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Post by Sussex on Aug 30, 2009 10:57:15 GMT
News from Edenbridge is that a Connemara from East Grinstead will win the Olympia ticket at Area 4 tomorrow. The bet is winner will be grey. Welsh connection maybe?
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Post by arrogorn on Aug 30, 2009 11:25:27 GMT
Oh dear!
Is anybody going? We are going for the coloureds. Thought best get an outing before the champs
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Post by lucymay on Aug 30, 2009 11:27:10 GMT
I am entered but not going now will just wait for the champs instead
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Post by izzit on Aug 30, 2009 12:23:10 GMT
Is it rumoured to be the same Connemara that he put champion at Thames Valley?
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Post by Stop Being So Hateful on Aug 30, 2009 14:52:20 GMT
Who gives you the right to come on this board surmising. What have you got to gain by writing such drivel. If the judge liked the connie at Thames Valley the owners would be stupid not to give the class a go. If the pony you talk of is the one i think it is then it is lovely, very capable of going to Olympia, a credit to the breed and a worthy contender. By preaching what you think will happen on this board is sad and very spiteful. I hope this makes you happy knowing you are attempting to make trouble. It wont work. The judge is already at the show and the pony is on it's way too.
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Post by Sussex on Aug 30, 2009 16:11:59 GMT
It is a good pony and worthy of getting to Olympia. Everyone has favourite judges so they are sensible to travel. Hoping for everyone else's sake the competition is judged on the day. There's sure to be plenty of good ponies there to choose from.
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Post by gusto on Aug 30, 2009 19:26:49 GMT
It is a good pony and worthy of getting to Olympia. Everyone has favourite judges so they are sensible to travel. Hoping for everyone else's sake the competition is judged on the day. There's sure to be plenty of good ponies there to choose from. Everyone travels for a favourite judge, I am guilty of that, so long as that favourite judge is not 'a friend' or 'a relative', or something else dodgy going on.......maybe that is what the first person is saying........
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Post by Sussex on Aug 31, 2009 11:53:40 GMT
News from Edenbridge is that a Connemara from East Grinstead will win the Olympia ticket at Area 4 tomorrow. The bet is winner will be grey. Welsh connection maybe? True or False?
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Post by Not suprized on Aug 31, 2009 12:10:28 GMT
Well predicted sussex. The judge obviously liked the pony though from previous results so it's no great suprize. Has anyone got any results from the other sections?
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 31, 2009 12:11:30 GMT
There is a thread for this show in the results area.
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Post by Not suprized on Aug 31, 2009 12:15:06 GMT
Well predicted sussex. Richard miller clearly likes the pony/rider from previous results so its no great suprize and it is a worthy olympia finalist. Has anyone got any results from the other sections?
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Post by Guestless on Aug 31, 2009 14:36:12 GMT
Any results should be posted in the appropriate section.
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Post by titch on Aug 31, 2009 17:04:42 GMT
This is why alot of people don't do these classes when they are already decided before they have taken place!!! It stinks!
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Post by gem4eva123 on Aug 31, 2009 17:14:47 GMT
I stood and watched the championship, some of the winning ponies had to do another show. The winning connemara looked and went beautifully, as did the reserve. Well done to all concerned - it was a very very strong championship!!!
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Post by thecremellosociety on Aug 31, 2009 18:52:02 GMT
gotta be in it to win in havent you, if a judge likes your pony then its worth a go, and if it puts in a good show then probably deserves to win !!! BUT even the best can cock it up on the day no idea which pony or which judge just sounds like a prediction which seems honest enough to me, if a good pony and well ridden and judge likes then why not put it up.
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Post by question on Aug 31, 2009 19:44:52 GMT
Who gives you the right to come on this board surmising. What have you got to gain by writing such drivel. If the judge liked the connie at Thames Valley the owners would be stupid not to give the class a go. If the pony you talk of is the one i think it is then it is lovely, very capable of going to Olympia, a credit to the breed and a worthy contender. By preaching what you think will happen on this board is sad and very spiteful. I hope this makes you happy knowing you are attempting to make trouble. It wont work. The judge is already at the show and the pony is on it's way too. How did you know that the judge was already at the showground? Are you a friend of the judge to know that? Or a friend of the pony also knowing that it was on it's way to the show?
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Post by SEW on Aug 31, 2009 20:08:03 GMT
The Olympia pony has a good record in the south Both judge and rider breed and produce Welsh Section A's. Sometimes for the other?
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Post by Favours on Aug 31, 2009 20:15:30 GMT
The Olympia pony has a good record in the south Both judge and rider breed and produce Welsh Section A's. Sometimes for the other? Well that would add up why the pony has done well under this judge before and also tie up with an earlier post were is a welsh connection! So typical of Olympia classes someone is always doing someone else a favour no wonder the entries in some rounds have been so low why waste your time and money!
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Post by izzit on Aug 31, 2009 20:38:43 GMT
Am i right in thinking this is the only Olympia qualifier the pony has done? You would have thought that they would have contested it in Olympia qualifiers earlier in the season considering it has won 3 HOYS qualifiers this year. Perhaps they knew they didnt need too... IMO just makes it all the more obvious! Shame, because it could have done it on its own merrit.
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Post by kayjayem on Aug 31, 2009 20:46:18 GMT
Shame, because it could have done it on its own merrit.[/quote]
Maybe it did!
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Post by stop being so hateful on Aug 31, 2009 20:58:27 GMT
Actually i do know this pony, i have seen it in the ring but admit to knowing nothing about connies. i dont know this judge. I particiapte in HOYS and Olympia Classes. I also saw this pony in the class today and it completely and whole heartedly won the champ. It was a strong championship but it did a foot perfect show. I think everyone, including other people in the class agrees. I wish you people would just accept competitors follow judges that they know like their ponies but equally those competitors know they have to perform spot on. Well done to all concerned with this qualifier, you so deserve it
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Post by capster on Aug 31, 2009 21:24:39 GMT
Wasnt there,wasnt entered but was told yesterday who was going to take the ticket!!The winner may be a lovely pony and may have deserved the ticket today but these predictable predictions and subsequent poor entries in Olympia qualifiers is making far more more of a mockery of this so called prestigeous final than any new ruling that seems to have upset so many people.I wonder in a few years if there will be any finalists that are a true example of their breed type.The fact that 2009 has probably seen all time low entries in Olympia qualifiers should be speaking volumes to the NPS and also to breed societies,and I hope they take note!Without a doubt the quality of ponies at HOYS will be in general far superior!This is by no means a dig at the few wonderful ponies who thoroughly deserve to be there just think the way its going is very sad!
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Post by kayjayem on Aug 31, 2009 21:57:49 GMT
Didn't go today as too busy doing other things and not doing ridden this year so not up to scratch on what is out under saddle, but if this pony was, as has been stated previously, good enough on it's own merits, did a good show and the judge has previously liked it, it was obviously the hot favourite to win. Providing it did not make a total b*lls of it's show why should it not win? Should the judge mark it down so as not to be seen facey? We all know that facey judging is an absolute sickener and have all been a victim of it if we are not a known "face" but if the animal is worthy it should win "face" or not. It will be interesting to see what happens at Olympia - if it gets BOB will any one eat their words?
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Post by robertparkerjones on Aug 31, 2009 22:07:30 GMT
People over the decades have predicted winners of classes and championships. Often these predictions come true, NOT because there is anything dodgy going on, but because the animal in question is capable of winning and on past outings and performance a judge has a preference for a type or way of going. The horse and pony world is very small with many people knowing each other on various levels. Credit people with some integrity. The general opinion is that the pony deserved to win the championship. Then give them a pat on the back and a well done!!!!!
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Post by capster on Aug 31, 2009 22:39:37 GMT
Mr Parker Jones I absolutely agree with your comment and yes we do know that the showing fraternity is a small one and we all get to know people including judges on a more familiar basis,and we will undoubtably show under judges whom we know like our pony.We should also be aware that there is a difference between showing under someone who we may have a polite conversation with once in a while and choosing to show under someone who we would class as a good friend,who we may speak to on the phone on a regular basis and socialise with on or off the showground!I am not in anyway claiming this was the case today because I havent a clue,i am stating that this does go on,on a regular basis and is spoiling the sport and at times the standard of showing.I hope as I can see and agree with your point of view you also can with mine.
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Post by very skint on Sept 1, 2009 6:56:18 GMT
I'm afraid that at the moment, considering the credit crunch etc, some of us have very little money to show our ponies. Its not like the good old days, when we could go out every weekend, chasing qualifiers or even showing for fun. We now have to pick and choose where to go and which judges to go under. I have had to cut back this summer and scrimp and save for the very fews shows that we attended. Theres nothing more frustrating than having a lovely pony and not being able to show it. Maybe the owner of this pony is in the same position as me, and therefore hasnt been able to travel the country contesting every Olympia qualifier going.
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Post by watching there on Sept 1, 2009 7:08:06 GMT
I was at the show doing other classes, i don't have riddens and didn't know who the pony or rider was but was admiring it stood waiting for its class and was looking over its ring keeping an eye on my ring while its class was on and it was a truly beautiful pony , superbly ridden and well schooled there was nothing in the ring to challenge it at all imo. It stood out like sore thumb with such quality etc among the others. Yes there was some nice ponies in its class but nice at Olympia standard surely isn't good enough?
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Post by Stacey on Sept 1, 2009 8:50:44 GMT
Agreed, I think this thread is just another attempt to try and detract from the achievement of this pony. I saw him at Kent & was actually guilty of 'rubber necking' as I walked past and I don't have the slightest interest in Connies, it's a lovely pony & it deserved its place in the final. Green eyed monster possibly?!
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Post by Diadem nli on Sept 1, 2009 13:10:24 GMT
Richard Miller is a very fair judge.
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Post by ellieraga on Sept 1, 2009 13:30:34 GMT
Why the need to name the judge
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