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Post by ????? on Jan 20, 2018 20:30:25 GMT
As we have just ponies for what seems like forever, we have recently acquired a nice Small hunter, however I think he would do well in Small riding horse classes as well? Can you qualify in both? What societies etc? This is all foreign to us having been in bsps for god only knows how long!
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Post by didn't take long on Jan 21, 2018 10:28:46 GMT
I only show ponies yet it took all of about 2min to find this
For SHB GB
RESTRICTIONS ON ENTRIES No horse may be entered in both a Ridden Hunter, Working Show Horse class or Riding Horse Class at the same show.
BSHA
F) Change of Type/Category A Horse may not be registered in more than one Type at the same time
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Post by CarolineNelson on Jan 21, 2018 12:35:56 GMT
Well done 'didn't take long'!!
It never ceases to amaze me that individuals don't seek the information from the relevant Societies/Associations - with the power of Google, even if the person is not a |Member of said Society/Association, most info is on tap.
To the OP: - assuming this horse measures and your rider is under 25, he could also be shown in BSPS "Intermediate Show Hunter Type" classes. A true Small Hunter would not (should not) be of the same 'type' as a Riding Horse, a classification which was successfully introduced to give a 'slot' to the 'in-betweenies'.
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Post by Philippa on Jan 21, 2018 17:43:49 GMT
Sometimes when searching different society rule books you cant always see the wood for the trees.
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Post by Pepper on Apr 18, 2018 13:35:06 GMT
Absolutely not A small hunter is not a small riding horse - regardless of browband A true to type small hunter should be a scaled down middleweight hunter - with classic hunter conformation attributes, way of going etc
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Post by ponymad79 on Apr 18, 2018 21:25:28 GMT
Shouldn’t this be what this forum should be about asking ordinary questions the answer to which can be informative to others Not to be told look it up or being amazed that people don’t look up the revelant society surely this makes a pleasant change from posts being critical of shows judging etc . Not everyone is knowledgeable so it would be nice if the reply’s from some could be less condescending .
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Post by specialsparkle3 on Apr 22, 2018 16:13:33 GMT
Really, the question is, why would you want to? If he is a Small Hunter, he cannot possibly be a Riding Horse, the two are not remotely the same ! Have courage in your conviction and decide what you hope he is, then stick to it. To show in both classes, even if possible, shows to the World you don't know what your horse is.
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Post by sarahp on Apr 22, 2018 16:45:59 GMT
I tend to feel that if the query is something that is easily looked up it is better to go to the definitive source - providing you can understand it of course - rather than to elicit answers on here which may or may not be correct. If something is a matter of opinion, by all means ask for some, it often helps to form your own to read those of others. Or if general rather than specific queries fair enough, but for society rules it's surely better to check them?
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Post by gillwales on Apr 22, 2018 20:51:23 GMT
Shouldn’t this be what this forum should be about asking ordinary questions the answer to which can be informative to others Not to be told look it up or being amazed that people don’t look up the revelant society surely this makes a pleasant change from posts being critical of shows judging etc . Not everyone is knowledgeable so it would be nice if the reply’s from some could be less condescending . If the OP had posted photos and asked which class we thought the horse should be entered in then that makes sense. but where it is a matter of rules then it is shear stupidity not to ask the societies directly, in writing and then to take a copy of the answer to a show, you are then covered. Show the Secretary or Judge a printout of the opinions of HG'ers and you will get laughed out of the ring. That is why people advise to go to the Society. To the OP, to be a good example of a type will mean it is only one type, look at the conformation and way of going to chose which class to enter, plus if you do too many classes at one show you are likely to make the horse show sick and will spoil it.
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Post by ponymad79 on Apr 23, 2018 6:38:40 GMT
I totally agree that one should always check the rules with the relevent society that indeed would be “shear stupidity” if they did not . I don’t imagine anyone has presented a print out from horse gossip in the ring .
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Post by Overandout on Apr 25, 2018 19:32:35 GMT
So I’ve just read in the main posting area, several questions which could easily have been googled. And were they met with such animosity and nastiness? No.
If you have nothing nice to say or anything helpful to contribute, then might I suggest that you don’t say anything? Or is being polite too difficult in this day and age? There is no need for the snipey, unpleasant comments - it makes for most uncomfortable reading and puts me off this forum entirely.
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Post by bigmama on Apr 26, 2018 13:35:39 GMT
Time and time again we see people asking questions on Horsegossip about showing rules ..... if the bluntness of this thread drives home the message to competitors of the importance of checking a society's rules for oneself rather than relying in hearsay then job well done!
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Post by Baffled55 on Apr 26, 2018 18:09:38 GMT
Putting aside some unpleasant comments, it makes for an interesting debate. There are most definitely small hunters that could be a small riding horse - granted they won't win hoys in either class if they have the ability to do both, but certainly are some horses that could do both, and wouldn't look out of place in either. It's a sign of the times, horses and ponies are generally far lighter now.
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Post by gillwales on Apr 26, 2018 18:43:03 GMT
Really Baffled55 I would like to know which of the comments are unpleasant?? Many people have advised to seek information directly from the Societies, and this is because it is the only way you can be certain of the correct information rather than hearsay, I see nothing wrong in this.
Like you have said a horse that "could" do both classes are not likely to win.
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Post by Overandout on Apr 27, 2018 17:14:29 GMT
Really Baffled55 I would like to know which of the comments are unpleasant?? Many people have advised to seek information directly from the Societies, and this is because it is the only way you can be certain of the correct information rather than hearsay, I see nothing wrong in this. Like you have said a horse that "could" do both classes are not likely to win. I would suggest it’s the tone and manner of which the comments are made - how you think you come across on the internet can be very different to the person asking a question. I think being a little nicer and lot less snipey wouldn’t be too difficult. Food for thought.
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