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Post by chloe2 on Dec 10, 2009 21:34:24 GMT
swellings inlegs are an indecation of a few things, unless your a vet and can see the animal one can only guess at what it is, worms yes but the its belly would look low and its coat in poor conditiion, injury more likely especially if they go down when turned out, could be nothing more than too much hard feed and standing it resulting in a build up of toxins, best thing to do is to have the vet out, at least they would be able to tell you if its an old injury. then you have a bona vida reason to go back to the old owers.# Actually a horse can look fine and have encysted red worms which would cause swelling. My boy passed a 5 stage vetting with flying colours, was been shown at county level and within a week of being wormed, the encysted red worms emerged - believe me, he did not look like a wormy horse.
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Post by Hunter123 on Dec 10, 2009 21:48:02 GMT
Has any bodies horse ever had bog spavins? Also how they coped with it?
thanks
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Post by Milliesmum on Dec 10, 2009 21:50:55 GMT
Has any bodies horse ever had bog spavins? Also how they coped with it? thanks I bought one, the vet wrote on the vetting sheet 'bog spavins both hind legs, passed spavin test', I had her 3 1/2 years never once lame, I showed the vetting certificate to the new owners and said they were welcome to have her vetted again, but they didn't bother. Last I heard she was doing SJ and XC with no problems whatsoever, although I'm not in contact with her now.
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Post by Hunter123 on Dec 10, 2009 21:57:22 GMT
Sounds good.
Anybody any tips on trying to get it down? It says on website it goes down in time but thought there might be something to help it along.
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Post by chocoholic on Dec 11, 2009 14:11:43 GMT
Haylage can sometimes cause legs to fill; have seen this before on some hunters and the swelling subsided when put onto ordinary hat. However, I don't know what you are feeding so this is a shot in the dark.
Good luck in finding a cure.
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Post by sageandonion on Dec 11, 2009 14:17:24 GMT
I am sure the vet will give you a proper diagnosis and hopefully a cure, why don't you call one?
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Post by Hunter123 on Dec 11, 2009 15:27:39 GMT
Yes we have a livery with a vet coming on tuesday, going to let him have a look, if finds nothing we going to ring a vet of a friend who is suposed to be really good.
Chocoholic - He is on haylage, will try something else
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Post by Deagol on Dec 27, 2009 17:57:40 GMT
My pony had the same problem a couple of weeks ago he banged his leg in the wagon .the vet drained it off and injected it with steriods and at the moment it has gone down a lot.
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Post by nerja on Dec 28, 2009 0:29:30 GMT
At first I wud take advice and try things out but I wud not give butte ..... if I had no joy after 8 days I wud get the vet out...... and your vet sounds like my doctor... giving advice over the phone...... I cant see how they can do that ? I have had my vet 20yrs and not once have they given advice over the phone n doctors aren't easy to get so can't sack him......
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Post by klbeebs on Dec 28, 2009 0:48:43 GMT
swellings inlegs are an indecation of a few things, unless your a vet and can see the animal one can only guess at what it is, worms yes but the its belly would look low and its coat in poor conditiion, injury more likely especially if they go down when turned out, could be nothing more than too much hard feed and standing it resulting in a build up of toxins, best thing to do is to have the vet out, at least they would be able to tell you if its an old injury. then you have a bona vida reason to go back to the old owers.# Actually a horse can look fine and have encysted red worms which would cause swelling. My boy passed a 5 stage vetting with flying colours, was been shown at county level and within a week of being wormed, the encysted red worms emerged - believe me, he did not look like a wormy horse. And Chloe2 did the panacur 5 day followed by equest cure it?
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Post by sageandonion on Dec 28, 2009 8:58:18 GMT
What diagnosis has the vet given you?
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Post by sg on Dec 28, 2009 14:07:12 GMT
Are you feeding him the same as he had at his old home? Filled legs are often diet/ protein related
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Post by Hunter123 on Dec 28, 2009 16:14:01 GMT
Vet came out ( a different one ) and he gave us some gel we had to put on once a day untill all the gell had gone ( crnt think of the top of my head what its called it begins with a C ). This has now all gone and has only made a slight difference.
I am now looking for a hock pressure boot if anybody knows where i can get one from?
Also previous owners was giving him some silly things he didnt even like, They told us they gived him all the supliments they did because it kept his coat nice as he isnt cliped. But they said he sometimes doesnt eat and will only eat it on the floor, after first few days he ate nothing. Firstly we gave him a bucket that fitted on the door he was a bit more interested in eating but not alot, then we took the supliments out and he eats fine now. We had him for atleast 3 weeks before the fluid came up.
We are now looking for a hock pressure boot, we will give this a try if this doesnt work, we are going to try draining and steroids.
Thanks everyone
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Post by drenrowstud on Dec 31, 2009 23:24:56 GMT
my old hunter mare gets terrible filled legs when she first comes in and even though she goes out all day she doesnt move about enough , we found turning her out with the youngsters encourages her to move about and giving her cider vinagar really helps , but hers is a generally filled leg rather than a just a hock .
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Post by sg on Jan 1, 2010 18:56:54 GMT
Pressage boots (http://www.horseridermedics.co.uk/asp_pages/products.asp?id=57) are excellent, but be very careful that it doesn't rub the medial malleolus (knobbly bit on inside of hock) you can even cut a hole in it. Is it just one leg then?
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Post by Hunter123 on Jan 2, 2010 12:49:38 GMT
yes sg just one leg. Thanks i have now ordered one. Hopefully this will work, other wise its last resort to getting it drained and steroids. Then if it comes bk after that unsure what we will do.
Thanks
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Post by eskvalleystud on Jan 3, 2010 23:02:32 GMT
possibly this Horse lymphangitis is defined as inflammation of the lymph vessels. This inflammation normally happens after infection has entered the body through a cut or wound. Lymph vessels get damaged and can no longer drain lymph fluid from the affected area. This also means that the body cannot fight infection as well as it can with a healthy lymph system.
Lymph vessels are part of the lymphatic system just like blood vessels (arteries and veins) are part of the blood system that is pumped by the heart. Instead of blood it is tissue fluid or lymph (water like fluid) that flows in lymph vessels. Lymph is not pumped around the body was is squeezed along by the action of muscles. The lymphatic system drains excessive tissue from all parts of the body. When this fluid is drained away it removes toxins and breakdown products from damaged areas. The fluid is filtered through lymph nodes which also have an important role in fighting infection.
Signs:
Swelling in a limb after a cut or infection. The limb may increase in size by 2-3 times. Yellow fluid may seep from the skin in several places and the horse will be in quite a lot of pain and unable to move properly. Infection in the affected area may cause the body temperature to rise.
Treatment:
Your vet will treat this condition with antibiotics, non steroidal antibiotics and advise you to give the horse gentle exercise. If the condition is very bad he may also inject diuretics to help the body rid itself of excess fluids.
Once a horse has had the condition lymphangitis is quite likely to recur.
Free veterinary advice helpline: 01243 773363 taken from global herbs website, I know of a horse with very similar symptoms as yours, the above seems to match your horse's symptoms, btw the cut or infection can be microscopic and still this can happen
hope this may be of some help
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Post by Hunter123 on Jan 5, 2010 13:24:18 GMT
Thanks thats great, will see how these boots work and then may try that.
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Post by paddywak on Jan 22, 2010 15:17:39 GMT
Bloming heck i wouldnt do that more likley cause colic !!! We on a worming programme and never use a 5 day anyway and only worm routinely and when pooh counts dictate, i wouldnt do the above without the advice of a vet, and never heard or worms causing leg swelling ! Sadly I bought a pony and after a colic incidence he was fouind to have encysted red worms. So upon the advice of the vet school, this was the treatment. Then 3 weeks later it had to be repeated. Panacur 5 day is gentle, but there can be resistence to it which is why you need the equest follow up, starting with equest can be too dramatic and bring on colic on a horse with a high worm burden. His system has had to be replenished with probiotics, red cell etc and high protein. The swelling is due to low protein, which again can be caused by worms draining the system of vitamins etc. I have also always been taught to do this, in simple terms panacur kills any worms it meets on it passage through the system and removing these will lead to incested worms hatching and in effect stagger the removal of the worm burden. Equest is a systemic wormer which enters the blood stream and filters back into the gut killing any remaining after the panacur..... It would def be much more likely to end up with colic worming a possibly wormy horse with a single dose systemic wormer causing mass death possible impaction and death!
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Post by paddywak on Jan 22, 2010 15:24:51 GMT
re filling, my event horse who is currently turned aways legs fill when he first comes in but have never had any problems and they go down with work and have never caused a problem i also find if ui have him on high protein food he gets puffy legs, the fact it goes down with work never bothers me . Vetting wise i have given up having anything vetted really i know people who have got total crocks through 5 stage vet and others who have had totally sound animals who have failed. i have got to the point now that i hope i can see / feel if a horse is sound and hence a vetting would only bring up silly little things that tbh i prob dont want to know and just give insurance exclusions!
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