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Post by Jenna on Apr 22, 2010 20:30:16 GMT
WHY WHY WHY do people do it, do they get a kick out of it? IV had so many of them over the past couple of weeks i really could do without it.
Im so stressed out, i wish people wouldnt do it to me, i am honestly thinking of selling up (but then i suppose i have to go through MORE time wasters)
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 23, 2010 7:50:11 GMT
Are you talking pony buyers (or supposed buyers)? Are you a breeder?
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Post by minnies on Apr 23, 2010 9:34:32 GMT
well ive had the best one ths week !! in all my years when you think you have heard it all !! selling a youngster home bred so no ridden experience of anything just sold on breeding / temp/conformation etc and the fact he is homozygous by two now deceased relatives !! MR RICHARD WALKER OF CORNWALL you take the biscuit in the space of LESS than 24 hours he has agreed to purchase the horse with the words . definete / absoluty/ quenuine / ref available / immediate payment / transport arrange rang at 9 am, 4 conveasatons so some 2 1/2 chatting then rang at approx 9 am this morning to confirm the deal and give a date for colletion 40 minuits later !!! all off because he hads had a row with his brother !!!!!!!!! about how many mares they are covering ! what ? well ive heard it all now what a plo----!! so arsey now its a difficult enough decision to make selling a home bred 3 year old with out all the dreamers , why would any one want to make themselves look so foolish as well as upsetting a third party ? the day can only get better !! name and shame them them at least others can be forwarned
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Post by Jenna on Apr 23, 2010 9:53:08 GMT
Are you talking pony buyers (or supposed buyers)? Are you a breeder? no im trying to sell one and loan one |
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Post by Jenna on Apr 23, 2010 9:54:42 GMT
well ive had the best one ths week !! in all my years when you think you have heard it all !! selling a youngster home bred so no ridden experience of anything just sold on breeding / temp/conformation etc and the fact he is homozygous by two now deceased relatives !! MR RICHARD WALKER OF CORNWALL you take the biscuit in the space of LESS than 24 hours he has agreed to purchase the horse with the words . definete / absoluty/ quenuine / ref available / immediate payment / transport arrange rang at 9 am, 4 conveasatons so some 2 1/2 chatting then rang at approx 9 am this morning to confirm the deal and give a date for colletion 40 minuits later !!! all off because he hads had a row with his brother !!!!!!!!! about how many mares they are covering ! what ? well ive heard it all now what a plo----!! so arsey now its a difficult enough decision to make selling a home bred 3 year old with out all the dreamers , why would any one want to make themselves look so foolish as well as upsetting a third party ? the day can only get better !! name and shame them them at least others can be forwarned isnt it annoying  |
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Post by hursty100 on Apr 23, 2010 15:45:53 GMT
sounds like a bad one minnies! I had a woman from Ireland wanting two of my section A's- mare and foal for £1250. Then she said that i had to transport them myself to ireland and drop them off included in the price. Deal definatly went out the window!!
But I cant understand why people ring up and book a time to come and never turn up! does your head in!!!
have a kama minnies & Jenna
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 23, 2010 20:39:30 GMT
Jenna make a list of questions to ask the potentials to weed out the timewasters. Use the unfortunate experiences you have had to guide you for the future. What could you have asked/checked out beforehand to avoid what had happened?
I always think you should ask at the end of their interview (because you should be interviewing on the phone). Well that all sounds lovely Mrs Potential Buyer, I think it may be worthwhile meeting. May I ask, if you should like my pony and I think you are the right home, would there be any reason why you could not proceed with the purchase? There is nothing worse than someone saying they love your pony, but need to sell their own or find a livery yard etc. etc.
I think you can be polite but quite firm with your questioning.
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Post by Jenna on Apr 23, 2010 21:03:32 GMT
sounds like a bad one minnies! I had a woman from Ireland wanting two of my section A's- mare and foal for £1250. Then she said that i had to transport them myself to ireland and drop them off included in the price. Deal definatly went out the window!! But I cant understand why people ring up and book a time to come and never turn up! does your head in!!! have a kama minnies & Jenna thank you  |
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Post by Jenna on Apr 23, 2010 21:04:47 GMT
Jenna make a list of questions to ask the potentials to weed out the timewasters. Use the unfortunate experiences you have had to guide you for the future. What could you have asked/checked out beforehand to avoid what had happened? I always think you should ask at the end of their interview (because you should be interviewing on the phone). Well that all sounds lovely Mrs Potential Buyer, I think it may be worthwhile meeting. May I ask, if you should like my pony and I think you are the right home, would there be any reason why you could not proceed with the purchase? There is nothing worse than someone saying they love your pony, but need to sell their own or find a livery yard etc. etc. I think you can be polite but quite firm with your questioning. i think thats a good idea s&o, i need to learn to weed out the timewasters |
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 24, 2010 8:40:57 GMT
Yes weeding out!
When I was looking for my last pony, I had my questions and I would always say at the end of the conversation "is there anything you want to ask me?". Most said no, whilst others struggled to find a question they thought they should ask. An awful lot would say "just come and have a look" which was sayinng "Come waste my time and yours". As I wasn't keen to go anywhere just to have a ride, I wanted, loads of information, pictures etc. Basically I wanted to know everything so that I went with deposit in back pocket desperate to buy because it met all my criteria.
This is a two way process, you know what home/rider your pony would suit and you need to write all your information and questions down, just as if you were arranging a marriage for your daughter. I would be delighted if a seller did this, it would make me keen to buy knowing the seller was making sure the home is the right one.
If you are really keen to sell, or have to sell, then you probably just want to get people through the door, so this process will not achieve that. However, under those circumstances, you must accept you will get some people just looking.
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Post by ladybird on Apr 24, 2010 14:25:26 GMT
I would like to make a public apology on here for a member Merrythorpe who has a fabulous pony for sale. I have, obviously very unwisely, been trying to help an aquaintance find a pony for loan ( sorry should have read loan not sale) I have gone to a lot of trouble, Merrythorpe has gone to a lot of trouble sending photographs etc, turning away other people, re-arranging her week-end, and lo and behold receives a text just before they were due to go saying they had 'changed their mind' I am absolutely furious, embarassed and willnot be doing this again. I would never wittingly be a time waster, apart from anything else, its just d**n rude.
I am really very very sorry.
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Post by Jenna on Apr 24, 2010 16:19:49 GMT
Its not your fault ladybird. But hats off to for apologising, wish there were more like you! ditto, karma for ladybird, after all the timewasters i think i have found the perfect home for my stallion, i am so pleased, couldnt of asked for a better home were he will be used to his full potential! Watch this space  |
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Post by ladybird on Apr 24, 2010 16:39:56 GMT
thank you both very much.
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Post by brindlerainbow on Apr 24, 2010 18:01:24 GMT
ladybird as we both know that woman is a moron  |
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 24, 2010 20:20:22 GMT
And karma for brindle for being up front and straight to the point. Can't see brindle ever wasting anyone's time!
Ladybird I think you have been let down just as much as the seller.
All sounds good Jenna, fingers crossed.
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Post by kayjayem on Apr 24, 2010 21:20:22 GMT
sounds like a bad one minnies! I had a woman from Ireland wanting two of my section A's- mare and foal for £1250. Then she said that i had to transport them myself to ireland and drop them off included in the price. Deal definatly went out the window!! But I cant understand why people ring up and book a time to come and never turn up! does your head in!!! have a kama minnies & Jenna I wonder if it's the same "buyer" I had? From Ireland asked price in first email and then wanted more info pics etc. 23 emails later after sending details of 3 ponies including prices many photos, measured them all(twice) was then told couldn't afford the 3yr old that had been placed at every county show she'd been to. I pointed out that the unshown 2yr olds were(much) cheaper but was then told that it was an extra year to wait and I should be grateful to have a genuine buyer!!! To me is a genuine buyer is one who has the money, not a photo collector. Not as if I sprung the price as an afterthought - if can't afford it say so, don't ask for hundreds more pics  |
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Post by hursty100 on Apr 26, 2010 19:30:05 GMT
Hiya kayjayem, it was a woman i spoke to and she rung me directly. I sent pictures and emails, then she said she didnt have enough money to buy them both and wanted one without the other- and still she wanted me to take them over which would have cost twise as much for what i was asking for one!! What a complete waste of time. have a Kama Kayjayem! I think we have the same person? : )
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Post by mcw on May 4, 2010 16:16:35 GMT
I hate time wasters!!!!!!!! Have them shot!!!!!!!!
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Post by saza911 on May 5, 2010 12:04:22 GMT
I had the best one the other day, a friend was selling a yearling filly girl had emailed her and then called and arrange to come 10am saturday morning, 10:30am i called as it can be hard to find our yard. She said sorry we are on our way see you in 20mins, she then just never turned up! Now why not text or tell me on the phone she had changed her mind! So bloody annoying!
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Post by Jenna on May 6, 2010 14:43:29 GMT
well my stallion went to his new home, without any complications, why cant they all be that easy ?
Decided to sell my other one rather than loan so wonder how many time wasters ill get over him!
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Post by heathers on May 6, 2010 15:55:21 GMT
ladybird,fair play to you for apologizing but you done nothing wrong.
i am giving you a karma for being a decent person
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Post by kt66horses on May 6, 2010 15:59:52 GMT
I also have had my fair share of them over the last couple of months. I have a yearling filly and a colt foal for sale both very reasonably priced and from prizewinning parents. Both will make lovely show ponies until old enough to do other things. I have had a few genuine people who are, I hope, genuinely interested in the ponies but I also have had people who have asked for loads of pictures, details of breeding, parents show wins etc etc. - they have then gone off of the radar and when I have sent them a message politely asking them to let me know if they are still interested I have had no replies whatsoever. Why don't people just say "sorry but I have changed my mind/can't afford/don't like them etc" instead of wasting your time and then being rude enough to ignore your messages.
I always give my mobile number to people interested so that they can give me a call for a chat but as yet not one person has done this - makes you wonder if it was better before the intervention of the internet!!!!!
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Post by bowditchblobs on May 8, 2010 22:47:17 GMT
Trying to loan is as bad, you put not novice ride competition pony, and what do i get novices!!! One kid was plain pinged out the saddle over a tiny cross pole!!! Are there no kids that can ride out there???
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Post by owl on May 9, 2010 10:19:20 GMT
sounds like a bad one minnies! I had a woman from Ireland wanting two of my section A's- mare and foal for £1250. Then she said that i had to transport them myself to ireland and drop them off included in the price. Deal definatly went out the window!! But I cant understand why people ring up and book a time to come and never turn up! does your head in!!! have a kama minnies & Jenna I have had some in my time- its part of it- none are ever sold till they have gone and been paid for! I get some really good ones- one came for miles over the sea- with vet in tow - to vet- then said pony was an inch too small- she had known all along how big she was! others saying they can't drive the distance - but are going to show- how can they show if they can't drive all very strange- makes you wonder why you bother breeding good ponies  ?? then you get the genuine ones who pay for them take them and make a really good job of them- and come back for another in years to come- so I suppose swings and roundabouts really. |
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Post by hotcob on May 22, 2010 1:13:00 GMT
If i had a pound for all of the idiotic questions i have had about my unbroken/ untoched four year old id be a millionare. Questions like has it seen busy traffic im like uhhh love its UNTOUCHED, or is it broken Stated unbroken on ad. Im sure there is only so much you can say about a baby thats not under saddle yet?
But oh no some people want cream on top. So fed up have sent about 30 dvds and god knows how many emails with pics and all have waisted my time.
I wouldnt mind but if they just asked once but you get the ones that say 'oh and can you send this' then the next day 'oh and now can you take photos of that'
I swear id rather keep him and save the stress of trying to find a nice home for him
The you get the ones that arrange to come then ring you back 3 hours later saying they partner thinks hes too young, or there not allowed anymore.
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Post by jasper1 on May 22, 2010 7:32:09 GMT
Think some people are so sad that they just pick an advert and ring up for a 2 hour chat, then they convince themselves that they are genuine buyers so they are completly justified in asking for DVDs, measurements, ice cream and jelly wotever!
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Post by merrythorpe on May 22, 2010 13:14:31 GMT
Oh Ladybird you are so sweet, I was cross with her but you wrote me such a nice email it made me remember there are nice horsey people out there.
Unfortunately she wasnt the only one: I had the wannabees telling me all their ponies life stories, sad death stories and guess what?, once they have bored the pants off you you never hear from them again.(am I am a consellor?)
I ve had the 'I can offer a really nice home but dont have any money can I pay installments?, which I agreed to then never botherd to reply after a ridicilous numer of emails. ( am I the Provident loan company?)
Following numerouse requests for photos of ponies/daschund in every conceivable position, the lorry from every angle, I have had responses which are along the lines of I would love your pony/horse box/daschund puppies I can only afford £? about a third of the advertised price '(am I Tesco's)
The house in Devon goes on the market this week, Im dreading the farmer wannabees with maisonette budgets.
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Post by gladys on May 23, 2010 6:20:20 GMT
The house in Devon goes on the market this week, I'm dreading the farmer wannabees with maisonette budgets. [/quote tThis made me smile we have had some land for sale recently, and we we Had 6 viewings within the first morning of going on the market, the funniest one though , were a couple who turned up at the gate in matching clothes, asked nothing about the planning or build, but proceeded to sniff the stables and around the muck heap....arh yes said the man real countryside, i can see sheep , pigs etc , his wife who had a dreamy look on face nodding. i asked if they used to watch the good life........yearh they both replied we loved that programme.......say know more tom and Barbra LOL |
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Post by griffo on May 23, 2010 15:31:08 GMT
Yes - we've had the same problem - we had 2 gorgeous, well bred mares for sale, as circumstances have forced our downsizing - we were beaten down on the price but shook hands on the deal and never saw the people again!! Having said that we have now sold them to a cracking home. They are loved to death.......but why do people do it!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ladybird on May 25, 2010 7:45:01 GMT
have just seen your comment merrythorpe, thank you so much. I really hope you dont get too many tom and barbaras ( loved it gladys!!) when you go on the market!! Very good luck!!
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?? then you get the genuine ones who pay for them take them and make a really good job of them- and come back for another in years to come- so I suppose swings and roundabouts really.