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Post by frankyboy on Jul 11, 2017 17:48:21 GMT
Well after sending my pony away to be brought on by a reputable producer he has come back as high as a kite and utterly terrified of people .I strongly think he has been very sternly treated and is terrified in case anything else is going to happen to him .He was so good and relaxed before he went but now it is backward progress , any suggestions to help him and to calm him ..........................heartbroken is an understatement .
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Post by maxandpaddy on Jul 11, 2017 18:52:57 GMT
Time, patience and kindness...he'l come back to you. I sometimes think smaller folk - as in not big yards - put more time and patience in than bigger ones, but because they have a "name" we presume they're good...
Good luck xxx
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Post by frankyboy on Jul 11, 2017 19:14:48 GMT
oh thanks ,this was a small folk but ended up like this ! just cannot belief all my good work has been wasted not to mention the money that was spent sending pony away .
gutted xxxx
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Post by mady on Jul 11, 2017 20:16:19 GMT
I ditto this. I'm in the same situation but has come back unrideable I'm gutted too so I sympathise. They will come to but will take time unfortunately ☹️
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Post by piggie on Jul 12, 2017 14:53:00 GMT
Oh that's awful! Like others have said, I'm sure he'll come back to his old self with time. Could you PM the producer's name? I'm thinking about sending one of mine away but don't want this happening!
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Post by gillwales on Jul 12, 2017 19:53:00 GMT
I would always recommend going to look at a yard before sending away your horses / ponies. I have had some of mine on producers' yards. I can say that all of the ponies with Ron and Debbie Thomas are relaxed and happy in the stables. I had ponies at Kingvean Stud and they were well looked after and shown affection. I also had a horse with Robert Oliver, he was well cared for and all of the horses were happy there.
On the other hand I purchased a couple of ponies that came from a different yard, they were very nervous and took a long time to be relaxed, one I went and collected, all the ponies rushed to the back of their boxes if you approached them.
Turn your pony away for a while, just make a fuss with him, once he realises he is home and safe he will return to his former self.
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Post by brindlerainbow on Jul 13, 2017 9:04:24 GMT
Agree with GW, although there are a lot of people these days that win a few red rosettes at local shows which in their eyes makes them good enough to be a "producer". It doesn't. They don't have the knowledge or experience to do the job that they believe they are qualified to do. Producing animals for the show ring requires a skill that not many people genuinely have. As above, the Thomases are at the top of their game and RO is an absolute master at what he does.
Not worth spending money sending a pony to be produced by someone who doesn't know how to do the job properly.....
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Post by sarahp on Jul 13, 2017 11:17:09 GMT
If mine I'd turn him away at grass for a bit in familiar surroundings and a pony friend, with lots of attention from you who he knows. More questions than answers for the next step - first what was your object in sending him away? To be broken, further schooled or for the producer to show him for you? In the most general terms, if you have worked with him at home yourself I'd start at the beginning again yourself when you felt he was relaxed again and ready for it, or find someone who would come in to help with him and you rather than send him away again. Did you breed him yourself? I'm a one woman small breeder, and I do find that my homebreds can find it very disruptive leaving home and me as the only human they have really known to go somewhere strange with someone they don't know working with them. Some take it in their stride but others don't and need more time there with things taken very slowly.
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Post by Toaster on Jul 13, 2017 13:29:37 GMT
I had similar recently, I'm not sure what happened (and am not blaming the yard as the pony went there 'not 100%' anyway) I then had mine home for two weeks at grass then sent it to a top quality professional livery yard on full livery where the pony was attended to minutely with consistent highly experienced handling and seen by Physio, massage therapist and saddler just to eliminate any pain problems. Pony is now absolutely back to normal, looking fitter and happier than ever and learning to do a few new activities just to keep life interesting - well worth the money.
I'm not sure I would send another to a producer during show season if it needed bringing on though as I just think they are simply too busy with too many other demands on their time
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Post by sarahp on Jul 13, 2017 14:07:04 GMT
Good point Toaster - when I had ponies produced under saddle they went for breaking in the autumn when she was quieter as she only showed and broke. Now I have someone different to ride my ponies (previous producer retired) who hunts keenly so breaking takes place out of the hunting season instead. I add that I had/have great service from both who did/does a wonderful job with my ponies.
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Post by frankyboy on Jul 13, 2017 18:25:09 GMT
just to be schooled on and went away fairly settled and confident .
had a really bad day yesterday ,straight to back of stable ,would not let me put saddle on and must have grown 3hands in height x
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Post by brindlerainbow on Jul 13, 2017 20:17:46 GMT
Turn him away, let him chill out and then start again
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Post by frankyboy on Jul 14, 2017 17:40:23 GMT
yes looks like it but so sad for a gem of a pony x
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