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Post by shame on Oct 5, 2009 19:07:22 GMT
What should you do if u view a pony as a fyfr, when your child gets on board within 5 mins they are on the floor, not super safe as in the add. Should you make people aware???
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 5, 2009 19:10:08 GMT
There are lots described as something they are not! But yes, i do think if its had your child on the floor people should know who the pony is!
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Post by caron on Oct 5, 2009 19:20:22 GMT
i-think-if-i-was-taking-a-little-one-to-try-a-pony-i-would-want-to-know-if-it-had-a-history-of-naughtiness,however-it-may-not-always-be-the-owners-fault. We-have-a-secA-that-I-always-thought-was-anyones-ride-but-no-one-had-ever-really-sat-on-him-except-my-daughter-and-he-always-looked-easy-enough,it-was-only-when-I-got-on-him-myself-after-she-broke-her-leg-that-I-realised-he-was-very-strong-and-fast We-are-currently-reschooling-him-ready-for-his-prospective-new-FR-job I-have-taken-him-off-the-market-now-but-if-he-was-still-available-I-presonally-would've-amended-his-ad-to-reflect-that-he-was-not-really-suitable-for-a-tiny-jockey,as-I-wouldn't-dream-of-risking-someones-child-on-a-pony-that-went-like-a-rocket-propelled-tank
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Post by shame on Oct 5, 2009 19:29:41 GMT
being sold as one in a million, smallest of childs ride, bush button in fact, how would you expect this pony to behave?
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Post by caron on Oct 5, 2009 19:43:32 GMT
Well-it-certainly-sounds-like-it-should-be-safe-as-houses,and-wouldn't-expect-it-to-dump-its-jockey Its-such-a-nightmare-going-and-trying-ponies -you-take-such-a-risk-putting-your-kids-on-unknown-ponies
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 5, 2009 20:01:24 GMT
It is a total nightmare, my friend looked at one who's bit had been rasped to make sharp edges so everytime pony went too fast or lifted its head it dug in its mouth!! supposed first ridden
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Post by thecremellosociety on Oct 5, 2009 20:12:06 GMT
off topic Caron has your space key broke
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Post by caron on Oct 5, 2009 20:46:21 GMT
Yes >:(And-shift-keys-and-various-other-things-knackered OH-has-ordered-new-keyboard-hope-it-comes-soon,this-is-hard-work-typing-like-this
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Post by Disillusioned on Oct 5, 2009 22:00:17 GMT
being sold as one in a million, smallest of child's ride, bush button in fact, how would you expect this pony to behave? We drove 3 hours to view a FYFR pony a few weeks back, when we arrived the pony had been taken to a show by its owner! She then turned up an hour late with a very tired pony (with a rather large, hot, active splint) and thought that was an acceptable trial!! We then drove on for another hour and a half to try the "Super Safe, one in a Million, Push button ride" pony that we had seen advertised. Unfortunately the button my 6yo daughter pressed must have been the ejector seat as it launched her onto the floor within 5 minutes of her getting on. Needless to say the 4 1/2 hour drive home with a very upset and frightened child was not pleasant!!
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 5, 2009 22:04:17 GMT
Thats not good,taking it to a show on day of viewing? omg! best to find out before buying it though than one who has been doped and you buy it get it home and it turns into a monster! then what do you do? Why cant people just be honest?
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 5, 2009 22:04:17 GMT
Yes >:(And-shift-keys-and-various-other-things-knackered OH-has-ordered-new-keyboard-hope-it-comes-soon,this-is-hard-work-typing-like-this That must be driving you mad!
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Post by caron on Oct 5, 2009 22:07:38 GMT
Thats better!Plugged in an external keyboard Sounds like a nightmare, poor thing! My daughter is quite experienced and went with herfriend when she was looking for a pony and they came across some crackers! Did the owners child not ride it first? I would always insist on seeing the usual jockey get on it first, of course that is no guarantee, as I said, my daughter has always ridden our Sec A since she was 8 and he was 3/4 yo, she has never said he was fast or strong and he always just looked 'normal' to me, so when I had a quick sit on him the other day, Iwas shocked at how strong and quick he was! I had always thought he was anyones ride, if anyone had responsed to his ad with a FR kid I would've had to have put them off.
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Post by helle on Oct 8, 2009 11:02:26 GMT
It is worth remembering though before you start making anything public that all ponies react different with different riders. F.ex. we had a lovely pony for sale, green with his jumping but ALWAYS tried his heart out, and did so with every kid who tried him- except one little girl! It is hand on heart the only time EVER I have known this pony to stop at a fence and of course she fell off. This again was advertised as a very safe pony, push bottom and anyones ride. Just not for this little girl for what ever reason!I am sure the seller of the pony was horrified, but perhaps it was just a blip on the system and totally out of character. I once had our TOTALLY bombproof shetland rear up with my tiny daughter as he got stung on the belly by a wasp. I am sure if this was the way the pony was known to react with all small children it would not be advertised as it was, that is just a liable case waiting to happen!
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Post by heathers on Oct 8, 2009 11:19:16 GMT
i once tried out a quiet to ride welsh cob mare to get back into riding. convinced my husband it would do me good. it was like a rodeo display,took about 4hrs to get to the hospital as rough roads are not good with a couple of broken ribs.my husband said if i ride again he will leave me as i already have spinal injuries hence wanting a quiet to ride cob. i should have giving them some grief as they then said she's only just been broken in.she freaked out as i put my leg forward to tighten the girth on a 14 inch saddle on a 14;3h cob mare.
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 8, 2009 11:28:44 GMT
Oh dear sounds like they should not own horses at all ! 14inch saddle?
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Post by Tandy on Oct 8, 2009 13:09:58 GMT
I remember once being with a friend when she was showing her shetland to a family and he nipped the father, this pony had never nipped or bitten anyone in all the years the girl had owned him and they walked away saying they were not buying a pony that bit, if something is going to go wrong the odds are it will be at the worst time possible when a buyer is there.
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Post by perfect on Oct 8, 2009 14:05:48 GMT
when i went to look at a pony that was advertised on here a couple of months ago, because i wouldnt let me 6yr old grandaughter ride it in an open field in the pouring rein with a pelham in its mouth (nOT SUITABLE FOR A !ST PONY OF HUNTER TYPE) i was slatted by the owner and a couple of other people. Safety in of the upmost important with our little ones and the little blitters no matter how safe can always do something wrong.
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Post by careful on Oct 8, 2009 14:46:52 GMT
Hi
I also remember selling a pony which was completely bombproof with my daughter for years and when someone came to try it it suddenly exploded with the child on, completely out of the blue. Maybe they have an idea what you are trying to do and dont like the family!!!! or maybe it was something the child did differantly that my child had never done who knows.
It is really obvious which pony you are on about from the wording you have used and really dont think it is fair putting this on an open forum. I dont know the pony personally and have never seen it but your comments are likely to put people going to look at it now and I dont think its fair on the owners. It is possible the pony hasnt done anything like that before and that it was a one off.
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 8, 2009 15:50:23 GMT
We had a young section A stick a good buck in for the first time ever when people were viewing him, with our rider on, the dad of the girl who came to try it said "brilliant, i like a pony with a touch of spirit!" !!! funniest thing were that the my rider had said that morning, im going to make him buck so he doesnt get sold!
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Post by perfect on Oct 8, 2009 19:18:33 GMT
careful guest which wording are you refairing to i havebt said the pony i saw did anything wrong, what im saying is that a pelham isnt suitable for a 1st pony of SHtype( if your refairing to me and also if so the pony was sold the following day..
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Post by careful on Oct 8, 2009 20:04:31 GMT
Sorry perfect for the confusion, I wasnt referring to you. I was referring to 'Shame' the original poster and the wording which has come from an ad which i have seen and it is therefore obvious to me which pony they are on about.
Totally agree with you pelham not suitable for that type of pony
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Post by shame on Oct 8, 2009 20:24:09 GMT
My post has nothing to do with any other post on hg, just only personal experience and wonted opinions, like most threads on this forum.
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Post by danniebmum on Oct 8, 2009 22:03:31 GMT
we had a 12.2 show pony for sale a good few years ago was safest pony ever had but only dannie had ever rode her including been broken atleast 6 people came to try her and threw them all off,how embarrasing she had never put a foot wrong in 4 years we owned her,let her go as brood mare in end.
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 9, 2009 7:19:28 GMT
I dread it when buyers come, do we think the ponies sense that we are hoping they behave so much, that we are nervous, even though they have been so good for us? They must pick up on that?
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Post by honeypot on Oct 16, 2009 23:46:39 GMT
Whilist selling a 11.2 FR the pony was foot perfect with the child,in the field popped a jump, went past traffic including a ice cream van and a lite bon fire. Mum asked as he was so well behaved what was the worst thing he would do, me being honest said if he was wound up he may put in a buck but just one and not abad one. She rang me up later to say they really liked the pony but because I said it bucked she could only offer me you can guess a stupidly low price. I was so annoyed I just put the phone down on her. At the next PC rally I watched most of the ponies in the ride put in a buck at one point in the day, ours did not. When I sell a pony I seem to be penalised because I am honest. Ponies are unpredicatable we should be all be concerned about the childs saftey but sometimes I think people are looking for a garrentee you can not possibley offer.
I would also say when an adult rides a pony their aids are much stronger than a childs and a lot more direct so a pony will be sharper. Ask a child to squeeze your hand has hard as possble and compare it to your squeeze, by the same token their leg aids are weeker and not as co-ordinated. An adults leg aids will seem like a clout to the pony even if you do feel as if youve given a strong aid. I stopped riding my daughters pony because I was making her too off the leg. Also a childs legs are almost never in the most effective place to give an aid so the effect is muted, unlike an adult whose leg can get round the pony. We have an old pony who is a 'cooker', he will adjust his ride to the child riding him. With a novice he is almost dead to the leg, sticks his nose out and goes like a donkey. Yet when someone more experienced gets on him he will perk up and if you are really a pain and try and make him do all the hard bits he will try being naughty.
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Post by sarahp on Oct 17, 2009 8:35:36 GMT
Yes I've had one or two of those over the years - they're worth their weight in gold!
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Post by rockafella on Oct 17, 2009 13:52:53 GMT
We have a 13.2 who has been placed on loan a few times and each person who comes to view her we tell SHE IS VERY QUICK but you know what mums are like, yes my daughter is this my son is that, next week we get a phone call, 'your pony is not what you said she was' this really really annoys us as we NEVER try and sell a pony as something she isnt, some of the time the seller isnt the problem x
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Post by leaveemalone on Jan 28, 2010 23:26:27 GMT
back to the original post....I don't think it's worth naming and shaming these ponies. By doing this, people would only get a one sided story and draw opinions upon that (I'm sure the person whom owned the pony named and shamed would have something to say and may have opinions of there own about the rider etc)....It could all get a bit messy with unnecessary bit*hing.
When viewing a suitably advertised pony after you have asked all the correct questions beforehand then upon the visit by making sure the pony ridden by an appropriate rider you would expect to see on a fyfr, it is at this point you make the concious decision whether to place your child on the pony. If then the child is thrown off/falls off it doesn't always suggest the pony in question falsely advertised. I've seen this situation from both sides, a genuine fyfr tried by a small child whom really wasn't experienced enough for going off the lead rein but the very pushy mother wanted them to be, the child was completely petrified therefore the pony didn't go as good as could have and on the other hand some that I personally wouldn't describe as a fyfr. Its all a matter of opinion really and each person looking should choose wisely and leave other potential buyers to assess the "potentially mis-advertised pony" themselves and draw their own conclusions. Within reason most genuine fyfr, unless ridiculously priced won't be around for long and so it will speak for itself.
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Post by ellieraga on Jan 29, 2010 9:34:53 GMT
Think there are too many parents out there at present who think there children are something they are not, and when coming off the lead rein you can see they are not the rider that the parent/parents have made them out to me !!!! In a lot of cases a lot easier to bad mouth and slate the pony than admit that your child isnt the rider that you thought they were and maybe could do with a bit more experience and practice to improve there riding to the next level ? My daughter has been off the lead rein for a couple of years now, had a schoolmaster type pony and won loads for the last two seasons, have just bought her a faster 12.2 sj pony and you can see that with the pony being quicker and more experienced we have some work to do, doesnt mean its a bad or naughty pony just takes time to get use to different ponies and not make out our kids to be something they are not !!!!
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Post by Ziggy on Jan 29, 2010 9:51:47 GMT
I am probably going to be shot down in flames for this but I think there are very, very, few really quiet child's ponies. A good deal of ponies have some quirk or other which many owners manage well but these quirks often come to light when the ponies are being sold. I think when we were looking for a pony for my daughter I should have used more sense and not just gone for a pretty face. I know we don't have ponies anymore but in many ways it is just as well. Would struggle like mad to get my daughter to ride now following the bucking bronco of a pony we had, may well have been his back as he was a bit better after he had had it done. Try and explain that to a five year old girl, though! I think I would only get another pony now if we won the lottery so we could get a total child's pony to restore her confidence. Ponies that are totally safe for tinies are worth thier weight in gold and if I had the money I would pay no end of pennies if I thought it would ensure my child's safety, seeing her flying through the air still haunts me. I have only ever owned one such special pony. She came fourth in a HOYS qualifier with a child who had not been riding long and it was her first time riding in a showring. A totally wonderfull childs pony! She could ahve done an individaul show by herself. Ooh how I wish we could have a found a pony like that for my daughter. Good luck with your search!
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