How do you know???????

[perfect]

Travelled for 2 hrs today cost £60 in diesel, plus entry fee, to be informed when my grandaughter entered the ring(she only 6) to do a TTFR, that she couldnt be judges as the judge had had dealings with her in her earlier life, The judge had since left home and got married so how on eart is one supposed to know who can and cant judge your pony. Is there anyway of finding out as i certainly dont want this to happen again Time Effort Money and a child upset Please help if you can!!!!

[dun4u]

Quite a few choose not to show under certain Judges and I think many exhibitors find out who their Judge will be, either by checking their Schedule where, if it is affiliated it is usually shown, or by going on the website or just ringing the Secretary.

In your case it is more difficult if said Judge has married and changed her name. I really do sympathise with you and your daughter on this one and can't really come up with a sure-fire solution. Perhaps someone else can.

[sarah00000]

Thats harsh isnt it! Poor little mite too! I guess judge was trying to be honest and play by the rules, but very harsh for you!

[sarah00000]

I was thinking about this while I put horses to bed. If these entries are pre-paid, county show entries.........why cant the list of entrants be emailed to the judge, prior to the show, so that he/she can decide in advance if anyone should not be judged under him/her.

[victoria (highhill)]

Jul 7, 2009 18:44:56 GMT @sarah00000 said:

I was thinking about this while I put horses to bed. If these entries are pre-paid, county show entries.........why cant the list of entrants be emailed to the judge, prior to the show, so that he/she can decide in advance if anyone should not be judged under him/her.

You cant do that - the judge is not meant to know the names of the ponies/riders etc before the class is judged. Dont know how you get around the problem thou

[thecremellosociety]

The only way a judge identifys a competitor is back number, its up to comeptitor to find out the judge, if not the breeder it can be hard, had an entrant come in for a judge, of her prefix, i notified the entry and rejected it with full refund, in thi case was welsh, and was an oversight, was this a large show, if happened locally maybe another judge could stand in for one class

[hannahlh]

some shedules say for example Mrs S Smith - nee Mrs S Brown...maybe alot more should say that if they know their judge has had a (recent) change of name. Its a tough one!

[elliebee]

Jul 7, 2009 19:30:17 GMT said:

if happened locally maybe another judge could stand in for one class

[elliebee]

Pressed the wrong button again!!!!!! I think this is a good idea Emmajane, i'm sure if the show could ask judges to swap one class to avoid this it would save alot of heartache for not just the child but mum as well, after all the effort to prep pony and monies spent on diesel xxx

[dun4u]

It happened on Sunday at the Heros show - well-known lady trainer and Judge felt she shouldn't Judge the class which included one of the horses which she used to train so someone else stood in just for that class.

Yes, it can be done at local level but the higher up the scale you go the more complicated it becomes.

[dipsey]

I think that if a judge has changed her name for what ever reason married etc, then the appropriate society who she judges under,for example the bsps, then maybe they should print it for a short time in there news reviews, or even better put new thread on HG.
Re: Judges that have recently changed names. Just a thought!

[poniesrus]

There was a show up here a couple of years back where someone I know was booked to compete. They had a phonecall the night before from the breeder of the pony they had entered, to say that there had been a judge change (due to illness) and that this breeder was now judging, so said pony couldn't go in the ring.

However, the peeps phoned the secretary and, after some hooing and haaing, confirmed that the judge would judge fairly in the circumstances and pony could compete.

I would have thought, unless County/HOYS type classes, that you situation could have been treat the same in the circumstances.

[princessv]

depends of the connection- like it's ok to have ridden for the judge 18 months ago or the judge can even live in the same house as you but you're not allowed to show under a judge whose sister has had a horse produced by the same person who pays the competitors sister to muck out at age of 14.

the rules need a reform.

as for this incident, surely if the connection was close enough to be banned you would have picked up on it. Plus were the judges not shown. I always make sure i ring the secretary on the evening of the show to check any judge changes- we have that many different connections that sometimes its hard to keep track, especially with name changes

[perfect]

This is all so very confusing, from all accounts the said pony was stabled over night at the judges mothers house and then travelled in there wagon on to a show, a long time ago. But today have been told that a producer had broken someone horse for them and that she can show it under that producer?? It wasnt even a qualifiying class at a NCPA show. could there not be a page in the passports that have to have it written in when a pony has been on a producers yard for any reason and then at least the new owner would have an idea of who not to show under, i suppose it would be hard to police. as for checking judges for the class concerned, this is what im trying to say How Do You know which judge has had anything to do with your pony in the past.