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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 12:25:45 GMT
Post by Gee Gee on Jun 11, 2007 12:25:45 GMT
Does anyone know who got the HOYS M&M WHP tickets Please
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 12:31:40 GMT
Post by middle height on Jun 11, 2007 12:31:40 GMT
heard that silver fox qualified in the middle height section.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 12:47:28 GMT
Post by FRLR on Jun 11, 2007 12:47:28 GMT
I also heard that the marking system for the HOYS FR was bizarre and a number of FR kids were upset by the final result - why was there any reason to redo the marks when it was just a case of collating the two sections - also the first section of results were not available for the competitors to look at - quite unusual
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 12:55:50 GMT
Post by Nicki on Jun 11, 2007 12:55:50 GMT
HOYS Working Hunter 122cms was won by Moortown Honeyman and well deserved jumped a good round and only 4 clears over a tough course including a double of water trays!!! and over these were stiles, great to see a testing course for the ponies and to get 1 down was going well!!
Middle height was won by a 13.2 connie and larges do not know.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 15:41:01 GMT
Post by Well done on Jun 11, 2007 15:41:01 GMT
Well done to Delami Destiny taking the Native breed Supreme ridden.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 16:08:48 GMT
Post by Connies on Jun 11, 2007 16:08:48 GMT
nffan,3rd in the Nf/Connie secton was a bay new forest called Blackwell Sea Breeze. He went beautifully and really stood out!!
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 17:46:27 GMT
Post by First Ridden on Jun 11, 2007 17:46:27 GMT
How can you have two sets of marks for the first riddens and did the exhibitors see these? Who were the judges to make such a mess of things.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 18:29:57 GMT
Post by Unbelieveable on Jun 11, 2007 18:29:57 GMT
Not sure of judges as only heard through the grapevine BUT I believe HOYS only allow one set of marks not two!!! and that the two sections should have been put together as they do at other shows where classes are big.
How on earth can Springborne Camelot be top of one section above Red Ember then end up fifth!! - am sure there will be more said about this!!
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sky
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 19:05:29 GMT
Post by sky on Jun 11, 2007 19:05:29 GMT
mrs j maclnnes and mrs h brooks judged the hoys first ridden very strange.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 19:15:05 GMT
Post by first ridden on Jun 11, 2007 19:15:05 GMT
J Mc is an experienced judge don't know about SB think she has only been on the nps panel a short while. What a mess.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 20:03:13 GMT
Post by mollydog on Jun 11, 2007 20:03:13 GMT
How about the M&M HOYS Lead Rein, was this fairly judged? I heard it was predictable.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 21:07:06 GMT
Post by Telegraph on Jun 11, 2007 21:07:06 GMT
J Mc is an experienced judge don't know about SB think she has only been on the nps panel a short while. What a mess. Really Mrs Mc judging was appauling in the Olympia classes, talk about doing your own thing.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 21:34:10 GMT
Post by Connies on Jun 11, 2007 21:34:10 GMT
She put a pony forward to her Olympia Championship that did a hollow show when others went well and the pony second wrong legged and throws legs around!!! If they are the type of ponies she wants to represent her at Olympia then she is mad!!! She was a disgrace IMO!!!
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yes
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 21:36:51 GMT
Post by yes on Jun 11, 2007 21:36:51 GMT
the first ridden was judged in a very strange way but if you think about it, it was a very sensible way the class was split in two as there were too many in the ring and they were placed to start with, and marks given for both sections, then when top 5 from each back in the judges wanted to assess the class as a whole and marks done again on the show, and some were different if ponies did not go as well but if a true first ridden pony it should have gone as well the second time as the first so marks may differ, the marks for both sections were on the board to see. as for springbourne camalot in first in the first section and dropped to fifth maybe show mark was not good enough to win or may be did not like it stripped so comformation mark not good enough, the only fault about the class is that it done to thoroughly SB wanted to make sure she got it all right, was the finale line up wrong if so why, just because they had thier way of doing it, and re the l/r the winner, the winner was a lovely pony, went well the winner on the day no hidden agender to be seen. If you did not like the judges remember not to go under them again do not whing about it.
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EANPS
Jun 11, 2007 21:54:39 GMT
Post by Rude on Jun 11, 2007 21:54:39 GMT
She put a pony forward to her Olympia Championship that did a hollow show when others went well and the pony second wrong legged and throws legs around!!! If they are the type of ponies she wants to represent her at Olympia then she is mad!!! She was a disgrace IMO!!!Connies did you by any chance enter the olympia class and didnt do well??? Or was a friend of yours entered because you have been so rude! Do you not think the Highland was worthy of an olympia ticket??? j Mac is a very knowledgable respected judge and the lovely hipo she put through will do very well at olympia imo. This pony also won its BREED class under a different judge and then went on to take reserve champion UNDER ANOTHER JUDGE!! Connies YOU ARE A DISGRACE!!!
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 6:44:52 GMT
Post by jodphursandboots on Jun 12, 2007 6:44:52 GMT
the first ridden was judged in a very strange way but if you think about it, it was a very sensible way the class was split in two as there were too many in the ring and they were placed to start with, and marks given for both sections, then when top 5 from each back in the judges wanted to assess the class as a whole and marks done again on the show, and some were different if ponies did not go as well but if a true first ridden pony it should have gone as well the second time as the first so marks may differ, the marks for both sections were on the board to see. as for springbourne camalot in first in the first section and dropped to fifth maybe show mark was not good enough to win or may be did not like it stripped so comformation mark not good enough, the only fault about the class is that it done to thoroughly SB wanted to make sure she got it all right, was the finale line up wrong if so why, just because they had thier way of doing it, and re the l/r the winner, the winner was a lovely pony, went well the winner on the day no hidden agender to be seen. If you did not like the judges remember not to go under them again do not whing about it.
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 7:12:38 GMT
Post by dillis on Jun 12, 2007 7:12:38 GMT
In 2005 and 2006 we were lucky enough to qualify our pony for HOYS both times in classes split because of numbers and neither time did we have to re do shows, both times the top 5 or 6 ponies came back into the ring and were placed. If a judge marks consistently (as they should) then why on earth would you need to redo shows etc, I'm sure there are rules about this and I expect EANPS won't have heard the last of it!. As for Fifer winning the LR no agenda he is a fab pony and well done to them all on a fab weekend, with Mai qualifying and being champ on saturday and Fifer following suit on sunday!
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 10:23:14 GMT
Post by 4fun on Jun 12, 2007 10:23:14 GMT
I would be happy to be judged in a similar fashion, it must be very difficult to watch and mark such huge classes. Better to split and run two separate classes and then have a finale later. Too many classes end up being judged on the go round otherwise. We went to Cornwall, which too fielded a huge M&M FR class, after watching half the class you almost loose the will to live! I don't know how the judges do it.
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 16:37:44 GMT
Post by Connies on Jun 12, 2007 16:37:44 GMT
Yes "Rude" I did enter the Nf/Conn section and as I said in an above post "my pony was not the best on the day".... so I did not expect to win! I also said in an above post that I mentioned NOTHING about the Highland that went forward and what I was saying had NOTHING to do9 with the champion!! However, I did say that the judging of my section was dreadful. A pony goes perfectly, 3rd... a pony goes on the wrong leg, 2nd... a pony goes hollow, 1st!! and I also said IMO!!!! I'm sure others share this opinion too. So "rude" read the comments on other pages that people have agreed with before you comment:)
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 16:46:22 GMT
Post by Opinion on Jun 12, 2007 16:46:22 GMT
Maybe some other opinions would be good? Anyone else there who would like to comment?
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 16:50:30 GMT
Post by RESULTS on Jun 12, 2007 16:50:30 GMT
Don't get so upset whoever is sticking up for the highland. It's nice she qualified and good on her but I don't think many top class highlands were in the breed class at the show so winning that although good does not mean he is the best.
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 17:19:04 GMT
Post by telegraph on Jun 12, 2007 17:19:04 GMT
Don't get so upset whoever is sticking up for the highland. It's nice she qualified and good on her but I don't think many top class highlands were in the breed class at the show so winning that although good does not mean he is the best. I wouldnt be any good as a judge as i thought it was a dales or a fell
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 17:19:59 GMT
Post by telegraphe on Jun 12, 2007 17:19:59 GMT
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i think there was only 8 in the class
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 17:36:56 GMT
Post by ponygirl on Jun 12, 2007 17:36:56 GMT
Don't get so upset whoever is sticking up for the highland. It's nice she qualified and good on her but I don't think many top class highlands were in the breed class at the show so winning that although good does not mean he is the best. I wouldnt be any good as a judge as i thought it was a dales or a fell Well you definately wouldn't make a good judge Telegraph as if you were you'd know that Fellls and Dales don't come in liver chestnut and Results - it doesn't matter how many were in the class - for information you have to be in it to win it and you don't win championships or Olympia tickets by back biting from the ring side or making snide comments on the internet.
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dizzy
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 18:25:38 GMT
Post by dizzy on Jun 12, 2007 18:25:38 GMT
Well done to Kirsty, Hannah and ruadh great result. Im glad I was there to see it. As for the HOYS 1st ridden class it was a bit strange, we have been in split classes before but never had to redo the go round, the show and then strip again for the conformation . IMO it was harder for the 5 from the second section because they didnt get chance for a breather, they went straight back in again were as the 1st group of 5 had a good 45mins to recover and it was a very hot afternoon.
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 18:40:04 GMT
Post by Connies on Jun 12, 2007 18:40:04 GMT
A bit harsh "pony girl" How do you know "Telegraph" was not in it to win it!! This website is all about comments and opinions weather they are good or bad, everyone's is different!!! People need to remember that!
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 18:50:31 GMT
Post by telegraph on Jun 12, 2007 18:50:31 GMT
It actually looked bay
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 18:52:24 GMT
Post by telegraph on Jun 12, 2007 18:52:24 GMT
and they werent asked to gallop in the championship which I think very odd.
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 19:42:32 GMT
Post by Sunday on Jun 12, 2007 19:42:32 GMT
On Sunday I spoke to someone who told me a Bay Section C qualified for Olympia!!!
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EANPS
Jun 12, 2007 19:50:47 GMT
Post by bay on Jun 12, 2007 19:50:47 GMT
A sec c was reserve.
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