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Post by thecremellosociety on Aug 15, 2009 7:10:32 GMT
If you see anyone abusing any pony you should report it to the show, i myself have done once at a in hand show a few years back and also had one reported to me thrashing a small pony that wouldnt load at Derby, i went straight and dealt with the problem and have been told they are not welcome back, and that sort of behaviour wouldnt be tolerated, ( i watched for 5 mins hidden before i made my desicion, then loaded the pony for them, and then told them what i thought and to leave immediatly!)
Someones defination of thrashing can be different to others, a quick tickle with a tickling stick to wake up or a tap on the nose, but was this pony actually beaten, if its enough to cause upset by the noise to another pony it cant have been to gentle, but i wasnt there so cant comment,
But think the person in question who has replied and said he came 2nd and got a little rude, has done nothing for his credibility by the tone of his reply, can someone tell me where i may find the results please or pm me the name or thelist of results for said class
Many Thanks
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Aug 15, 2009 7:12:14 GMT
"Would also like to say what a pleasure it was to meet Peter Wilkinson in the flesh. what a charming ,kind and knowledgable gentleman he is" Have to agree with this. I took my pony and saddle to ask him to adjust it before a class, he said its not doing your pony any favours and put one of his on. Told me to go and try in the class - he didnt know me from Adam - just trusted me to back it back. A very good salesman too cos I didnt take the saddle back - just a load of money!!!!
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Post by starjump on Aug 15, 2009 8:05:46 GMT
Agree Mr Wilkinson had a smile and friendly word for everyone all week customers or not . Charming gentleman . First class products and service. Have to say anything i have later gone on to sell on ebay when no longer needed i.e bits etc that has come from Fylde saddlery very often makes back almost as much as i paid for it ! Agree also about the childrens classes clashing on wednesday as did the micor and junior ridden finals on the thursday morning . It would have been nice to have classes spread more over the week or as suggested a designated childrens ring with sponsored classes or donated prizes i'm sure would be popular and well supported. All in all though had a super time and will be back.
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Post by boots & saddles on Aug 15, 2009 10:49:48 GMT
this pony is owned by a friend of mine and is shown by this man for her with her daughter on board. my friend is one of the nicest people you could meet and would never allow any one to be unkind to any of her ponies ever. your comments are very hurtful and rude,where did you come in that class or need i ask. so very bitter them lemons you are sucking. name and address supplied no problem. please note i was not at this show but most of my mates were including the owner and did not seem to see any thing like whats been said should of gone to spec savers may be. this pony is not worked in for hours by large adult and is only ridden by this tiny little rider, and i for one think you have done a great job on and with this pony. good luck with him for the rest of the season.
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Post by ellieraga on Aug 15, 2009 11:00:16 GMT
Why is it that you think people are only raising this issue as they were beaten by this pony I wasnt at the show but maybe people were concerned for the pony, also why would someone give a reply like that if they had done nothing wrong Please rember children use this site as well, i am not happy for my nine year old to be reading language that was used in an earlier reply and am sure other parents feel the same
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Post by Tickles friend on Aug 15, 2009 13:25:09 GMT
For the pony's owner's information we were watching a little girl from our NPS Area riding a pony in the exercise area. She is of lead rein age and was the child whose very safe pony leapt forward as it went past the gentleman in question. The man had raised his cane above his shoulder and struck his pony four or five times with the child on its back without looking at what was moving around him. Judge that as you wish. I have heard someone did mention the incident to the NPS.
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 15, 2009 15:24:04 GMT
If the above is true I sincerely hope it has been reported and that the NPS will take appropriate action. Must have been particularly frightening for the children in question, not to mention the pony. Not appropriate behaviour for someone experienced in that level of showing IMO.
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Post by ellieraga on Aug 15, 2009 15:29:44 GMT
If this is correct i would not want this person showing a pony of mine with a young jockey on board
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Post by boots & saddles on Aug 15, 2009 16:19:47 GMT
if you go on the results thread it wont give you the persons name as i have stated its owned by someone else not the leader. do you lot honestly think the mother of the child on board would just stand back and watch her daughter be put in any danger. its not called horse gossip for nothing, if this pony was really thrashed watched by you all then why didnt you complain at the show and this man asked to leave. would also like to say this man taught both both 1st and 2nd winners and the pictures of the kids smiling were a pleasure to see. yes i do think the said man could of explained his self in a better manner,but im sure he was very angry at the time, if anyone does not like any post ask the mods to remove it,from time to time things get a little heated on here and you have to take a lot of things said with a pinch of salt. does anyone watch the racing it looks like thoughs race horses get a good thrashing from the ring side but does the crop make contact all of the time i wonder. with regards to using this man as a leader to all that said you wouldnt you are correct you couldnt afford him. carry on showing thats what i say.
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Post by PT on Aug 15, 2009 16:44:52 GMT
Personally wouldnt want to afford him if he uses those methods!!
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Post by seventy8910 on Aug 15, 2009 17:31:38 GMT
For the pony's owner's information we were watching a little girl from our NPS Area riding a pony in the exercise area. She is of lead rein age and was the child whose very safe pony leapt forward as it went past the gentleman in question. The man had raised his cane above his shoulder and struck his pony four or five times with the child on its back without looking at what was moving around him. Judge that as you wish. I have heard someone did mention the incident to the NPS. If this is what he's done in public I wouldn't want to see what goes on at home
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Post by ellieraga on Aug 15, 2009 19:15:37 GMT
Boots and Saddles how is it your place ro comment on peoples financial situation when you do not even now them or their circumstances Three posts now comment that the pony was hit hard on a number occasions, surely all these people could see what was going on and if you reads post thoroughly it has been mentioned to the NPS At the end of the day like many others i do not know the man in question, your friend, her daughter or the pony but I THINK IT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO A HIT A PONY LIKE THIS WHETHER WITH OR WITHOUT A RIDER, AT A SHOW OR AT HOME
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Post by dobby on Aug 15, 2009 19:18:36 GMT
If his language was a tad unsavoury, it was more than likely that he was upset by gossipers hiding behind guest status rather than having guts to reveal themselves. There seems to be alot of that happening on here when an attack is being dealt. Perhaps their guest name should be coward1, coward2 and coward3.
I think this thread has run its course now and should be locked.
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Post by surprised on Aug 15, 2009 19:18:57 GMT
I am not at all in support of the person being discussed in this thread, however, I am very surprised that this thread is being allowed to continue and has not being removed. Especially when many posts on another NPS thread of a similar accusatory nature were deleted so quickly. I think that this new guest area should perhaps be moderated a little more closely.
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 15, 2009 19:27:35 GMT
The thread is being watched. However the moderators have received no complaints regarding the thread nor any requests for its removal. The person concerned has not been named, and on a personal note I have condemned the ACTS, not the person involved. Indeed I have no idea who the person is - and it doesn't matter who it is, to act as described above and witnessed by several other posters is unacceptable no matter who you are.
I'm interested to know what other thread 'surprised' is referring to, perhaps if you would care to enlighten me I may be able to explain the reasons for it's removal.
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Post by ellieraga on Aug 15, 2009 19:27:37 GMT
If you wish for a thread to be locked or removed pm one of the mods and they will do it for you, dont know if guests can send a pm though ? If not post a further reply on this running thread and they will lock it for you
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 15, 2009 19:31:05 GMT
Guests are not able to PM.
Just to clarify, we no longer remove threads or posts 'on request'. If you refer to the rules, they ask you to pm your request to a moderator together with your reasons for making the request, the mod team will then discuss and make a decision whether the reasons merit the removal of the thread.
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Post by halfpass on Aug 15, 2009 20:09:24 GMT
From what I have read the only person to out himself is the person that the post is about
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Post by boots & saddles on Aug 16, 2009 12:18:25 GMT
i do not believe it is acceptable to use methods of thrashing a pony either ,but there seems to be a few who are making it sound like he beat this pony and that is un true, i read all the post very clearly and have rang the nps and there was no reports made of anyone thrashing there pony or about any near misses due to such an incident so could you all now get on with being mean about someone else,prehaps sam roberts is on holiday. ellieraga if you can make comments on people thrashing there horse i can make comments on peoples bank balance ,and you to should read the post i said if you dont like whats been written then ask the mods to remove.
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Post by wornthetshirt on Aug 16, 2009 14:28:28 GMT
i do not believe it is acceptable to use methods of thrashing a pony either ,but there seems to be a few who are making it sound like he beat this pony and that is un true, i read all the post very clearly and have rang the nps and there was no reports made of anyone thrashing there pony or about any near misses due to such an incident so could you all now get on with being mean about someone else,prehaps sam roberts is on holiday. ellieraga if you can make comments on people thrashing there horse i can make comments on peoples bank balance ,and you to should read the post i said if you dont like whats been written then ask the mods to remove." I have come in at the tail end of this and not yet had time to read the beginning. but as for the penultemate para (thats the one before the last one..) with regard to the comment about Sam Roberts being on holiday, she was very much in evidence at P(UK) yesterday, if that can possibly be considered a holiday! (not that I can see any relevance to her, regarding a man and a pony.............)
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Post by ferret on Aug 16, 2009 15:04:03 GMT
i am going to lock this thread now
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