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Post by Toaster on Aug 29, 2015 19:38:54 GMT
Champ SP - Rotherwood Rainmaker
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Post by garnet on Aug 29, 2015 19:39:44 GMT
thanks for the brilliant updates toaster
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josie
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Post by josie on Aug 29, 2015 19:56:27 GMT
Thank you toaster
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Post by Toaster on Aug 29, 2015 20:21:50 GMT
Supreme of show - Sarah Parker - Menai Thomas
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Post by janetbushell on Aug 30, 2015 9:55:48 GMT
Does anyone know what area won/placed in the premier league whp? Also without naming names, as I have nothing against the individual, but its a shame that bsps done adhere to there own rules, as there was a pony who did the challenge class and the blue riband, when everyone else has had to choose out of the two... They were entered for both and competed in both. Not sure which ponies/which type of challenge classes but there were several ponies disqualified from the challenge (after they had competed) for this reason - not the fault of the BSPS - I'm afraid it is up to the exhibitor to know the rules when they enter
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Post by whip lass on Aug 30, 2015 10:33:40 GMT
very disappointed at bsps ,so many things that could have been improved on .the stables were not good,some of the catches on the doors on the wrong side so even if u hooked them back stuck out and could have injured the ponies. the roofs leaked on to the electrics ,that's if you were lucky to have lights .no seating out on grass rings ,no where for judges and stewards to grab quick cuppa between classes ,the tea and coffee was ok in the stewards huts but was not possible to get more than 3 people in the huts so no where for judges to sit and wait for their classes. no vet on call 24hrs .there should be vet cover 24hrs as ponies do fall ill or have accidents at night. hard to get a farrier not sure about times one was on call but none available when we wanted one. the toilets were a disgrace ,don't know about the showers as didn't use them.car park for judges and stewards was being used by anybody ,I personally saw several people park there while they used the showers.The whole show lacked a championship atmosphere . the stewards that I personally came in contact with where so helpful and kind to the children but sadly some of the judges weren't so thoughtful .perhaps if people would write in with their complaints ,and I heared loads of them,we may put the show back to being champion ship level.lets hope the people who run the show will listern
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Post by whip lass on Aug 30, 2015 10:37:05 GMT
meant to say nowhere on the grass rings for judges and stewards to get cuppa as if you only had 20 mins break was to far to go back to main buildings and nowhere for judges to sit and wait .
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Post by kateanne0 on Aug 30, 2015 11:02:40 GMT
Does anyone know what area won/placed in the premier league whp? Also without naming names, as I have nothing against the individual, but its a shame that bsps done adhere to there own rules, as there was a pony who did the challenge class and the blue riband, when everyone else has had to choose out of the two... They were entered for both and competed in both. Not sure which ponies/which type of challenge classes but there were several ponies disqualified from the challenge (after they had competed) for this reason - not the fault of the BSPS - I'm afraid it is up to the exhibitor to know the rules when they enter Sometimes there are so many rules to look at that people get confused about what they can or can't enter and perhaps have not deliberately set out to cheat. At least the exhibitors that didn't follow the rules were found out and disqualified after they had competed. It will be a lesson learned for them not to waste their hard earned cash.
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Post by m1hht on Aug 30, 2015 11:51:57 GMT
It was also put to me by someone was helping organise the show that the bsps should order more stables instead of looking after themselves so well ? Sharon Thomas was excellent with the kids entertainment We had a great time and we're lucky enough to be placed in every class and found all judges and stewards very helpful ?
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Post by messyjessy on Aug 30, 2015 13:19:11 GMT
Who is the photographer at the show ? Equinational
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Post by messyjessy on Aug 30, 2015 13:20:16 GMT
Connie and new forest results please Classic Security Challenge new forest and connemara - Buster Boy and Jess Mathieson
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Post by kateanne0 on Aug 30, 2015 13:51:50 GMT
It was also put to me by someone was helping organise the show that the bsps should order more stables instead of looking after themselves so well ? Sharon Thomas was excellent with the kids entertainment We had a great time and we're lucky enough to be placed in every class and found all judges and stewards very helpful ? Not sure I understand your thread How would ordering more stables relate to BSPA looking after themselves so well? Surely stable numbers would be bought-in for the numbers required and paid for accordingly? If there were not enough stables maybe competitors didn't order the stables required early enough? You found all judges and stewards very helpful, so why the question marks?
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Post by 3herbs on Aug 30, 2015 14:04:04 GMT
Would love someone to post results from the three competitions and heights in the international whp. Rather surprised that BSPS put so much time in to it but does not appear to have posted anything on who the teams were and the results on its website?
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Post by janetbushell on Aug 30, 2015 14:44:29 GMT
Would love someone to post results from the three competitions and heights in the international whp. Rather surprised that BSPS put so much time in to it but does not appear to have posted anything on who the teams were and the results on its website? Unfortunately I cannot accurately remember the results of the International teams, but I would just like to say what a great privilege it was to have judged the WHP phase. The standard of riding from the foreign teams was outstanding - particularly when they had only just met up with their loaned animals - they were a credit to their countries (as were the home international team members!) Graham Barclay's course was superb & beautifully dressed. The generosity of those BSPS members who loaned their animals was wonderful - & it was also a pleasure to see how keen everyone was for everyone to do well.
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Post by maddiesmum on Aug 30, 2015 15:47:54 GMT
That's good that the challenge/blue riband issue was corrected, shame it was afterwards though for everyone. It was an issue at Heritage Champs last year & probably will be again, that those who did the Challenge enter the Blue Riband too. It really is very clearly worded in this instance, so no excuse in my opinion.
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Post by m1hht on Aug 30, 2015 16:25:18 GMT
It was also put to me by someone was helping organise the show that the bsps should order more stables instead of looking after themselves so well ? Sharon Thomas was excellent with the kids entertainment We had a great time and we're lucky enough to be placed in every class and found all judges and stewards very helpful ? Not sure I understand your thread How would ordering more stables relate to BSPA looking after themselves so well? Surely stable numbers would be bought-in for the numbers required and paid for accordingly? If there were not enough stables maybe competitors didn't order the stables required early enough? You found all judges and stewards very helpful, so why the question marks? They were short of stables again and instead of looking after their members they are wining and dining themselves at our expense
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Post by kateanne0 on Aug 30, 2015 18:14:25 GMT
Has anyone asked why they were short of stables? I know there are time limits for putting in a request for stables. BSPS may very well 'have a few spares' in hand but why waste money ordering in more than they need? A different story if competitors have paid for a stable and then to find that there are none available for them; that then becomes mismanagement. This is why it is so important to check everything received in the show pack and that the competitor has received everything they ordered/paid for because there would still be time to contact BSPS office and advise of any errors. Wining and dining at our expense - the judges, stewards and BSPS staff do a good job behind the scenes, pre and post show, and, in many cases, with no, or very little, compensation. If we want to continue showing, we need judges and stewards, also, judges, stewards and other essential personnel, are away for a week, I think it is acceptable for them to be 'wined and dined' within limitations, which I'm sure is what happens; otherwise the show would start to run at a loss and it wouldn't look good on the balance sheet! I think all competitors have to be realistic and realise that some part of our show entry money will have to go towards looking after the essential staffing of the show, especially a championship show run over a week; even though many give their time free of charge, they still have to eat and sleep somewhere
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Post by Dipsy on Aug 30, 2015 19:34:39 GMT
Champ Heritage Ridden - Matthew Cooper with a highland The highland was Gemma and melanie stanfords brenbreac of croillia
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Post by m1hht on Aug 30, 2015 21:38:14 GMT
Has anyone asked why they were short of stables? I know there are time limits for putting in a request for stables. BSPS may very well 'have a few spares' in hand but why waste money ordering in more than they need? A different story if competitors have paid for a stable and then to find that there are none available for them; that then becomes mismanagement. This is why it is so important to check everything received in the show pack and that the competitor has received everything they ordered/paid for because there would still be time to contact BSPS office and advise of any errors. Wining and dining at our expense - the judges, stewards and BSPS staff do a good job behind the scenes, pre and post show, and, in many cases, with no, or very little, compensation. If we want to continue showing, we need judges and stewards, also, judges, stewards and other essential personnel, are away for a week, I think it is acceptable for them to be 'wined and dined' within limitations, which I'm sure is what happens; otherwise the show would start to run at a loss and it wouldn't look good on the balance sheet! I think all competitors have to be realistic and realise that some part of our show entry money will have to go towards looking after the essential staffing of the show, especially a championship show run over a week; even though many give their time free of charge, they still have to eat and sleep somewhere I'm aware of giving up time ect, and the expense of putting on this show. I was saying this as I was quite surprised that said person said this to me. My daughter had a great time and I will continue to attend in the future but people are becoming disillusioned from what I am reading and hearing so don't shoot the messenger
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Post by Philippa on Aug 31, 2015 3:58:39 GMT
I only went down on Thursday to watch and Saturday to compete in one class. On both days everything seemed to be run to military precision. Exceptionally well organised. The twice I went into the secretary's office I was met by lovely ladies who were more than helpful (especially on the 1st day when I got charged £5 to park as my membership cards live in my jacket pocket all season!!!!)
My only issue and I say it loosely was that I was charged the blanket fee of £10 for 24hr 1st aid cover when I entered 1 class. Obviously I wasn't overly offended as I paid it but it did make my 1 HOYS entry quite expensive at £58!!
Anyway, like I say I paid it and if I go all week next year it'll be a bargain at a tenner!!
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Post by thelwell on Aug 31, 2015 5:59:47 GMT
Yes Philippa your £10 would have been a bargain and a life saver if you had the misfortune of one young lady whose horse went vertical and fell over on top of her. The paramedics were with her in about 2 minutes arriving on a golf buggy and the ambulance in about 5 minutes. The care that they took in removing her off the ground was incredible. I hope she is recovering well in hospital. So never feel overcharged for first aid as next time it might me your child.
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Post by juleshp on Aug 31, 2015 6:40:31 GMT
I would just like to say a big thank you for an excellent show. After a bad start - flooded stables and ponies being in stables we were allocated, we ended up in an almost dry, small stable (thankfully our pony is only 14.2) it wasn't ideal but after travelling 3 hours to get there, we took the view that things could only get better! Apart from that issue the show was superbly run. Regular announcements regarding ring timings Friendly and very helpful stewards and generally excellent judging. We really enjoyed our 4 days there, met lovely people and had the added bonus of good placings and a reserve champion. Thank you bsps for an excellent show. We're already looking forward to the Heritage champs - just hope the rain stays away.
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Post by kateanne0 on Aug 31, 2015 11:54:45 GMT
[/quote]I'm aware of giving up time ect, and the expense of putting on this show. I was saying this as I was quite surprised that said person said this to me. My daughter had a great time and I will continue to attend in the future but people are becoming disillusioned from what I am reading and hearing so don't shoot the messenger [/quote] Apologies if you thought I was shooting the messenger as this isn't the case at all. Purely putting forward thoughts on the thread you created. Perhaps the said person who stated their thoughts to you may read through these threads and be enlightened
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Post by LB on Aug 31, 2015 12:59:35 GMT
Would love someone to post results from the three competitions and heights in the international whp. Rather surprised that BSPS put so much time in to it but does not appear to have posted anything on who the teams were and the results on its website? Dressage individuals 133 welsh girl on chestnut 143 Heidi coy 153 phillipa weir 158 Hannah Sloan Overall champion phillipa weir Dressage teams 1st wales 2nd Scotland 3rd England Whp individuals 133 Susie eddis beat the boss (England) 143 Jodie creighton derrygimbla Atlantic storm (NI) 153 phillipa weir freckleton Maximus (Scotland) 158 Alice Barnes carnsdale Beltane poppe (England) Overall champion phillipa weir Showjumping individuals 133 Ella dalton stockham secret envy (England) 143 new zeland boy on cre dubh boy 153 Susie Osborne rathbawn sushi (ireland) 158 emmie collier hearts on fire (England) Overall champion Susie Osborne Sj teams 1st England 2nd ireland 3rd new zeland Overall winners 133 Ella dalton 143 Heidi coy 153 phillipa weir 158 emmie collier Teams 1st England 2nd Scotland 3rd England
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Post by kateanne0 on Aug 31, 2015 14:04:19 GMT
Well done to all teams and individuals that competed. How wonderful to be representing your country via BSPS, well done
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Post by bbb on Aug 31, 2015 16:13:32 GMT
I came to watch on Friday and Saturday and I have to say I was absolutely disgusted to be charged a total of £10 to come in. I was an active BSPS member for over 10 years, very active within my area, my family sponsored classes etc and now I have moved on but wanted to come and watch friends I was not impressed at having to pay so much. One of the men on the gate even agreed it wasn't very fair! Very disappointed when the BSPS make so much money out of entries etc charging people to come and watch will simply deter them from coming and unfortunately with empty stands there is a lack of atmosphere!
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Post by sparkysunny on Aug 31, 2015 21:00:11 GMT
We had a great time and found everyone very helpful and friendly, from the guys on the gates to the ladies in the office. The tannoy announcements were clear and the timings were good.
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Post by janetbushell on Sept 1, 2015 6:24:27 GMT
I came to watch on Friday and Saturday and I have to say I was absolutely disgusted to be charged a total of £10 to come in. I was an active BSPS member for over 10 years, very active within my area, my family sponsored classes etc and now I have moved on but wanted to come and watch friends I was not impressed at having to pay so much. One of the men on the gate even agreed it wasn't very fair! Very disappointed when the BSPS make so much money out of entries etc charging people to come and watch will simply deter them from coming and unfortunately with empty stands there is a lack of atmosphere! bbb perhaps your disappointment at the £5 per day parking charge for non members was partly due to your not being aware of it before you came to the show. However, to put it in perspective, you were also covered by the paramedics should you unfortunately have needed their assistance, and were also entertained from 8am in the morning until the end of each evening performance and at a minimum of 12 hours per day with no ticket charge for car occupants I would suggest this was rather good value. As a comparison it costs me £2.40 per hour to park at our local shops car park, and although the parking was free it cost me £24.50 (for all children over 6 months as well as each adult) for a one hour In the Night Garden show in a tent on the previous Saturday.
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Post by Philippa on Sept 1, 2015 6:54:59 GMT
Yes Philippa your £10 would have been a bargain and a life saver if you had the misfortune of one young lady whose horse went vertical and fell over on top of her. The paramedics were with her in about 2 minutes arriving on a golf buggy and the ambulance in about 5 minutes. The care that they took in removing her off the ground was incredible. I hope she is recovering well in hospital. So never feel overcharged for first aid as next time it might me your child. And as I said, it was a very loose comment and I paid it. I do hope the young lady makes a full recovery and I hope it's never my child in that situation. I NEVER underestimate 1st aid cover - we run an independent ambulance company ourselves and provide event cover such as this. it is quite the norm for people to pay a few pounds for cover and I was merely commenting that it was perhaps a little steep to pay the same for 1 days cover as it is for the whole week.
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Post by nst0708 on Sept 2, 2015 12:55:04 GMT
We had another fantastic champs, I personally thought the security management team were fantastic in trying to help in a difficult situation with the weather. The BSPS Committee again ensured that all classes ran to time and announcements were regularly made which made life some what easier. I however, did notice a lack of entries compared to previous years and also noticed once again the general consensus of chat was that Judges were looking at who was stripping the ponies rather than the ponies themselves!. I however, thought most of the judging was correct and lovely to see judges pulling ponies up from the bottom of lines which deservedly respected a placing.
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