for all the replies, I wouldn't have thought there was that much TB in them!
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Post by ozzy1 on Aug 9, 2012 10:40:07 GMT
my heavy weight is wb/tb he has no draft in him. still 17.2hh with over 10"bone. strange how they turn out ah... one of his full brothers is a lovely riding horse.
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Post by hatman on Aug 10, 2012 3:09:23 GMT
I had a small hunter we bought from john and sue Rawlings who was a full TB her full brother LIttle Patch was 17 hh and won the cuddy at HOYS in hunter breeding . Just shows you never know what you are going to get as they were very different horses.
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Post by thecremellosociety on Aug 10, 2012 5:17:17 GMT
Best show cob i saw was an accident - suffolk punch stallion x 14hh arab x welsh mare !!!!!
Some of the top show hunter have a dash of shire in there to a few generations back, not to close though as shires are bred to be cow hocked for ploughing furrows so obiviously that not good if inherited ........
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Post by sarahp on Aug 10, 2012 17:16:59 GMT
I think many of us are used to watching racing and thinking TBs, without really thinking that those are aften youngsters, if on the flat, and in all cases very lean and fit!
Daughter had a wonderful 1/4 Clyde horse - with the Clyde head and hocks to prove it! That's the thing with crosses, you can't foresee what is going to turn up, full siblings can be completely different.
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Post by toby09 on Aug 10, 2012 20:59:28 GMT
I had a small hunter we bought from john and sue Rawlings who was a full TB her full brother LIttle Patch was 17 hh and won the cuddy at HOYS in hunter breeding . Just shows you never know what you are going to get as they were very different horses. What a small world! I used to ride and look after the dam, Madam Constance when she was point to pointing for her breeder and she was a right handful and a miserable cow TBH; qualifying was interesting to say the least but she did teach me to stick on a spinner! There was another brother to L Patch I think called Wherehego or something like that who was also very successful in hand for the Rawdings. I met John once and asked him about Connie; his words were "she's the biggest bit*h out but she produces cracking stock!" They even had to dope her to plait her (she was always good in the stable except for hating being clipped) but she was Champion Broodmare at more county shows than you can think of; John had found her out hunting one day apparently.
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