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Post by Trot-on on Jan 27, 2016 21:15:29 GMT
Sorry to be a bit crude but as the title says. Should i be worried that only one has dropped in a native pony. He is techincally a two year old however is a late foal.
Spoke to vet tonight although she agreed that only one has dropped. Should i be worried?
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Post by gillwales on Jan 28, 2016 10:48:17 GMT
No, I had a 12 hand pbw and he did not licence until he was 3. On the other hand I had a beautiful small hack who never dropped the one , he was gelded on the table and founf the missing testicle wrapped around his intestine, however that is very rare, such a shame as I had a list has long as your arm of people wanting to use him Give him time, I had a couple of big tb mares in a big field , my Vet advised me to turn him ( the 12 hand 2 year old ) out with them, it worked; oh and it taught him manners to boot! Best days work I ever did, he was extremely polite when he served his mares and asked very nicely if he could have the pleasure!!
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Post by sarahp on Jan 28, 2016 11:48:56 GMT
I've had them not licensable until 3yo too, some can come very late. True rigs like gw's hack are rare, my vet explained to me that often those not "dropped" are actually there and palpable by an expert but undeveloped so that you can have one normal sized one and one tiny that will develop normally later on.
My boys run out with the mares rather than cover in hand, and even mares their own size will teach them covering manners, but I wouldn't turn an inexperienced colt out with maiden mares, they need a polite experienced stallion to teach them. I've never done it with one with an undeveloped testicle though, what if he got a mare in foal and turned out to be unlicensable? gw's 12.2 wouldn't be able to reach the big mares unless they conveniently stood in a ditch for him!
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Post by oldschooler on Feb 3, 2016 19:22:20 GMT
I've had them not licensable until 3yo too, some can come very late. True rigs like gw's hack are rare, my vet explained to me that often those not "dropped" are actually there and palpable by an expert but undeveloped so that you can have one normal sized one and one tiny that will develop normally later on. My boys run out with the mares rather than cover in hand, and even mares their own size will teach them covering manners, but I wouldn't turn an inexperienced colt out with maiden mares, they need a polite experienced stallion to teach them. I've never done it with one with an undeveloped testicle though, what if he got a mare in foal and turned out to be unlicensable? gw's 12.2 wouldn't be able to reach the big mares unless they conveniently stood in a ditch for him! Sorry but the 2 I bred that had not dropped on one side by 2 years old did not drop. Both had to be operated on as the hidden testicle was up inside. Can be quite an expensive operation. I believe it depends exactly where the testicle is, some can be more difficult than others - and hence more expensive. One colt we tried on a mare but he did not get her in foal, I think they are less likely to get a mare in foal, however they still act like a stallion. There is still time for both sides to drop, but in my experience it did not happen, but I could have been unlucky. Good luck.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 3, 2016 20:29:03 GMT
You must have been unlucky to get two true rigs - I've never had one in 35 years of breeding. No need for apology - your experience is in no way contradictory to what I said, you just had bad luck - twice.
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Post by millwillow on Feb 9, 2016 12:18:50 GMT
I bought a Dartmoor colt yearling late last year with one testicle, I bought him to be our stallion for our mares, so had faith it would drop. So you can imagine me keep checking daily as I cant get him licensed without both descended. Anyway his second one dropped last month. I was told all sorts of twaddle that if it wasn't dropped at 2 it would never drop. I know ones that have been 4 before dropping.
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