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Post by npo on Jul 17, 2007 10:10:26 GMT
[glow=red,2,300] SHOWLAND NATIVE SOCIETY OFFICIAL STATEMENT 17/7/07.[/glow]
We have had to cut down the number of our in-hand Dartmoor pony Classes from 4 to 2 in order for members of the dartmoor society to compete! We now have 2 classes and the schedule should now read
58- Dartmoor pony- 4yrs & over -Stallion,Mare or Gelding 59- Dartmoor pony- Colt, filly or gelding - 1,2,3yrs old
If there is anything you would like to know. Please contact me Dominique on (0116) 2100510.
Many thanks.
Dominique Brinkley Secretary Showland Native society.
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Post by confused on Jul 17, 2007 11:12:39 GMT
Sorry I'm a bit confused - why do the classes have to be cut down in order for the Dartie members to compete?
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Post by girly on Jul 17, 2007 11:22:18 GMT
The Dartmoor Society will only allow members to compete at shows with more than 2 Dartmoor classes if the judge is a Dartmoor panal judge.
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Post by fmm on Jul 17, 2007 11:47:24 GMT
The Dartmoor Society will only allow members to compete at shows with more than 2 Dartmoor classes if the judge is a Dartmoor panal judge. Wow - what a strange rule. So if they had run four classes, then not a single Dartmoor would have shown up?
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Post by girly on Jul 17, 2007 11:51:50 GMT
I don't consider it a strange rule. It means that if you are having a lot off breed in hand classes at least they are being judged by someone who has a good undestanding of the breed. Dartmoors could have been enteed if they were owned by non members.
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Post by fmm on Jul 17, 2007 12:43:22 GMT
If that is the case, why doesn't every society do the same?
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Post by ickelford on Jul 17, 2007 13:47:50 GMT
If that is the case, why doesn't every society do the same? I guess its up to each society to make their own decisions I personally think its a good rule. In training judges are expected to know breed standards etc which is fairly generic and only really applies to the adult, fully grown ponies. So in breed classes, when the classes are broken down further, it perhaps takes a more experienced and specifically knowledgable person such as an approved breed panel judge to have an eye for the younger less developed ponies and be able to have a good idea of how they are going to grow up. Afterall it would be unreasonable to suggest a 'generic' (sorry could not think of another word) judge to judge individual breed classes should know what to look for in say, a dartmoor yearling - to them they may all just look the same (no offence meant here). Breed standards do not nit pick through all ages and stages of a breed and it would be difficult for a non breed judge to be able to do this. Of course this problem isn't completely eradicated just by reducing the number of classes in a breed section, but it does make the classes more general. Even if I cannot articulate it very well , I can see their logic. I guess its up to the other breed societies if they wish to follow suit!
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Post by nffan on Jul 17, 2007 15:00:40 GMT
In my opinion if a judge cannot see if exhibits in youngstock classes are true to type and a good example of its breed they should not be judging...it is nothing to do with the age of a pony.
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Post by jj on Jul 17, 2007 19:45:12 GMT
i agree with nffan if a judge cannot judge a youngstock class true to type, how on earth can one judge a adult class,
if you do not know the method how can you know the result.
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