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Post by merlod on Sept 27, 2009 17:48:56 GMT
What about 20+ "kids" galloping the guts out of 12.2 games ponies in MGA?!!!
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Post by cassie30 on Sept 27, 2009 17:54:39 GMT
depends on the size of their as*!!!!
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Post by slj on Sept 27, 2009 19:27:16 GMT
I sold a lovely 12.2hh pony to a lady for her 10 yr daughter about 6 years ago, but apparently the daughter has never ridden it....the mother rides it  the woman looks bl@@dy stupid and believe me the pony is a childs pony as my child who was a novice rider used to ride the pony beautifully. One year at the Royal show a lady approached me and she said to me ''you sold that lovely pony to ''x'' didnt you?'', I replied ''yes'', ''well will you tell her to stop riding it as she looks stupid!''..............................!!!!!  Wish I had never sold her the pony now  I did hear many years ago now one show did say in its ruling that NO childs ridden pony is to be ridden by adults.....not sure if it was an NCPA show. And a saddler said to me that the 15" show saddles are very popular because they are large enough for the adults to ride in before they put the child on board and yet small enough for the child and pony to compete in  |
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Post by cassie30 on Sept 27, 2009 19:33:39 GMT
15" not big enough for some of the adults i see riding these ponies!
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Post by cassie30 on Sept 27, 2009 19:34:52 GMT
p.s think that would be hard to police, especially ncpa as adults can ride the small breeds?
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Post by merlod on Oct 3, 2009 10:19:02 GMT
There is a BIG difference between a small adult riding a SecB with good bone in a showing class and a big kid riding a "Dresden China" show pony type at full gallop!
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 3, 2009 10:27:38 GMT
How very true and some of the children are pretty, big!!!
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Post by cheekychops on Oct 23, 2009 12:54:06 GMT
I agree. It is appropriate for a lightweight adult to ride a small breeds stallion - lets face it, some of them you simply woulnt stick your kids on because they are tooooooo naughty.
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Post by dazycutter on Oct 23, 2009 18:00:04 GMT
Pollypoppet, i have noticed that some of the smaller shows are actually stating that ponies must only be worked in by those competing them and thats good, a lot of people would be stuffed at HOYS then.. how many adults were riding in the ponies for the little kids to get on especially thopse naughty show ponies... PMSL ... ;D |
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 23, 2009 18:02:41 GMT
I can believe it dazycutter!
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Post by dazycutter on Oct 23, 2009 18:14:20 GMT
Cassie... I saw it....  nothing worse than seeing a big adult on a show pony thumping it around the warm up area..... |
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 23, 2009 18:21:38 GMT
Have seen it all...dont know whats wrong with getting a pony the kids can do themselves, but, if the kids are good enough to compete at hoys in the showjumping, why oh why cant they warm it up themselves? dont understand!
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Post by rover on Oct 23, 2009 20:18:48 GMT
UMMMMH! I thinks its very obvious isnt it? |
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 23, 2009 20:39:36 GMT
lol...yep!!
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Post by stephjw1 on Nov 3, 2009 21:16:23 GMT
I have asked this before, I do not have kids (well little ones) so I ride my shettie at home just to keep him fit I am 5t 2 and about 8.5 stone I ride him 3 times a week for about 20 mins only walk and trot but he will canter quite willingly with me he seems to enyoy it ears pricked and a bounce in his step so should I be doing this as I believe it to be for his welfare
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Post by brookhouse on Nov 3, 2009 22:07:32 GMT
the thing is, these amimals have are children on board, I have been moaned at, at a small show for riding my sons 12hn first ridden [ first time out]
some of these ponies are sharp and need working in, but the judge only judges what she sees in the ring, so there's your answer.
I have seen many ponies worked in for hours around the lorries, yes it looks horrible poor pony,I am lucky mine need a few minutes lunging and one needs no work at all but what about if you can't lung and the pony needs warming up a little to make sure its safe and settled before the 3 stone child gets on, I weigh 8.5 stone and am 5.6 ft tall and I ride and school my childrens ponies as and when they need it.
but I have seen children in fr that must be my weight , maybe get myself some pony tails lol
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Post by nici on Nov 4, 2009 7:23:47 GMT
I have asked this before, I do not have kids (well little ones) so I ride my shettie at home just to keep him fit I am 5t 2 and about 8.5 stone I ride him 3 times a week for about 20 mins only walk and trot but he will canter quite willingly with me he seems to enyoy it ears pricked and a bounce in his step so should I be doing this as I believe it to be for his welfare My 40" Shet is perfectly capable of carrying the 7-8 stone jockey who backed him. She schools him for me very occasionally, as my daughter is just 6 and a bit young to be teaching him new things - he's only 4 and just a baby. She has also ridden him at a couple of shows, again to further his education - yes she looks a tad tall on him, but he is perfectly comfortable carrying her, including a good gallop. Keep riding your pony. I bet he loves it and it keeps him fit  Not all Shetlands are suitable kids ponies anyway. I'm lucky that all mine are, as that's what I need them for. But there are plenty who would take the micky if ridden by a small child, and are definitely ponies for small adults. |
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Post by Milliesmum on Nov 4, 2009 7:47:57 GMT
Shets are extremely bright little beasties, we had one on my old yard that would stand all day being fussed, groomed and played with by children, but if an adult went in to tack her up she would give you the evil eye and bite your kneecaps!
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Post by stephjw1 on Nov 4, 2009 23:36:44 GMT
Thanks I feel better now, mine is angelic with a child on his back but I would not trust him an inch with a child in the stable, I will keep exercising him as I enjoy it and it keeps him fit
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Post by bsjaowner on Nov 4, 2009 23:48:28 GMT
Cassie30 . . . . BSJA rule - any pony showjumping is not allowed to be ridden by an adult or any child not eligible for the class the pony is entered in (ie. 128 kid has to be under 12/138 under 14 etc) AT ALL ANYWHERE on the showground! So no jumping pony at HOYS would be ridden in by an adult the BSJA stewards would have them straight away and even if an adult gets on a jumping pony at a BSJA show you can be sure someone will report them!! One area where the BSJA have it right!
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Post by cassie30 on Nov 5, 2009 0:01:11 GMT
Um, i didnt say i had seen it at bsja did i?  i said i'd seen it all, not meaning jumping at hoys and asked the question about kids/adults at hoys! I was confused if anything, as i said those little riders good enough to jump there, think i may have been referring to adults warming show ponies up hun x |
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Post by welshboys on Nov 5, 2009 13:55:52 GMT
i agree with this these poor ponies are being ridden into submission and quite often over bitted and in a false outline just so the child looks good and then they wonder why there ponys go lame i saw a dartmoor being worked in at devon county by big tall teenager for at least a hour and 3/4 and it was not coping with the ground at all and had a very stifled movement poor thing looked like it did not dare put a foot wrong how can this be right
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Post by merlod on Nov 10, 2009 18:53:00 GMT
Get over yourself! Show ponies tend to be blood ponies and a kid's safety is paramount. On the other hand, we could only put kids on geriatric plods. If any damage was being done to the pony's backs, the little jock would soon be flying thro' the air. Riding in is about setting the pony's mind frame as well as taking out any neccessary "sting" and very few little kids have the ability to do that. I was lucky, my kid rode her own ponies in but her 12hh SHP (who was placed regularly at PUK) needed to be "reminded" of his manners at home every so often.
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Post by tabbyx on Nov 15, 2009 0:10:01 GMT
my mum used to ride my 12hh l/r f/r pony and she's 5ft and 8 stone, the pony carried her well and only had her off twice(once she was going through a gate that was a bit narrow and she had her knees up on the seat of the saddle and the pony spooked at a pheasant and the other time riding through the woods a pheasant flew out underneath her!)
agree with you merlod hopefully i'm going to get a 12.2 show pony to school,produce etc. and my friend(she's nine but rides really well) to show it, so i'd work it in at shows etc.(but i'm only 4"11 and 6 stone)
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Post by traffik on Nov 21, 2009 0:59:22 GMT
the point does seem to be missed somewhat, often producers will work in ponies round and round the lorry park, outside the ring to attract attention, be it the stewards, judges, who ever, judging by the comments above, it works.
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Post by merlod on Dec 23, 2009 20:31:58 GMT
I've seen this too and the adult rider ended up on her deriere whilst the pony happily "free schooled" itself around the lorry park! Don't think that they wanted any judge or steward to see that!!!!!
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Post by actress on Jan 15, 2010 18:36:05 GMT
I think sometimes adults do need to ride kids ponies at the end of the day these ponies are SHOW ponies that are in and feed to show and sometimes a little kids cant cope with a whizzy ponys and you couldn't expect them to.fare enough if the adult is miles to heavy for the pony i don't agree with it.But there is such thing as a small adult!
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Post by mcw on Jan 31, 2010 15:22:35 GMT
When I was at the North of England Spring Show last year, there was at least 3 tiny and I mean tiny ponies being beaten round the ring.
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Post by halfpass on Jan 31, 2010 21:05:25 GMT
Blimey have you got out of bed the wrong side, cruel producers ponies being beaten round the ring, what ever next.
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Post by sageandonion on Feb 1, 2010 12:17:40 GMT
What do people do when they see tiny ponies being beaten and other such cruel sights. Do they stand and watch or do they huddle in the corner and bit*h?
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the woman looks bl@@dy stupid and believe me the pony is a childs pony as my child who was a novice rider used to ride the pony beautifully.
Not all Shetlands are suitable kids ponies anyway. I'm lucky that all mine are, as that's what I need them for. But there are plenty who would take the micky if ridden by a small child, and are definitely ponies for small adults.
i said i'd seen it all, not meaning jumping at hoys and asked the question about kids/adults at hoys! I was confused if anything, as i said those little riders good enough to jump there, think i may have been referring to adults warming show ponies up hun x
