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Post by sageandonion on Mar 15, 2011 21:32:16 GMT
That's the way it goes. If your pony behaved well at its first show then you should be delighted. Perhaps the big hairy cob was well behaved and correct. You may mistake your flying changes and extensions and your pony might have looked a little out of control.
Learn from it, some big hairy cobs are pretty special.
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Post by melons on Mar 15, 2011 22:46:05 GMT
echo this sageandonion... there are some very beautiful "big hairy cobs" out there! and I personally don't see the need for flying changes in your show unless asked for .. I am glad your pony went well especially in their first ever show but as for coming last well thats just showing for you - does not mean the judge is horrible.. is just personal preference and you need to take each decision with good grace x
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Post by Milliesmum on Mar 15, 2011 22:49:56 GMT
Did you ask the judge for any feedback? At most riding clubs, the judges are more than happy to give you pointers if approached in the right way, i.e. at the end of the class when the ring is empty, ask 'please could you give me any points I could improve upon for next time?', then don't question just listen and take on board, and say 'Thank you very much'. There may be good reasons which you aren't aware of, and everyone has the ability to improve, even the best riders in the world can still learn.
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Post by Kerbeck on Mar 16, 2011 10:43:02 GMT
This is my local riding club, for a start the judge that judges will most probably not have a regular attachment to the club so I don't think there is any need to publicise the club, secondly I have a fell, he may be classed as a 'big heavy cob' (I have heard several people refer to him as this!) he has stood at the top of the line up in both of his (and only) novice mixed ridden classes (not at this show) these were classes with 13 and 15 ponies in of all types, just because he isn't a pretty plaited pony certainly does not mean he doesn't deserve to win his class, I am sure the owner of the winning pony would be hurt by your comments. Unfortunately this is showing for you, one week you can be top even if you feel your pony hasn't performed at its best, the next you might at the bottom even if you felt it went great!
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Post by sarahp on Mar 16, 2011 12:29:41 GMT
Flying changes would not be required in a novice ridden class (you did say your pony's first ever show so I assume a novice class), only a neat change of leg through trot. A little lengthening in trot would be nice but full extension would not be required either at that stage - correctness and obedience is what the judge is looking for.
Perhaps watching a few classes first would help you to see what is required? As others say, nothing wrong with big hairy cobs, whether they be show cobs, traditionals or the bigger natives, or at a RC show, just good stocky all round RC animals!
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Post by surfergirl on Mar 16, 2011 12:42:06 GMT
How strange to be doing flying changes and extended trot at novice level and personally i think 'big hairy cobs' are absolutely gorgeous.
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Post by surfergirl on Mar 16, 2011 12:42:33 GMT
Oh and I haven't got a big hairy cob I have a part bred welshie so am not biased
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Post by ruftytuftyrider on Mar 16, 2011 12:44:42 GMT
I love big hairy cobs too
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Post by bud86 on Mar 16, 2011 14:43:21 GMT
The comment 'Big hairy COB' Made me PMSL!!! This is my hideous 'hairy cob' Been mistaken for being a welsh D by D breeders on several occasions!!!  |
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Post by armada on Mar 16, 2011 18:00:09 GMT
I've never been asked to do any advanced movements in any showing class at any level, and even when asked to do a show of my own choice and add a little something, a flying change would not be included.
I personally cant abide 'tricks' in the ring, and having ridden at PSG level, they have to be very well executed for me to consider them worthwhile.
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Post by GrumpyPony on Mar 16, 2011 19:20:56 GMT
Oh dear, did a COB win a class?
Thats not on! We cant have that!
Honestly. I bet that cob did a lovely show- which is probably why it won.
As the owner of a section a and rider of a connemara, I am not biased either.
Glad your pony was well behaved, first show is always a bit of a gamble, but next time leave out the "tricks"- they are not needed, and if you do come last, ask the judge what you can do to improve.
Hopefully they will be happy to help you out.
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Post by mcw on Mar 16, 2011 21:42:52 GMT
i had been told that judges don't particularly like to see flying changes and walk to canter because they want to see some more trotting  |
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Post by dawnie on Mar 17, 2011 0:11:42 GMT
i think you will find flying changes would be a no no in your class? perhaps back to the drawing board and watch some more classes. could you not get somebody to video you doing your show as sometimes ... just because it feels good doesn't mean to say it looks good.
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Post by finstutt on Mar 17, 2011 7:18:28 GMT
sorry if it sounded afensive but the cob was out the class and would not canter on the right leg
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Post by mandmgirl0164 on Mar 17, 2011 7:47:42 GMT
What was the original post -seems to have disappeared??
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Post by frozzy on Mar 17, 2011 11:43:30 GMT
The OP is just a young person and probably has realised her post sounded very juvenile. I did read it but even from the sound of it I reckoned it was a kiddie sounding off. It has now been removed.
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Post by Milliesmum on Mar 17, 2011 16:33:04 GMT
The OP is just a young person and probably has realised her post sounded very juvenile. I did read it but even from the sound of it I reckoned it was a kiddie sounding off. It has now been removed. I thought that too which was why I tried to give some constructive advice.  |
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Post by melons on Mar 17, 2011 19:53:55 GMT
well ... good for them for having the guts to come back on and apologise xx
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Post by delfachhighwayman on Mar 18, 2011 10:36:58 GMT
well ... good for them for having the guts to come back on and apologise xx True, we all make mistakes! x |
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Post by sageandonion on Mar 18, 2011 11:24:03 GMT
Did she apologise or did she just remove her post?
If she just removed her post having thought better of it fine, but I do think she ought to have asked for the whole thread to be removed.
Riding Clubs survive running at cost by volunteers who give up their precious time organising, a thankless task, for others to enjoy. It isn't very nice for a Club to see their name, in capitals at that, to find a less than positive post without any substance whatsoever.
So, whoever you are at Eldwick Riding Club, well done to you for organising a show for others, including outsiders, to take part.
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Post by Kerbeck on Mar 18, 2011 11:54:31 GMT
That's what I was trying to get at S&O, I attend this RC and have done for 10 years, I am sure the organisers would be hurt by this comment, the lady that runs it has 3 children under 6 and 4 horses to look after, she works all day before a show to get the grounds ready - often with very little in the way of volunteers. The judge that judged this class will have no direct link to Eldwick, I really think the OP should have asked for the thread to be removed and I shall go and practice my flying changes on my fell before I go to Eldwick for the first show of the season next month!
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Post by killqueen on Mar 23, 2011 16:19:28 GMT
 echo this sageandonion... there are some very beautiful "big hairy cobs" out there! and I personally don't see the need for flying changes in your show unless asked for .. I am glad your pony went well especially in their first ever show but as for coming last well thats just showing for you - does not mean the judge is horrible.. is just personal preference and you need to take each decision with good grace x Please remember another day another JUDGE, Alway's go in the ring with a smile and come out of the ring with a smile How about having a change of club if your not happy
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