woldse
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Post by woldse on Aug 17, 2012 7:22:21 GMT
I was told I had lovely pony we did a lovely show the pony has lovely manners and came almost last.......,the judge asked the jockeys age she said 8! The Judge said OH last year lead rein are you not off the lead yet. She does ride off the lead but it's her first year showing and wanted to break her in gently as she is only 8!!!! When given the rosette judge told the jockey she was too old! And her rising trot was too good?  She went in fr was told she do better when she is older and that the pony had gone beautifully ( alot better than most) and she was last! It was the same judge!!! If judges don't want 8year olds on lr change the frecking rules! |
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Post by thecremellosociety on Aug 17, 2012 8:27:58 GMT
my daugter at 6 looked out of place in LR as she was tall, but the childs age shouldnt matter if they are eligible they should be allowed in x
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Post by gillwales on Aug 17, 2012 8:54:18 GMT
I personally think many children in lead-rein classes are far too young, the majority, though of course not all, are there because it is what the parents want to go to shows rather than the children themselves. I would like to see older children, maybe up to the age of 10 being allowed a one off season on the lead-rein to encourage beginners, and the same for "first ridden" with classification stating a pony suitable for a beginner. So the emphasis should be on manners, this would be a wonderful class for the old schoolmasters.
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Post by njh1305 on Aug 17, 2012 19:18:12 GMT
we was told our lr pony had to much of a chunky chest and needs more non ridden work which goes to show..do judges know what they are talking about? our pony gets ridden by my 5 year old sister twice a week on the lunge and is lunged 5 times a week 3 times without my sister.
she has a handfull off chaff morning and night and is turned out in a small grass paddock, its the way my pony is built! old stamp of an a!
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Post by gillwales on Aug 17, 2012 19:20:28 GMT
if it is chunky why not aim for hunter pony lead rein classes, it would give your child longer in the class
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Post by njh1305 on Aug 17, 2012 19:42:18 GMT
it was in the lead rein m&m class we was told our section a is too chunky?
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Post by gillwales on Aug 17, 2012 19:45:31 GMT
so sorry, thought it was show pony
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Post by njh1305 on Aug 17, 2012 19:53:03 GMT
its ok this is her  |
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Post by gillwales on Aug 17, 2012 20:02:06 GMT
nice little pony, get out the black book and put a cross by the judges name!
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Post by gillwales on Aug 17, 2012 20:03:20 GMT
will add that the pony has plenty of scope so should do other jobs too.... much more useful that one that wont
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Post by yobswithcobs on Aug 17, 2012 20:09:02 GMT
your pony and little jockey look just fine for a lead rein class. Just put it down to a bit of poor judging and some bad luck, and take it as a compliment the judge said her riding was too good! Having said that, its so frustrating when all the effort of going to a show is wasted! Beautiful little pair though, good luck for next time x
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Post by njh1305 on Aug 17, 2012 20:23:11 GMT
thank you ever so much we love her so much she looks after my sister so well & shes only just been backed!
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Post by rubydoo on Aug 17, 2012 20:31:46 GMT
I agree a lot of LR jockies are tiny maybe that's what judge was expecting and felt your jocky was more than competant to be off the lead ? . My daughter is 7 1/2 and is just about to start LR showing I think it gives kids the confidence in the ring before gong it alone .
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Post by kayjayem on Aug 17, 2012 21:45:24 GMT
NJH your pony and jockey are lovely and if anyone doesn't like them put it down to experience and personal preference and don't show under them again. I'm sure there will many more who love them.
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Post by amumwithapony on Aug 18, 2012 7:57:20 GMT
NJH hows your pony bred? He/she looks just like my 5 year old lol.
We did 1 L/r show with my now 8 year old, 2 seasons ago. She didn't enjoy it so we haven't bothered again! I think in hand classes are a lovely way for the littleys to have an introduction to showing classes, then look for local shows where they can have a helper in if required when shes first off the L/R.
Many smaller shows now do FYFR type classes, or the T and T classes shouldn't require a show or anything. Also check with the secretary about ages of competing in l/r classes. Some local/RC level shows allow slighty older children to be on the lead.
Hopefully my daughter will want to do some ridden classes next year and we will be looking at doing inhand classes for the first couple of shows and chucking the tack on and letting her have a little wonder around the show ground to start with.
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Post by njh1305 on Aug 18, 2012 11:39:40 GMT
Thank you for your reassuring comments she is Bronyceod cinders out of dyfed curtsey & by nicton harlequin xx
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Post by parsnip on Aug 19, 2012 8:30:28 GMT
Lovely pony & to me your child looks fine for LR! We had the same issue with my daughter when she was on the lead - very tall and leggy for her age and smaller but older kids always placed above her. The pony should be suitable for a child to ride on the lead - the jockey's legs shouldn't matter! X
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Post by Ziggy on Aug 19, 2012 15:51:00 GMT
My daughter did a couple of LR classes recently. now I totally accept that her riding needs to be improved and when (and if!!!!) we find the right pony we will practice, practice, practice to improve as it broke my heart to see her right down the end of the line. we have fab lady lined up to give her lessons too so i am sure that will help. Do feel that perhaps i was expecting too much of her and that she was not truly ring ready. She enjoyed herself anyway! Put it all down to experience.
However she is also 8 but realistically her ability is that of a 5/6 year old at present as she has not had the chance to ride very much. She is also relatively tall for her age
I hope to start her off doing LR next year although she will be coming up to 9 as no way on this earth will she be ready for FR. I can totally see the same happening to us. Judge will no doubt say that at nearly 9 she should be off Lead but for her first season showing, no way!!!.
I completely accept that the rider (small or bigger) can have an effect on the ponies way of going but as she was fortunate to be riding two very beautiful ponies who I truly dont think they should have been placed where they were. in one class the confimation judge even came up to the owner and apologised that the pony was placed where it was! Feel incredibly guilty that might have been down to my daughters riding but we WILL improve!
So Woldse if you do discover the elusive secret can you tell me what we need to do for next year as at the moment feel i might stick to local shows for a couple of years until she can ride confidently off the lead.
njh I love your little pony!
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Post by prettyreckless on Oct 27, 2012 19:16:01 GMT
i give up.. my son is 8 and we just never get it right...
he has the riding ability also of a 5/6 year old.. he has adhd and its hard to make things stick in his head..
maybe they should split lead rein classes up for the older children.. ??
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Post by nia2311 on Oct 27, 2012 19:27:56 GMT
The answer is - no-one knows what LR judges want, so just have a bash and do your best!
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Post by prettyreckless on Oct 27, 2012 19:31:31 GMT
That's pretty much what we do.. It's A fun day out with the ponies .. Plus the other half takes great delight in winding me up in my outfit lol
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Post by smartgus on Oct 27, 2012 19:40:05 GMT
i fill it dont matter wot age the child is its a LR pony it is to do a job. it might just be that u diddent ride your pony in frist like lots off ponys these days. u look fab keep up your gd work and put a big x by the judges name
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Post by nia2311 on Oct 27, 2012 19:42:00 GMT
That's pretty much what we do.. It's A fun day out with the ponies .. Plus the other half takes great delight in winding me up in my outfit lol I like your outfit, I know some posters <ahem> were less enthusiastic ;D |
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Post by shelliewilson on Oct 27, 2012 19:49:19 GMT
Children's riding is not what is supposed to being judged in lead rein (correct me if I am wrong) its about the pony being a good child's pony etc, I only say that because we regularly win or get a high placing and my daughter is 3 and bobbles around and that's never affected her placing before??? I've even seen a lead rein jockey bobbling around at hoys so it's defo not the riding that got him there???
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Post by shelliewilson on Oct 27, 2012 19:50:51 GMT
Ps I also have heard about judges not liking ponies that are too chunky in lead rein- don't know why though as a good child's pony is a goods child's pony so it's ridiculous!!!
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Post by prettyreckless on Oct 27, 2012 20:05:49 GMT
That's pretty much what we do.. It's A fun day out with the ponies .. Plus the other half takes great delight in winding me up in my outfit lol I like your outfit, I know some posters <ahem> were less enthusiastic ;D Haha it's funny I got some cracking looks at the classic last month  |
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Post by nia2311 on Oct 27, 2012 20:07:55 GMT
I've got it!!!!! LR is just in-hand with a child on top. There. What do you all think?!
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Post by prettyreckless on Oct 27, 2012 20:12:46 GMT
Haha nai think you bob on there  if only eh.... Shellies right though that's what they should look at.. And shorty is bootiful I just don't care enough tbh we have fun that's all we go for |
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Post by gobby on Oct 27, 2012 20:17:58 GMT
I think lead rein classes should all be about manners (of child,parent and pony) and thats what i tend to go on when im judging. As for ponies being too chunky in an m&m class,surely they are just true to type???
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Post by madmichelled on Oct 28, 2012 20:58:27 GMT
looks nice pony lovely to see a good old fashioned eggbutt snaffle toooo not a wilkie or any other leverage one!!!!!! good luck ;D
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She went in fr was told she do better when she is older and that the pony had gone beautifully ( alot better than most) and she was last! It was the same judge!!!
if only eh....