jnb
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Post by jnb on Oct 9, 2016 14:16:37 GMT
That's disgraceful, how can HOYS not run to their own timetable? Casino's team must be furious!
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Post by Toaster on Oct 9, 2016 14:17:27 GMT
Partbreds
9. Beiligaer Starlight Express 8. Braeglen Masterpiece 7. Sandbank Early Bird 6. Whiteleaze Aurora 5. Archwood Ballerina 4. Sycamore Candyman 3. Wilderness Early Bird 2. Banks wood Jaccaranda 1. Rotherwood Rainmaker
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Post by Toaster on Oct 9, 2016 14:18:55 GMT
Wonder what happened to Casino (Small RH winner)? I know Jayne Ross left the CHAPS NH before the lap of honour presumably to get on Casino to get to the RH Championship, this was around 14:20 and the RH championship was due in at 14:30so that should have been ok, did they go in early, I wonder? If so, what a shame The riding horse championship ran 15 mins early, so she must have missed it Surely not! I suppose it's one thing if they were all there ready but awful if they aren't!
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Post by CarolineNelson on Oct 9, 2016 14:24:29 GMT
Yet again the part bred class looks like a mixed height show pony class Grandstand media really need to start thinking how they can attract the various types of part bred ponies to enter the qualifiers, the class is quality and well done to all who made it but the class is definitely not representative of the ponies that it's open to Toaster, I'm usually in full agreement with you (and, as someone who, due to personal circumstances) could not attend HOYS this year the first time since 1966!!) am most grateful for your excellent HOYS reporting - plus HACK's and others, too. However, what else do you seek in the "Part-Bred" Class?? The Classification is really just as it states on the tin. As a previous, long-serving, very loyal Chairman of the NPS British Riding Pony Stud Book Committee (and having grown up with my unbelievably dedicated late mother in the same shoes before me), surely, all "Part-Breds" should look as such, go as such? I don't quite see your problem. Please explain your thoughts !!
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2016 14:30:35 GMT
Wonder what happened to Casino (Small RH winner)? I know Jayne Ross left the CHAPS NH before the lap of honour presumably to get on Casino to get to the RH Championship, this was around 14:20 and the RH championship was due in at 14:30so that should have been ok, did they go in early, I wonder? If so, what a shame The riding horse championship ran 15 mins early, so she must have missed it Oh what a shame, pity they didn't have a reserve jockey standing by
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2016 14:36:00 GMT
Partbreds 9. Beiligaer Starlight Express 8. Braeglen Masterpiece 7. Sandbank Early Bird 6. Whiteleaze Aurora 5. Archwood Ballerina 4. Sycamore Candyman 3. Wilderness Early Bird 2. Banks wood Jaccaranda 1. Rotherwood Rainmaker Thanks Toaster, not to be today! Looking for coloured in Championship next, winner of the first coloured class Cococabana and Harry Moore. Much appreciate your postings I'm in Switzerland (lucky me) visiting my son and having a rest from our own horses LOL
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Post by Toaster on Oct 9, 2016 14:40:15 GMT
Junior M&M in now - a great looking class - going to be an Interesting one!
Caroline I don't have much battery power left but in a nutshell I'd expect more variation - I wonder how many in there were part bred Connie or Dartmoor for example or what about the lovely partbred coloureds out there? and the insistence on navy jackets and coloured browbands for even the show hunter types simply doesn't help!
The class was opened up to more different Partbreds a couple of years ago but the final remains predictable
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Post by trends on Oct 9, 2016 14:53:07 GMT
Sadly as the owner of Casino she must have cut herself on the lap of honour and wasn't happy. We decided that it wouldn't be in her best interest to run her. She is very special to us.
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F1J4
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Post by F1J4 on Oct 9, 2016 15:00:39 GMT
The reasoning behind all wearing navy and browbands was to avoid any favouritism of one type over another (I think!)
The junior m&m is a class which needs reviewing - several of these ponies forward have been qualified by the first ridden children and now have their friends on them for this class, I can't really see the point.
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Ace
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Post by Ace on Oct 9, 2016 15:03:12 GMT
My opinion to jockeys is who ever qualifies it rides it and can only qualify one pony per class!
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2016 15:03:59 GMT
Sadly as the owner of Casino she must have cut herself on the lap of honour and wasn't happy. We decided that it wouldn't be in her best interest to run her. She is very special to us. Good decision putting the welfare of the horse first but heartbreaking.
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2016 15:08:12 GMT
My opinion to jockeys is who ever qualifies it rides it and can only qualify one pony per class! So, if you qualify 2 horses, in say coloureds, which has 4 sections and you are in top 2 in 2 sections, you can't have a spare jockey? I agree, usually it is the qualifying rider who goes in the Championship, sometimes there are extenuating circumstances, especially if a class runs ahead of scheduled time?
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2016 15:14:23 GMT
The reasoning behind all wearing navy and browbands was to avoid any favouritism of one type over another (I think!) The junior m&m is a class which needs reviewing - several of these ponies forward have been qualified by the first ridden children and now have their friends on them for this class, I can't really see the point. Do the children now riding remain within age category for the class? If not, they shouldn't be riding! However, it's a bit like a professional or well known face qualifying a friends pony and then owner takes over the ride?
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Post by Ace on Oct 9, 2016 15:20:28 GMT
The reasoning behind all wearing navy and browbands was to avoid any favouritism of one type over another (I think!) The junior m&m is a class which needs reviewing - several of these ponies forward have been qualified by the first ridden children and now have their friends on them for this class, I can't really see the point. Do the children now riding remain within age category for the class? If not, they shouldn't be riding! However, it's a bit like a professional or well known face qualifying a friends pony and then owner takes over the ride? No. Obviously a championship is different. I'm taking when one jockey qualifies 2/3/4 ponies or horses for one class. They can only ride one at the final! I wasn't on about championships. I was taking only about the class. They should ride the horse they qualify and not be aloud to qualify another pony for that class. Isn't that what the Olympia rule is or similar?
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Post by Toaster on Oct 9, 2016 15:28:14 GMT
Juniors
9. Briar Snowman 8. Pantycoed Silver Charm 7. Waxwing Painter 6. MALBY MAHYONG 5. gypsyville Flashman 4. Coppinshill Charisma 3. birkinbrook Juliet 2. Greenferns Bentley 1. Laithill Flute
Once again apologies for anything incorrect!
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Oct 9, 2016 15:29:18 GMT
Sadly as the owner of Casino she must have cut herself on the lap of honour and wasn't happy. We decided that it wouldn't be in her best interest to run her. She is very special to us. What bad luck, hope she is okay xx
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2016 15:30:26 GMT
Do the children now riding remain within age category for the class? If not, they shouldn't be riding! However, it's a bit like a professional or well known face qualifying a friends pony and then owner takes over the ride? No. Obviously a championship is different. I'm taking when one jockey qualifies 2/3/4 ponies or horses for one class. They can only ride one at the final! I wasn't on about championships. I was taking only about the class. They should ride the horse they qualify and not be aloud to qualify another pony for that class. Isn't that what the Olympia rule is or similar? Cross purposes. Sorry, I had thought you were meaning the spare jockey for the championship. I can see your point on the number of ponies a jockey qualifies but can only ride one.
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Post by thatboythatgirl on Oct 9, 2016 15:34:43 GMT
That's disgraceful, how can HOYS not run to their own timetable? Casino's team must be furious! They change in timetable was all announced early enough And the catalogue was different to the schedule anyway
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Post by overatdaknee on Oct 9, 2016 16:08:54 GMT
4th Coppinshill Charisma as Coppinshill Chaos sunning himself in the field- well done to all his connections and huge well done to the winner- what a Hoys you are having!
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Post by F1J4 on Oct 9, 2016 16:16:33 GMT
Just to add on from my previous post, well deserved winner today, well done to Kinvara!
The class would be better if large breeds were included for those taller children who have had to move up sooner - gives them a few more opportunities than just the opens with the adults.
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Post by gillwales on Oct 9, 2016 17:01:42 GMT
Wonder what happened to Casino (Small RH winner)? I know Jayne Ross left the CHAPS NH before the lap of honour presumably to get on Casino to get to the RH Championship, this was around 14:20 and the RH championship was due in at 14:30so that should have been ok, did they go in early, I wonder? If so, what a shame The riding horse championship ran 15 mins early, so she must have missed it Poor poor girl, she must have been deverstated
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Post by m1hht on Oct 9, 2016 17:02:46 GMT
For anyone who has Facebook FreeStep SuperFix put up a live feed of the preliminary pony supreme
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Post by maddie on Oct 9, 2016 17:38:41 GMT
Just a quickie can anyone confirm for me if Stourton president and briar snowman are both now geldings as in catalogue as stallions and did not think stallions allowed in junior m and m .
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Post by muggley on Oct 9, 2016 17:47:59 GMT
Briar Snowman is now a gelding yes.
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Post by amylou on Oct 9, 2016 17:56:44 GMT
Our cashel blue and alistair hood supreme horse
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Post by thatboythatgirl on Oct 9, 2016 18:10:43 GMT
Litton enterprise supreme pony
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Post by Toaster on Oct 9, 2016 18:20:49 GMT
4th Coppinshill Charisma as Coppinshill Chaos sunning himself in the field- well done to all his connections and huge well done to the winner- what a Hoys you are having! Thank you and sorry! I have amended my post so its accurate
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Post by kateanne0 on Oct 9, 2016 18:42:29 GMT
Well done to everyone that competed at HOYS and to our marvellous posters who kept us up to date with all the news as it happened.
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Post by ilovenatives on Oct 9, 2016 19:19:37 GMT
Well done to all at Hoys whatever your results . Have to agree with the posts above though about only qualifying one pony per class at Hoys ( even more so in the junior's which is meant to be about encouraging the junior's ). We don't do hoys qualifiers as a rule but it must be really disheartening when the same jockey wheels out one pony after another in the same section and takes the tickets as they obviously can only ride one at the final . The jockey who qualifies should be the one who rides at Hoys .
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Post by hairycobrider on Oct 9, 2016 21:21:27 GMT
Firstly thank you so much to everyone for all the fantastic updates - However I am a little lost with the Junior M & M only being open to Small Breeds - I queried this and they said they want to keep FR but it is for children not yet ready to compete with adults - how does my child fair from an age point of view she has until 31st Dec 2017 in FR but from a height point of view she is well out of the class - she is currently riding a 13hh Welsh Sec C - she would be to tall for a 13hh Welsh Sec B. Can someone please tell me I'm not the only one with a tall child !! Just wondered what other peoples thoughts are - given that RIHS accomodates juniors on smalls and large
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