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Post by hollylupton on Mar 17, 2009 21:04:04 GMT
i have one too. On our yard tonight, we have this woman who is about 65? if you count that as an OAP. well she butts into eveything you do with yur horse and has to have a say in everything you do. She has a job on the yard as one of the workers but is NOT the yard manager. She thinks she is. Tonight my little friends pony was being really so naughty so i got on him, like i always do when hes naughty. started offf fine but then into canter he done a huge buck and i landed up on his neck,, then he took offf and threw me off. she was in the school at the time and when i got up she just went DID YOU SMACK HIM THEN? WHY DID YOU SMACK HIM? when i hadnt even smacked him, when i got hold of him i gave him a smack with the whip for being so naughty(im just glad it was me and not my friend because it wouldnt have badly knocked her confidence). then she started shouting at me saying i shouldnt smack him and all this! what did she expect me to do let him get away with it? then make him think he can do it again with the little girl? No chance. I just walked away from her because at the moment i have had enough of her! Then my naughty section D sarted playing up while i was taking him back to his stable, he dragged me right down my barn and past his stable so i smacked him with the leadrope and walked him back out the barn to make him do it properly, he then dragged me back through the barn so i smacked him again, this time she had too butt in and be like "WHAT AN EARTH ARE YOU DOING?" and all this. By this time i was so angry i burst into tears, she just annoys me so much. I hate being cheeky or disrespectful to my elders no matter who it is and i hate it when you see kids being cheeky to them but with her its just like im losing my rag. my friends mum told the yard owner about all this and like she said,, what did she expect me to do? let a very strong section d drag me around the barn with no control and not shout at him? i dont think so. hopefully she is getting talked to by the yard owner and maybe it will put her in her place!! she just aggravates me so much... hah rant over, sorry about that! x
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Post by fredaf on Mar 17, 2009 21:42:18 GMT
Hollylupton if you are getting dragged round by your pony/horse then I suggest you buy or borrow a be nice headcollar and see if this makes things easier for you. It is similiar to the Monty Roberts one and will be more useful than beating up you pony. These halters exert pressure on the pol and help you to stay in control. Your horse does not need to be hit in order to 'teach' it manners, firm and calm handling will get you much further on, and I suspect this is the message the 'OAP' was trying to get across to you. If someone smacked you everytime you did something they didn't approve of do you think it would make things better?
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Post by dun4u on Mar 17, 2009 21:54:44 GMT
I must say I agree with fredaf.
Sorry, hollylupton, I think you are creating a vicious circle when you reprimand your pony/horse in this manner. I think the lady on your yard was right but unfortunately she didn't approach you in the correct manner. She was, with you, a bit like you are with your pony/horse. Try to stay calm, explain things and go about it in the proper manner.
Try using one of those control halters and you may have a pleasant surprise. Same with the lady - ask her in a calm manner how she would deal with the situation. She probably has years more experience with handling horses and ponies and you may learn some useful advice.
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Post by hollylupton on Mar 17, 2009 22:47:26 GMT
im not beating up my pony :S at all. i love him and would never hurt him,, he actually never does this so it was a one off, so i dont really think one of them head collars is needed to be honest. im sure a small smack on the shoulder is not beating up my pony? for being naughty?:S oh well now im probably known for someone who beats up my pony^o) and its not like i proper punch him or smack him really hard like some people you see? what does everyone expect me to do pat him and let him get on with it? this has really upset me that some people do this, they just presume things. im sure you have both smacked your ponys before? for them being naugthy or something? and i think it is going abit ott saying "instead of beating up your pony" one small smack on the shoulder? i dont think so! i have seen so much worse!
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Post by hollylupton on Mar 17, 2009 23:08:53 GMT
and i really dont think that, when a pony has just bucked you off and nearly kicked you in the face due to naughtiness, that your not going to shout at him? because no matter what anyone thinks i would certainly shout at him but thats just my opinion isnt it.
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Post by hormonal on Mar 18, 2009 8:58:55 GMT
No-one is saying you beat ponies up, just that smacking them as you described, wasn't the most effective way to deal with the bad behaviour.
If you are going to smack a pony for, say, bucking, then it should happen the second the pony bucks (although I'm not suggesting that smacking a pony for bucking is always the right thing to do - you are better to find out the reason for bucking, ie freshness, bad saddle fit and rectify the problem). Obviously, you weren't in a position to do that in this instance, but smacking the pony after you came off and had caught the pony again will just confuse him. He doesn't realise you are hitting him for the buck, in fact, you were actually punishing him for being caught!
The same with the bargey horse, slapping him obviously wasn't working, so would have been better to put a bridle or a control halter on him, so you could could make him behave himself.
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Post by Milliesmum on Mar 18, 2009 9:04:48 GMT
Well said hormonal, any punishment should be instant otherwise the pony won't associate the punishment with the bad behaviour. Don't ever smack a pony when you catch him, or you won't catch him next time!
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Post by Ziggy on Mar 18, 2009 14:40:15 GMT
I always find that if I am out shopping that it is mostly the older people that stare and make comments if my children misbehave. Like someone else on this thread don't want to be rude about older peopleof course. Don't know if thier children never misbehaved or if it is because they have just forgotten!
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Post by hollylupton on Mar 18, 2009 15:57:52 GMT
"and will be more useful than beating up you pony" fredaf just said it there? oh well i will take into mind what some of you have said.
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Post by hormonal on Mar 18, 2009 21:59:26 GMT
Hollylupton, someone saying that using a control halter is more useful than beating your pony up, isn't the same thing as saying that YOU are beating your pony up. But glad to hear you are taking some of the points on board!
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