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Post by dizzy on Feb 22, 2017 13:25:24 GMT
After much thought and consideration, i put my slightly spooky horse on a cool balancer + condition cube as recommended by the company i choose, just before the new year. My horse is now a quivering wreck, we have gone from being a little spooky to jumping out her skin at the slightest noise/movement even in her stable, I have spoken to the company of my concerns but they assure me there is nothing in there feed which would do this . Has anyone else ever noticed a considerable change in there horse since putting them on a balancer.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 22, 2017 15:18:01 GMT
It's not the cube is it? Many labelled conditioning have lots of cereals in, might be worth checking the bag label.
I've found that putting them on a balancer makes them look altogether healthier, brighter eyed and shinier with good skin and healthy hoof horn growth. I used to show my Ds on balancer and grass/hay, nothing else!
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Feb 22, 2017 17:45:39 GMT
I used to have a mare which when fed a certain balancer went spooky.
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Post by gillwales on Feb 22, 2017 20:03:46 GMT
I reported this on a different thread. I had a young TB who went nuts when the yard he was kept in changed the brand of cubes they fed, he came out if his stable bronking and landed in the water tank. In truth no firm is going to say that their product causes problems, however every animal will react differently. I would cut both products and look for a different route. This is the advantage of feeding straight graains, you will be able to work out which one causes the problems.
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Post by sjw87 on Feb 22, 2017 21:36:13 GMT
Numerous horses have a similar reaction to one of the big company balancers.
Swap to another brand (possibly something like opticare) and see how you get on.
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Post by waspblue on Feb 23, 2017 0:04:06 GMT
I too have experienced many horses losing their marbles on one balancer in particular. I work in a feed store, so the feedback I get is from genuine customers. Please message me if you would like any help or advice and if I can help, then I am more than happy to.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 23, 2017 8:05:00 GMT
Obviously a brand I haven't used, I hope the feedback went back to the manufactures. It's always possible for any horse to react badly to a certain ingredient, I talk in generalities on here. There will always be exceptions, and balancers shouldn't contain the usual suspects for fizzing them up. It's also possible that the odd animal may be so malnourished that provided with all essential micronutrients by the addition of a balancer to its diet it will discover its joie de vivre because it feels well, healthy and energetic for a change!
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Post by sarahp on Feb 23, 2017 8:07:24 GMT
For the OP - I'd suggest a diet trial when you omit each feed completely in turn for a short period and see what changes that produces in the horse's behaviour.
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Feb 23, 2017 8:49:19 GMT
Obviously a brand I haven't used, I hope the feedback went back to the manufactures. It's always possible for any horse to react badly to a certain ingredient, I talk in generalities on here. There will always be exceptions, and balancers shouldn't contain the usual suspects for fizzing them up. It's also possible that the odd animal may be so malnourished that provided with all essential micronutrients by the addition of a balancer to its diet it will discover its joie de vivre because it feels well, healthy and energetic for a change! Sarah - I think that is a little harsh - my horses are definitely not malnourished!! However, I had one mare which a particular balancer did not agree with - when she was fed another companies balancer she was absolutely fine. And yes, I did try to speak to the company in question, but it was dismissed!
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Post by sarahp on Feb 23, 2017 9:24:29 GMT
No offence intended, and as I said, I talk in generalities on here. By malnourished, to extrapolate, I meant one that may have an imbalance of nutrients, not undernourished which is completely different and maybe what you thought I meant?
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Post by kateanne0 on Feb 23, 2017 9:27:16 GMT
For the OP - I'd suggest a diet trial when you omit each feed completely in turn for a short period and see what changes that produces in the horse's behaviour. Very good advice sarahp. I would take away the cool cube first for at least two weeks. As others have said pony could just be full of life, spring is on it's way. A pony we had quite some time ago was on a laminitis trust recommended forage, it sent her barmy! Took her off the feed and she returned to her same calm temperament.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 23, 2017 9:38:55 GMT
Thanks, I try!
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Post by dizzy on Feb 23, 2017 11:33:21 GMT
Thank you all for your response, I have spoken to the company about my concern which they have dismissed, Having spent time googling this particular balancer there seems to be quite a few people who have also encountered a similar problem.It,s not the cube, she is not on enough to cause her any problem and she has been on the cube for 12months with no problem My horse has at no point been malnourished and has always been on a good balanced diet, so i don't believe she is just feeling well in herself. I will over the next couple of days take her off her balancer and start from there.
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Post by gillwales on Feb 23, 2017 14:30:05 GMT
it could be a reaction to the combination, however if she has had the nuts prior to you using tthe balancer without any effects then by deduction it must be the balancer that does not agree with your horse. Good luck
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Feb 23, 2017 19:31:37 GMT
I think it is a really interesting concept, the imbalance of nutrients - each pony we have is fed a balancer of sorts - I have one on an OAP balancer who has thrived on the balancers which sent one horse daft! In fact I have four different balancers in my feed room! Each one works for each individual, I also have one horse on straight alfa (she has ulcers and this works brilliantly for her) two on hi-fi lite and one just on a balancer - all get ad lib hay at mo and they have unrestricted turnout at the moment! Interestingly I have one little mare that I think I am going to have to alter her feed as her coat is not as good as the others - however, I am going to do a soil sample first because two years ago I had a critical iron imbalance in the soil and this little mare went the same. I confess SarahP I thought you meant undernourished as in starved, but I can see where you are coming from with regards to an imbalance!
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Post by dizzy on Mar 4, 2017 10:29:04 GMT
Thank you to everyone who commented on my post, my mare is now completely off the original balancer and onto another one. The difference already is unbelievable, were no longer jumping/spooking at every little noise movement etc and now far more aminable. Clearly the original balancer i bought did not agree with my mare and did the opposite to what it stated on the bag, however it would seem having googled the product and it's effect,s im not alone, sadly the company dismissed my claim when i called them to inform them of the effect there product had, had.
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Post by gillwales on Mar 6, 2017 20:13:07 GMT
So glad that you have solved the problem with your mare. I think the company who produced the one that caused the problems have a blinkered attitude. I would imagine that you are by no means the only person who has alerted them to the problem and they will be at pains to prevent any litigation.
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