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Post by arrogorn on Jan 10, 2008 15:15:08 GMT
Is anyone else using bags of feed and isnt seeing where its going?
Trying to get as much weight on them as poss without them going loopy.
They get as much hayledge as they want and two/ three meals a day however i'm not seeing where its going, Also the foal doesnt seem to be growing!
Anyone got any suggestions whats best for weight gain without fizz or sending them into napping mode. Start winter shows next week.
thanks
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Post by lorilingo on Jan 10, 2008 19:11:31 GMT
I have started feeding my old mare Conditioning fibre by spillers, she has two large handfuls added to her feed of mix, chop and sugar beet. I can see a difference after two weeks and she has put some weight on. She goes loopy with some feeds but has stayed the same on this.
I put her on this as she refuses to wear a rug and is 21, and had dropped some weight.
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Post by welshmaid on Jan 10, 2008 19:22:50 GMT
I just changed my new boy a PBA over to Top Spec balancer, Top Spec cool/condition cubes & alpha a oil after it was recommended as he is lacking condition. I did have him on BHF show mix for nearly 6 weeks & couldn't see a change so decided to completely change it around again as I am panicking with the new season looming. It's early days yet but I think other people have had results with this combination. I've also started strapping! He has 2 feeds a day & ad lib hay  |
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Post by arrogorn on Jan 11, 2008 19:29:56 GMT
They been on Top Spec all winter balancer and cubes however the big mare doesnt seem to be gaining anything just panicing at the mo as hoping to get them out and about soon
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Post by welshmaid on Jan 11, 2008 19:53:35 GMT
What about Sumo? Have heard good reports about it but have never used it myself..
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Post by Amber on Jan 17, 2008 7:38:39 GMT
the best feed i have ever used for wieght gain is show improver by saracan combined with sugar beet pulp
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Post by hannahh on Jan 17, 2008 7:49:11 GMT
mine are all poor doers so decided to switch to baileys this winter, wow what a result all look fantastic, moulting and will be ready to go soon!!! there on baileys 17 which is a calm and condition(my 3yo colt who is a loopy rp is horizontal!!!)alfa a oil outshine and sugar beet. the quantities dont have to be huge so it doesn't break the bank!!
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Post by stinkpig on Jan 17, 2008 7:53:26 GMT
Saracan show Improver for me too, as you know amber i'm getting my filly ready to be backed and have just put her back on it. Good feed and work can't be beaten !
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Post by arrogorn on Jan 17, 2008 11:41:11 GMT
Never heard of Saracan? We cant feed baileys as we are on an organic farming estate so limits what we can feed, The big girl went a bit loopy on top spec balancer so shes back on calm and conditioner, alfa A, and when I can get hold of some barley Shes a bit of a worrier so will be putting her on some anti stress supplements this weekend.
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Post by pipsqueek on Jan 17, 2008 18:44:19 GMT
I Fed my coloured younster on saracen feed from the start and i couldn't beleive the results
of it but i also feed a fast amount of chaff as i beleive that horses are fibre eaters,the picture on the side was taken when he was a yearling,this years foal is also on it and that is growing like a bad weed,
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Post by bottomlesspit on Feb 12, 2008 12:52:16 GMT
i feed all of mine on Copra Meal from Boomerang, (i think now called CoolStance) they look incredible all year round and works out to be very inexpensive
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Post by jo123 on Feb 12, 2008 15:55:22 GMT
All of my youngsters are on Baileys Prep Mix, Buckeye Grow & Win and Chaff the difference in them since i changed is amazing!!
My Lead Rein is on Horse & Pony Nuts, Baileys Outshine and Chaff, he looks amazing!!
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Post by thecremellosociety on Feb 12, 2008 19:14:36 GMT
Dodson & Horrell Safe & Sound with A Vit / Mineral Supplement, A scoop of spillers high fibre nuts extra when worked, carrots and apples.
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Post by snowman on Feb 12, 2008 19:42:35 GMT
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Post by halfpass on Feb 13, 2008 19:23:31 GMT
sorry to say we don't believe in all these mixes and Fancy feeds have fed the same way for the past 30yrs more or less what my father and grandfather fed, plenty of fiber and then shorts added as needed mixed flakes again added as needed limestone flour as we are on clay and salt, boiled linseed three times a week and boiled barley for putting on weight and for the stallions during covering season. I know it sounds rather a lot of faffing about but I know what every horse is having and can adjust it as I need to depending on the work they are doing and whether they are gaining or loosing weight, my grandfather always said that the shine on a coat comes from within and I probably spend less on feed than I would if I would if I was buying all these mixes
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Post by spitchwick on Feb 13, 2008 20:31:16 GMT
Another vote for Buckeye Grow and win here, I've always fed it to my youngsters after weaning(use Baileys stud mix till then) and they've always done extremely well on it.
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Post by boothsdale on Feb 22, 2008 9:32:09 GMT
Have used Frickers for the first time this winter (having moved near to!). Ponies are looking better than ever!
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Post by skint on Feb 22, 2008 10:00:18 GMT
Halfpass, my cousin faffed about and spent a fortune on mixes over the years. This year he went back to the old school type of feeding like yourself. His ponies look in fabulous condition to be honest they have a bit too much condition on them. think I am going to feed like this myself.
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Post by halfpass on Feb 23, 2008 0:42:36 GMT
I have to say skint that the way I feed works for me so why fix it if it ain't broke. A lot of people go from one new fab feed to the next that happens to be in fashion at the time when basically the only thing getting fatter is the feed company's bank balance. If you bear in mind that horses are designed to consume fiber and not all these cereals starches and sugar, so if you base your horses diet on fiber you wont go far wrong. I can remember years ago you could buy barley straw under sown with rye grass which was fed to all the brood mares that lived out all winter and we never had any problems with foot problems and stomach illnesses that we have today and they all had healthy foals. But I bet if you said today that you fed your horses/ponies straw people would step back in horror. We also make sure our horse are never standing in stables longer than 1 hour without hay for the greedy ones we double bag their nets and they go out every day for two hours and again for the greedy ones we put on grass muzzles so they have to work a bit harder to get some grass. Our big cob mare is like a hoover with her hard feed so to slow her down she has a big stone in her feed bowl this makes it harder for her to gulp her feed and she has to work for it. I hope some of these tips that have been passed down to me from my my parents and grand parents are of some help. Good lord have just read this back don't I sound sensible hope this doesn't ruin my street cred  |
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Post by skint on Mar 4, 2008 17:23:24 GMT
Yes Halfpass very schoolmarmish. I am now on your regime, but i did cheat this time and bought linseed chips only because I couldnt get hold of linseed and I am working full time during the day and most nights for the next couple of weeks so wont have much time to boil it up. Will let you know how I go on. The section D sound like your cob mare it is a walking stomach on legs its so hard to keep his weight down I just give him a big bowl of nothing just chop and a bit of sugar beet .
We used to have an old chopping machine years ago I bloody hated that job but the hunting horses were all fed vast amounts of hay and straw chop mainly to fill them up. and a lot of oats as we hunted twice a week. some people would die now looking at what we fed. But they always looked well.
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Post by halfpass on Mar 4, 2008 21:18:41 GMT
thats what I'm looking for is a electric chaff cutter could'nt use the old fashioned hand one know as my back would'nt stand the strain. Bung a big round stone in his feed bucket it takes them ages to eat as they have to keep moving the stone around with their noses
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Post by overatdaknee on Mar 4, 2008 22:22:15 GMT
Reading this has brought back memories- when I was 17 (long, long ago) I did my NPS exam at a stud that also trained pointers and had hunting liveries. I cut chaff for seventy equines on a daily basis with one of those hand operated wheelie chaff cutters starting at 6am and chopping on and off all day as they fed 5 times a day. Also learnt how to make a hay wisp quite efficiently by the end of my year there although the early efforts were laughable  They rarely called a vet unless it was a real emergency and there would be daily poultice/ hosing rounds. All poultices were bran salt and boiling water deposited in the cut off corner of a plastic fertilizer sack and kept on with baler twine and a bandage- worked a treat! I was there the year Charles and Di were married, everyone bar myself and one other had cleared off to the Arab show for a few days and us left behind were determined to watch the wedding.....but.......there was the small problem of the small foal whose mummy had rejected it and who needed bottle feeding every few hours. So- we brought him in to the drawing room (yep, it was that sort of room) amongst all the antiques, persian rugs and parque flooring and bottle fed the little bugger whilst we watched telly...fertilizer sack at the ready for when he lifted his tail  No one ever did find out................................those were the days  |
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Post by halfpass on Mar 4, 2008 23:02:20 GMT
could you imagine feeding 5 times a day on mixes you'd need a second morgage, at the momment we have just got back a stallion which we sold 10yrs ago who is very poor and we have him on 5 feeds aday they are only small but I hate to think what it would cost if I fed him on these build up feeds
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Post by martinetaylor02 on Mar 5, 2008 7:19:17 GMT
My horse wont eat hay/hayledge very well at all.
I have used ready mash extra this year and she loves it! cant get enough... bit like boiled barley without the boiling! She looks really good this year too!
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Post by skint on Mar 5, 2008 9:26:27 GMT
Halfpass I think I may know of an electric chopping machine for sale - do you want me to look into it for you
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Post by hairys on Mar 5, 2008 11:33:27 GMT
After spending a fortune on feed we got so p*ssed off with constantly going backwards and forwards to the cattle market spendin £60-70 each time to feed 3 ponies we decided we weren't doing it anymore.
We now feed plenty of speedy beet, bran and mollichop its cheap cheerful and they all look fliiping great! It now costs under £20 for 3 bags of feed and last us a good 3weeks BARGAIN!
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Post by spot on Mar 5, 2008 14:31:31 GMT
crikey i can remember the hand chaff cutters  , and yes if needs be i still feed my sec A barley straw and hay mixed together! |
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Post by NAGSRUS on Mar 13, 2008 21:15:46 GMT
Hi! I say copra meal all the way, my horses look fab on it.
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Post by halfpass on Mar 13, 2008 22:02:40 GMT
we have used ready bran and found it very good
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Post by stephjw1 on Mar 20, 2008 0:09:04 GMT
Anybody got any tips for one that will not eat bran
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They rarely called a vet unless it was a real emergency and there would be daily poultice/ hosing rounds. All poultices were bran salt and boiling water deposited in the cut off corner of a plastic fertilizer sack and kept on with baler twine and a bandage- worked a treat!
No one ever did find out................................those were the days 
, and yes if needs be i still feed my sec A barley straw and hay mixed together!