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Post by Philippa on Sept 8, 2017 14:49:02 GMT
Agreed re balancers - the best invention for natives ever in my book although developed originally for TB youngstock growing too fast. I used to show mine IH off grass and balancer only. When I was a child the Colonel who ran the local riding school used to mix a big heap of chaff, oats and bran with a shovel on the floor of the feedroom and every animal was fed this in varying amounts, from childrens' ponies to cobs to hunters. How things change! And I bet there weren't any of the problems like we have now. I say this as we also fed bran, chaff & oats with boiled barley & linseed if we needed a bit more top!!!!! Never had a pony with laminitis, elms etc etc
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Post by sarahp on Sept 8, 2017 15:06:54 GMT
They were riding school animals who worked very hard, unlike many today! I think that's a great part of the problem now, not enough work for the food fed.
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Post by CarolineNelson on Sept 8, 2017 15:17:20 GMT
Agreed re balancers - the best invention for natives ever in my book although developed originally for TB youngstock growing too fast. I used to show mine IH off grass and balancer only. When I was a child the Colonel who ran the local riding school used to mix a big heap of chaff, oats and bran with a shovel on the floor of the feedroom and every animal was fed this in varying amounts, from childrens' ponies to cobs to hunters. How things change! And I bet there weren't any of the problems like we have now. I say this as we also fed bran, chaff & oats with boiled barley & linseed if we needed a bit more top!!!!! Never had a pony with laminitis, elms etc etc Thanks for making me smile! I'm guessing this is the work of predictive text - in all my years, "elms" is an equine malady new to me . . . .EMS?? ::) But yes, I agree with you.
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Post by clobo121082 on Sept 8, 2017 15:37:56 GMT
As many people have said i think you just have to be realistic with your own pony. Jacob realistically never went the best so was always carried slightly by his conformation scores after returning from covering when he was older he had been kicked by a mare and one of his hocks was larger. So for me I knew he was never really going to score the marks he needed to continue at the top in HOYS classes, if I travelled him around we probably would have got a ticket but I didn't want to do this and so instead we just competed in lower level and veteran bits when we both wanted an outing. As a judge I do like to ask the age but I am not ageist and I love seeing the oldies out there enjoying themselves. I agree a lot with what Janet has said and yes if a pony had fatty deposits etc i would mark this down but I would be less harsh on an older pony that on a young. Similarly I have been appalled at some of the wear on tear on young ponies legs but if the pony had been older for me I would accept it a little more. I am proud of how Jacob looks but I can certainly see how he has changed over the years. His stomach is far harder to keep in check now as gravity has taken its toll ;-) but his limbs are good and he doesn't have the dippy back or fatty bum bits many do. He can also still out move the youngsters! And his is feed purely on chaff and a balancer nothing else I did a little Jacob montage of his ages. There are some fantastic horses out there still competing at the top and if they are better than the youngsters why shouldn't they. 4 or 15 the best horse should win. Attachment Deleted
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Post by janetbushell on Sept 8, 2017 16:00:21 GMT
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Post by sarahp on Sept 8, 2017 16:58:00 GMT
I have a favourite story re pony ages:
Many years ago I was stewarding for husband's aunt, an eminent and now long dead Shetland breeder and judge - and mother of 6 children who all rode all sorts of equines at all sorts of disciplines so of very wide experience of both ponies and children. She was doing us a favour judging for us at a small junior charity show I used to help run, and we were doing the FR class, children under 10 yr, ponies under 13.2 throughout the show. She pulled them in, then turned to me and asked what I would like her to do as she thought one pony, placed but not in a top one, was not totally sound. I said we didn't want to send people out of the ring if we could help it, so she walked up and asked the child how old her pony was. 37 came the answer - at which point she decided that as it was doing a great job for the child at that age it was entitled to look a bit stiff so kept the place!
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Post by Philippa on Sept 8, 2017 17:45:12 GMT
And I bet there weren't any of the problems like we have now. I say this as we also fed bran, chaff & oats with boiled barley & linseed if we needed a bit more top!!!!! Never had a pony with laminitis, elms etc etc Thanks for making me smile! I'm guessing this is the work of predictive text - in all my years, "elms" is an equine malady new to me . . . .EMS?? But yes, I agree with you. Ha ha, yes , EMS!! And yes, predictive text!!!!!
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Post by flee on Sept 9, 2017 17:01:39 GMT
Not looking bad I don't think but would appreciate hearing what others think. Appears to be maintaining condition , moves fairly freely and still looks to be enjoying the job . Pony looks pretty good too .
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Post by Philippa on Sept 9, 2017 18:59:41 GMT
Lol thanks flee. Yes she's a very free moving pony. 1st & reserve champion again today. Can't moan lol x
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Post by gillwales on Sept 9, 2017 19:49:14 GMT
Philippa, I think Flee was talking about you, and coming from a triathlon athlete I would take that as a compliment!
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Post by Philippa on Sept 9, 2017 20:24:49 GMT
Philippa, I think Flee was talking about you, and coming from a triathlon athlete I would take that as a compliment! Lol oops just re read it 😳😳 its been a long, cold, wet day. Think it affected my comprehension of the written word!!!!! Lol Flee, thanks. I've never been a sprinter, just a steady long distance trot. 🙀🏃🏻♀️
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Post by CarolineNelson on Sept 10, 2017 10:25:57 GMT
Philippa, I think Flee was talking about you, and coming from a triathlon athlete I would take that as a compliment! :) Lol oops just re read it 😳😳 its been a long, cold, wet day. Think it affected my comprehension of the written word!!!!! Lol Flee, thanks. I've never been a sprinter, just a steady long distance trot. 🙀🏃🏻♀️ Steady is good. Some LR leaders run their ponies (and children) either much too 'funereally' - cautiously slowly, or, far too fast, taking them out of the comfort (and comfortable-to-ride/rise-to-the-trot-to) zone. Joking apart, as a trainer/coach/judge, I really appreciate the obvious communication between handler & rider. Back to the plot, the pony looks very well. But, I'm a little bit biased in the 'Cosford' direction, as my mini Dachshunds are from 'Cosford' !! The latest, becoming a veteran in canine terms, eats purely organic food. Home-cooked chicken [skin off] & real veg. Cabbage & carrot a speciality. She looks great on it - which possibly goes to prove that 'straights' are still a great staple diet!! (for all of us?? ;)
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Post by justliloldme on Sept 10, 2017 10:36:55 GMT
given up trying to post pic, epic fail
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Post by Philippa on Sept 10, 2017 11:55:04 GMT
Lol oops just re read it 😳😳 its been a long, cold, wet day. Think it affected my comprehension of the written word!!!!! Lol Flee, thanks. I've never been a sprinter, just a steady long distance trot. 🙀🏃🏻♀️ Steady is good. Some LR leaders run their ponies (and children) either much too 'funereally' - cautiously slowly, or, far too fast, taking them out of the comfort (and comfortable-to-ride/rise-to-the-trot-to) zone. Joking apart, as a trainer/coach/judge, I really appreciate the obvious communication between handler & rider. Back to the plot, the pony looks very well. But, I'm a little bit biased in the 'Cosford' direction, as my mini Dachshunds are from 'Cosford' !! The latest, becoming a veteran in canine terms, eats purely organic food. Home-cooked chicken [skin off] & real veg. Cabbage & carrot a speciality. She looks great on it - which possibly goes to prove that 'straights' are still a great staple diet!! (for all of us?? Ha ha as you can see from the pic we do communicate quite a lot! I didn't know they had mini dachshunds too.
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Post by CarolineNelson on Sept 10, 2017 12:10:19 GMT
Most certainly, they have stunning Dachshunds.
Paul specialises in Mini smooth-haired whilst Margaret breeds Standard Wired. With numerous grandchildren, their dogs have super family-friendly temperaments. If I was capable of shrinking photos to fit, I would post a recent one!
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