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Post by Philippa on Jun 30, 2016 6:17:13 GMT
I'm looking for a pain relief for a pony with sore feet but don't want to use bute. What's the best 'natural' pain reliever people have found?? I'd prefer liquid or disolvable so it can be syringed rather than put in a feed.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by sjw87 on Jun 30, 2016 6:23:13 GMT
What's your reason for not wanting to use bute?
Devils claw can help but don't be fooled into thinking that a 'natural' product doesn't have any side effects. It's also a banned substance so doesn't really give any benefit above bute.
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Post by gillwales on Jun 30, 2016 10:21:47 GMT
there used to be a "varnish" you could apply to the soles of a horse's hoof to harden them, it might also be worth trying to get more growth for long term relief, cornicresine works well. Cold water hosing will give some tempory relief and also aid with the heal process.
Why is the pony suffering with sore feet?
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Post by Philippa on Jun 30, 2016 10:50:27 GMT
Thanks GW. He's very flat soled and has always been a bit pottery after having his feet done. I've had a set of fronts put on him and we feel that the laminitis he has had a bout of is more mechanical than feed induced. I wanted to know if there was anything I could give him to ease him while everything settles down other than bute or if I can give him something longer term.
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Post by gillwales on Jun 30, 2016 13:01:38 GMT
try the varnish, I used it years ago and my farrier was very impressed with it, it needs to be used sparingly and be careful appling it, sorry I cannot remember the name. The other thing you could consider is some stick on shoes rather than traditional ones. Log term pain relief does not work so well, our bodies become acustomed to it and therefore constantly needing something stronger, if you can find a "machanical" way tp deal with the matter then it will proberly work out better for the pony long term
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Post by Philippa on Jun 30, 2016 13:13:55 GMT
Thanks. I know he's had the varnish before. He's wondering what he's got on at the mo as he's not had shoes on before to my knowledge. He's doing good in them though and realising it doesn't hurt to put his feet down on the yard now.
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Post by sjw87 on Jun 30, 2016 14:08:29 GMT
Is it something like Keratex Hoof Hardener that you are thinking of Gill? Definitely worth a try in conjunction with the farrier.
As Gill rightly says, long term pain relief becomes less effective. For pain relief as an interim measure, I personally would use bute. Devils claw can vary in efficacy and does not really give any benefits over bute as side effects are similar and it's also banned for competition (although I know you wouldn't compete an equine requiring pain relief anyway).
There are some 'competition legal' bute substitutes available but they are usually aimed at easing the symptoms of arthritis rather than being a true pain killer so may not help as much in your situation.
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Post by kareen on Jun 30, 2016 15:18:36 GMT
In cases of bad hoof-soreness I use cotton and tape it to the sole with good old ducttape.
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Post by Philippa on Jun 30, 2016 18:44:51 GMT
Thanks all, he was quite sore this morning after his feet had gone from hot enough to fry eggs to stone cold last night. I was gutted this morning when we seemed to be back to hot & sore feet, however, I took him out for a walk in the arena and tonight ive gone and his feet are lots cooler and he is tip tapping round his stable quite amused by his new Jimmy Choos!!!!
I didnt really want to bute him up and mask the problem so im going to see how he goes and hopefully everything will settle down once hes got used to his new 'Choos'
And youre right sjw I wouldn't.
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Post by gillwales on Jun 30, 2016 19:18:57 GMT
Is it something like Keratex Hoof Hardener that you are thinking of Gill? Definitely worth a try in conjunction with the farrier. Sent from my SM-A300FU using proboards Yep that's the stuff Right an old fashioned remedy was to bed on damp peat, you cannot get peat these days but some of the alternative compost would work, damp it down and it should help the soreness and the heat. Make certain it is deep for it to give relief. The bonus is it will be great for your garden!
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Post by judyh on Jun 30, 2016 20:27:07 GMT
Keratex is good for hardening the sole and stopping wall breaking.
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Post by sarahp on Jul 1, 2016 5:39:54 GMT
And for long term help a diet suitable for strong healthy hoof horn growth is a good idea, although the new hoof will have to grow down from the coronet so this is not a quick fix. I always found a good quality balancer did the job for me anyway, but there are specialist ones available if you prefer.
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Post by Philippa on Jul 1, 2016 6:31:57 GMT
Thanks sarahp. I use quality feeds with a balancer anyway.
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Post by fanfarefan on Jul 3, 2016 12:49:16 GMT
morning Phillipa !!! ,,, i can sympathise ,, my old girl used to get foot sore after shoeing ,,, no laminitis involved though ,,, her problem was my old farrier used to hammer the nails in too hard , and then pinch them down very tightly ,, i used to have to leave at least a week before i could go to a show ,,,, anyway farrier dismissed , i them had a hammer shy horse ,,, new farrier then shod her cold for a few goes , and hammered as lightly as he could , and barely clenched the nails,,, job done ,,, or so we thought ,,, when the summer and hard ground appeared she went footy ,,, and the answer then was leather pads ,,, and that solved the problem,,, might be worth a try ,,,, i would definately use some Danilon ,, just to get rid of any immflamation, good luck sx
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Post by kateanne0 on Jul 13, 2016 21:58:21 GMT
I would definitely give the pony 2 or 3 days on Bute to relieve the pain. I have arthritis in my feet but don't always need medication but when the pain gets too much I need a few days of relief, guess the pony will feel the same way?
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Post by justliloldme on Jul 14, 2016 22:41:48 GMT
Not a balancer fan,i prefer veterinary powdered vitamin and mineral supplement with proper low calorie chaff (top chop lite) so many supposed lite chaff have hidden nasties, with freestep superfix, aloe juice - then they have a hay straw mixed in nets with the little one having soaked hay, and evening turnout, and nought else except what they get in the field overnight
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Post by Philippa on Jul 15, 2016 5:16:20 GMT
Thanks all, he's much happier now he's used to his shoes and everything has settled down lots. He still has the odd moment when he stands uneven on a pebble (don't we all! ) but other than that he's good.
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Post by sarahp on Jul 15, 2016 8:11:12 GMT
Glad to hear it Philippa.
justliloldme, we all have our preferences. My reasons for preferring balancers are that first, they normally contain good quality protein unlike a powdered vit/min supplement, and second, fed with chaff I'd worry about it falling through to the bottom of the bucket and not being eaten.
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