what colour foal???

[shamrock]

hi just wondered what colour the foal is likely to be if a piebald mare is covered by a palomino stallion

mares sire is traditional coloured and dam is a bay
stallions sire is palomino and dam is chestnut

thanks

[sarahp]

Well 50:50 chance of it being coloured, base colour could be chestnut/bay/black, plus 50:50 chance of it inheriting a dilute too so solid palomino/buckskin/dilute black or any of those in a coloured version. So masses of possibilities!

[sellyblue]

I have no idea but sounds so exciting! X

[LucyHebditch]

Totally depended on which horse along the lines is strong in thier colour, possibly palamino as the sire and his sire is palamino

[sarahp]

What exactly do you mean by "strong in their colour"? Equine colour genetics is a well understood science these days and I'm afraid a genetic palomino is just that, it won't get any "stronger" because the sire was palomino. It would genetically be exactly the same combination of genes if it hadn't had a palomino parent but the individual genes required had come from differently coloured parents, eg buckskin and chestnut, it makes no difference.

[LucyHebditch]

I mean when the sire/dam is known to throw a lot of foals the same colour as they are. They would be strong in their colour.. if that makes sense

[sarahp]

Sorry, but it doesn't. It's just chance - a palomino is a genetically a chestnut with one copy of the dilution gene, and it's a 50:50 chance whether or not it passes down that gene regardless of the colour of parents.

[LucyHebditch]

Okay, sorry

[sarahp]

Not trying to be difficult, please don't take it the wrong way, just that shamrock deserves correct info' and I'm a boring genetics freak!

[shamrock]

Thanks sarah : so basically could be anything really...lol most ppl think if it was coloured it would be a lemon and white but i dont think thats any more of a possibilty than it being solid palomino , is this correct do you think?

[shamrock]

sorry another question sarah p: i just thort of is, if the stallion does pass on his dilute gene what does that narrow the possibilities down too any idea?

thanks again

[kayjayem]

If the stallion passes on the dilute gene it "narrows" it down to palomino, buckskin, smokey black or any of those tobiano ie 6 choices. Very exciting waiting to see!

[shamrock]

well kayjayem as the stallion im refering to is Midas then maybe you know more about his breeding than me...lol
I do know he as thrown palomino foals but not too sure how many and if it was every time so will ask
Thanks for reply

[kayjayem]

Nov 28, 2010 21:08:41 GMT shamrock said:

well kayjayem as the stallion im refering to is Midas then maybe you know more about his breeding than me...lol
I do know he as thrown palomino foals but not too sure how many and if it was every time so will ask
Thanks for reply

Oh how funny! He can only throw 50/50 pally foals so eventually it would even out it's just a case of wait and see ;D

[shamrock]

found out that midas (stallion) as served chestnut mares and thrown palomino foals so dont suppose this tells me much really.
Taraco what is the agouti gene and its relevance ,sorry if im being dumb

[Guestless]

It's obviously just an option but a palomino tobiano would be lovely A friend had a beautiful chestnut tobiano from her mare (brown tobiano) when covered by a chestnut.....lovely and bit more unusual.

[kayjayem]

Midas is straight chestnut x dilute(palomino) All he can throw is 50/50 either chestnut or dilute chestnut(palomino) he does not carry agouti so it depends on the mare for any other variations.