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Post by lifeguard on Jul 26, 2007 16:49:56 GMT
Ok, if you dont think NPS made a wrong decision then dont read on, if you do then perhaps you should know that the opportunity to move the show to Towerlands was discussed but not taken further inspite of the venue being available. IMO judges, stewards,competitors, grooms,sponsors, trade stands and of course horses/ponies would prefer to relocate than to experience 3 days of mud, flooded stables, threats of more rain, etc etc. If you think they made a mistake then just make a simple call, tonight so you just lobby the answerphone and try to get them to rethink the venue, go on, you know it makes sense
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Post by size on Jul 26, 2007 16:54:28 GMT
Is Towerlands big enough to cope? We went to BSPS Area 15 and had to squeeze into a parking space. there was very little room there. Kent would have been a lovely venue and thanks to all the girls and boys who offered to help there. The rings were rolled and stripey the stables still up. An evening performance would have been wonderful in their Main Ring. the showground is far better maintained than Malvern.
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Post by windsor on Jul 26, 2007 17:02:03 GMT
YES I DO AGREE
It would be a lot further for us but that really is not important
Yes towlands is big enough look on goggle earth and you can compare it to 3 counties. more perm stables etc etc.,
It wont be the same but i really don't think we should impact the resources in the area anymore than we have to.
My husband rang the showground and he got the impression it would be fool hardy
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Post by mud free on Jul 26, 2007 17:37:17 GMT
I do agree - I do not want my lorry pulled in and out again with mud up to the axles and the skirt locker bent, I do not want mud through the living - I do want my ponies slipping and sliding
Towerlands would be a hour further BUT I would love to go on the surface!!
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Post by size on Jul 26, 2007 17:44:13 GMT
Out of interest why did the NPS turn Kent down? It is the same distance from Alton.
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Post by nli on Jul 26, 2007 17:48:15 GMT
Why doesnt someone (who is good on computers) put something together so us the competitors can have our say - it feels like some ''big wigs'' are saying - ''they are M and M's'' let them get on with it -
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Post by DM on Jul 26, 2007 17:48:48 GMT
I have made my feeling on this subject fely, so I will not go down that rode again. But here is a little video for all those chosing to go.......... uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s4IqXqmtwXAI hope you are all happy now, but I just dare anyone who goes to complain about it after.
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Post by wash on Jul 26, 2007 17:50:41 GMT
The priority of the NPS council regarding this show SHOULD be the British Riding Pony.
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Post by nli on Jul 26, 2007 17:52:50 GMT
OMG where and when was that???
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Post by DM on Jul 26, 2007 18:06:08 GMT
New Forest yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by armada on Jul 26, 2007 18:13:18 GMT
Thats a scarey prospect, wheels spinning on those huge tractors and what appeared to be not the largest horse-box I've seen stranded behind. Not excited by that prospect at all. I definately think a phone call or email is in order. I would feel far happier if they were to move to somewhere less wet, and devestated. even if I have to travel a bit further.
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Post by nli on Jul 26, 2007 18:13:22 GMT
I think you should email that to the NPS and Lady Vestey - i am sure if she owns a lorry - she wouldnt like that to happen to it - be interesting to see how many NPS peoples ponies compete!!!!
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Post by DM on Jul 26, 2007 18:24:31 GMT
I have emailed the NPS with my concerns. I am sad that what appears to have been made is a decision that totally disregareds all health and safety aspects, the feelings of people such as my friend who lost her foal, local business, 3500 farm animals have drowned to date, the RSPCA have estimated up to 2000 domestic pets, people have died, there is now serious concerns over the spead of infection from the flood water which does contain human waste (have seen it floating) But hey!! you must show your ponies, local people I have spoken to today see it as a total blinkered selfish act. I will not be going,
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Post by windsor on Jul 26, 2007 18:29:27 GMT
The police stopped THE ROYAL on the last day, on Health and safety grounds, (that was without a local disaster). Perhaps they should be informed of the NPS decision
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Post by fed up on Jul 26, 2007 19:04:11 GMT
Ha Ha, You wont do anything but winge on here, you have all logged in anonimously accept 1 (Well done Armada) even then we dont know who you all are.
You are all just trouble makers, why dont you all put your names if you really feel that strongly.
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Just shut up and stay at home.
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Post by DM on Jul 26, 2007 19:08:26 GMT
Oh dear Fed Up you dont seem to have logged in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will not log in or register as I have not go the desiere to do so. and you excuse?
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Post by washed on Jul 26, 2007 19:19:36 GMT
A friend of mine who went to New Forest took her lorry to be cleaned up today and it was so bad they had to lift it to steam & scrape 10" thick mud from the underneath. The mud was full of flints. If that mud had come off the lorry and hit a car it could have been fatal. Please think of other people on the road before being dragged on & off showgrounds.
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Post by Wash on Jul 26, 2007 19:22:24 GMT
Ha Ha, You wont do anything but winge on here, you have all logged in anonimously accept 1 (Well done Armada) even then we dont know who you all are. You are all just trouble makers, why dont you all put your names if you really feel that strongly. or Just shut up and stay at home. You are a selfish, irresponsible, unethical thingy and just the type of person the NPS could do without. Go and help out in Tewkesbury... no you'd be the sort who'd rather win a red ribbon and watch someone drown.
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Post by health and safefy qualified on Jul 26, 2007 20:50:38 GMT
It is too late to ring NPS as have just finished work please can anyone preferably a council member answer following:
Why can it not be relocated to Towerlands or Arena UKwhen they are both available and able to cope?
Due to the exceptional circumstances would everyone be prepared to give £30.00 per lorry at the gate towards relocation costs (even though some people would still moan as whatever happens it is not to their liking)?
This would be a drop in the ocean as apart from looking forward to going everyone would have house sitters, animal care in place by now.
If you had entered Pictons and were not happy to travel to risk Malvern, would you lose your novice status for next year if you didnt compete in the final in these circumstances?
Having friends who were intending to come from North and as far as Scotland they are all quite happy to extend their journey an extra hour and a bit to ensure a safe, enjoyable week.
THOSE POOR PEOPLE IN UPTON AND SURROUNDING AREAS! CANNOT EVEN HAVE A WASH AND WE WILL BE WASHING PONIES WITH THEIR PRECIOUS WATER!
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Post by health and safefy qualified on Jul 26, 2007 21:07:53 GMT
Beg your pardon meant to say a few hours and 'bits' more.
I know NPS are trying their hardest and support them as always but find it very hard to understand if they had financial contribution and offers of help why this would be impossible.
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Post by fed up on Jul 26, 2007 21:18:14 GMT
The reason they cant wash is because the pumping station got flooded, NOT because we are having their water. They have plenty of water but it cannot be pumped to them.
Stop scaremongering, some of what you say almost sounded sensible then you make up stories - you should write for the Sun or Daily Star
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Post by howsat on Jul 26, 2007 21:21:29 GMT
The trouble is most of the council think they are above everyone else and do what they like to suit them rather than think of us and our ponies. Their attitude to the show is a prime example. Not for all but a good few. They look after themselves and blow everyone else. Must be the "I'm a judge who are you?" syndrome
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Post by hmmm on Jul 26, 2007 21:32:03 GMT
Yes I agree that the show should have been postponed, I understand that access will have to be through Ledbury which involves a lot of lanes which no doubt locals won't be happy with having a lot of lorries going through. Also the weather looks like it going to take a turn for the worse again (although the show could still be cancelled I assume if it gets worse before Monday ?). Yes Kent and Towerlands are/were options - but think of people coming up from Devon / Cornwall - I for one wouldn't travel that far - double the mileage and time - I agree it is not so bad for those in the Midlands etc, but from the westcountry it is a MUCH longer distance to travel.
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Post by health and safefy qualified on Jul 26, 2007 21:42:27 GMT
Yesterday at hickstead a horsebox being towed by three tractors turned over with four horses on. They are all ok - how stressful! Rather travel and (fingers crossed) be safer and have fun. Good luck and have a safe and happy time whatever decision is made
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Post by prehaps on Jul 27, 2007 1:22:01 GMT
maybe they are running so they do not have to make any refunds ,and this way competiters can decided if they are going or not , also after 1 or2 days they can then close and claim insurance money, also they would not have to refund the trade stands then . this mybe not the case and only my thoughts.
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Post by perhaps on Jul 27, 2007 5:42:08 GMT
Perhaps they wouldn't move the show because a member of the show committee wants a Cuddy ticket, has a good judge but doesn't want to stable their pony away from home?
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Post by guest always on Jul 27, 2007 6:16:52 GMT
Yes Kent and Towerlands are/were options - but think of people coming up from Devon / Cornwall - I for one wouldn't travel that far - double the mileage and time - I agree it is not so bad for those in the Midlands etc, but from the westcountry it is a MUCH longer distance to travel. Don't you think that maybe for safetys sake people would rather travel further than go to malvern? Wherever it is held it will end up further for some and closer for others but I still think it is a better option.
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Post by getreal on Jul 27, 2007 8:28:13 GMT
I for one think the best thing the NPS could do is keep the show where it is and hold it at a later date, things should be back to some sort of normality in 3-4 weeks,, that way everything can stay the same classes, stables, trade stands, no refunds no problem of people not knowing where they are going,
One question for the NPS though ''If the showground in in perfect condition why are you changing the rings around because of 'ground conditions'? i dont think you are being totally honest with us are you? i can see people arriving to a sea of mud or worse! do you remember one year at glastenbury when the mud was so bad 100's of people were so very ill because of contaminated mud!
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Post by get real on Jul 27, 2007 8:39:07 GMT
I am reading all of this about NPS show with growing incredulism. How can people be so insensitive to the people of the area and want the show to go ahead.As has been said the Health & Safety issues are also concerning, not just on the showground but the surrounding area, as someone pointed out even the mud on the road will be a problem when people leave. Why do some people want to risk their ponies and lorries is beyond me. I am not from the area or been affected by the rain but having seen the news reports my heart goes out to all affected by it
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Post by get real on Jul 27, 2007 8:41:50 GMT
BTW, I posted a Get real and didnt realise person above had also.
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