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Post by rosiemay9 on May 7, 2015 8:46:03 GMT
You will always see it when people get highly placed or win and you will see it a lot all over but you never really see when some people don't do the best or aren't even placed why is this...
is that being a sore loser or not? I don't even think its something to be embarrassed about either if you aren't the judges cup of tea that day then its not meant to be, kick up and get prepped for your next show.
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Post by ponymum on May 7, 2015 9:05:26 GMT
Depends what you mean - I was deffo a grumpy show addict on saturday when my pony got 22 for conf!!! Then sunday she got 32....so clearly overnight I glued a leg back on
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Post by rosiemay9 on May 7, 2015 9:09:21 GMT
I would be annoyed with that marking but judges like different types don't they, but i mean like go into hibernation and not talk about it at all.. We all going to have bad days i see it quite a lot where people then go very quiet after showing but i think your not going to win everytime i know judges are gonna like and are also going to dislike thats showing with the good comes the bad.
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Post by Philippa on May 7, 2015 9:49:16 GMT
Lol I think we can all be accused of being grumpy show addicts at some point!!!
I must say when my section A which hadn't been out of the placing for the whole season can 19th out of 19 I actually found it hilarious as did lots of other people lol.
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Post by ponymum on May 7, 2015 10:01:54 GMT
In this game you cant win every time ! (i repeat this around in my head ALOT!!)
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Post by abigail on May 7, 2015 10:06:40 GMT
That's showing for you , you win some you lose some , I just say onto the next one !!!☺
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Post by rosiemay9 on May 7, 2015 10:10:34 GMT
At least you found it hilarious and laughed about it and be miffed at same time lol and yeah i do the same pony mum some judging you agree with and some you really don't but at least you don't expect to win all the time as much as we would all love it that's the difference going in thinking you'll win it is when you come out very dissapointed, but its when people hide the fact they been to a show just because they weren't in the placings so what, were all in same boat don't hide it laugh it off move onto next show.
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Post by roxy93 on May 7, 2015 10:13:45 GMT
I won with my mare at our first show on the weekend next time i may come first but from other end of the line up as she does have a lot of white so may not be everyones favorite. Go out have fun and hope the weather is nice.
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Post by sallie on May 7, 2015 10:20:11 GMT
Lol I think we can all be accused of being grumpy show addicts at some point!!! I must say when my section A which hadn't been out of the placing for the whole season can 19th out of 19 I actually found it hilarious as did lots of other people lol. which show was that if you dont mind saying, for no malice just curious as i think i know your pony
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Post by Philippa on May 7, 2015 10:22:27 GMT
The pony was my beautiful waxwing milk tray who I've sadly lost but the show was Norther All Welsh a couple of years ago. She was obviously not the judges cup of tea!!! Lol b
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Post by sarah1 on May 7, 2015 10:23:31 GMT
I like that, "first from the other end of the line!" i will keep that one in mind!
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Post by roxy93 on May 7, 2015 10:27:43 GMT
haha Sarah i like to make it sound better than it is lol
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Post by sallie on May 7, 2015 10:28:50 GMT
the lovely waxwing ponies not only beautiful but all have lovely temperaments am sorry for your loss
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Post by maxandpaddy on May 7, 2015 14:08:14 GMT
Maybe its the down side of owning a successful pony, where you almost expect to be in the ribbons and nothing else is seen as fun? Far better to own a youngster or one with some form of ASBO The day my daughter and our boy come out, I swear to gawdddddd if he behaves, doesn't wee at an inappropriate time (new party trick) halts, walks. trots and does some kind of canter in a circl'ish shape (we're working on it) .....even if last I'l be the proudest mum on the planet !
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Post by sundance20 on May 7, 2015 14:09:19 GMT
Im only grumpy if my horse has been exceptionally naughty (Possibly the entire of last season as he decided showing was BORING! and just wanted to gallop!)
I can't for the life of me understand people that don't smile when they've won, I'm usually beaming from ear to ear if I've not come last and if its a big show theres almost happy tears if there is a placing!
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Post by CarolineNelson on May 7, 2015 18:13:18 GMT
Maybe its the down side of owning a successful pony, where you almost expect to be in the ribbons and nothing else is seen as fun? Far better to own a youngster or one with some form of ASBO P-) The day my daughter and our boy come out, I swear to gawdddddd if he behaves, doesn't wee at an inappropriate time (new party trick) halts, walks. trots and does some kind of canter in a circl'ish shape (we're working on it) .....even if last I'l be the proudest mum on the planet ! As a retired Producer, a still coaching Coach (BHS/BSPS Accredited Elite Trainer) and a (rude word!!) JUDGE, I simply love your post!! And your realism. They are animals - and have their own agenda, after all !!
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Post by ilovenatives on May 7, 2015 18:44:38 GMT
Great post Max and Paddy . My daughter has done a few RI qualifiers this year on her ASBO Shetland now she is big enough to stop her being so naughty . I think people thought we were a bit mad when she got third in an RI junior's and we were over the moon . My daughter did an open ridden qualifier recently and although she only got sixth she was chuffed to bits to be only one place and a couple of marks below Sam Roberts on a lovely Dartmoor stallion .
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Post by muggley on May 7, 2015 19:01:34 GMT
I set out to be all serious and out to win at all costs ... And then things go belly up and I just laugh! GrayMo will be GrayMo! Nothing is going to change him!
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Post by pipandwill on May 7, 2015 20:08:04 GMT
Im not grumpy as long as a low placing is justified... What gets me is seeing people winning and not cracking a smile!!
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Post by comanchediva on May 7, 2015 21:30:07 GMT
I'm told there's been a debate about this on fb people only posting the red ones and no mention of a lower placing or not being placed. I'm not on fb but my sister always posts whatever result we have generally with several photos that I have to take making sure I get all 4 feet on, ears pricked etc lol. Horses are a great leveller and we never ever expect to win, in fact I usually expect we'll be last and anything else is a bonus!!. Our home bred coloured had an exceptional yearling year, lost count of the championships he took but didn't have a great 2 year old year which was a bit hard to get our heads round and can make you a bit grumpy
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Post by chloesmum on May 8, 2015 8:10:38 GMT
I think there are 2 sides to this, not necessarily about being 'grumpy loser' but I am not sure that people would post about not being placed but will possibly share their delight at a win. Like maxandpaddy we just love having babies (ponies only unfortunately for me!!!) and I know Chloe gets all her pleasure from seeing their progression and we like to take things slowly. For me last week seeing the transformation of our 4 year old Sec B who arrived a nervous little thing was the highlight of my weekend but he is still a way away from going to a show and will be next years pony, we are used to being patient!! Getting placed with a novice pony is always a delight. Horses are a great leveller and one week most of us will be up and the next down, I will accept I am sometimes 'grumpy' but not with the ponies performance you have to accept they or the rider are not machines and have good days and bad but when there has been 'dubious' judging, and sorry it does happen then yes I might be a bit grumpy. But hopefully I will keep that to myself, and next show is another show.
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Post by rosiemay9 on May 8, 2015 8:43:44 GMT
All good views but like you have all said not machines and we all have good and bad days, and exactly ponies that you worked extremely hard with to be placed in good classes is a great feeling or to even go round and really enjoy and be proud of work you have done, but my op was saying people who don't get placed or don't have the best days go into hibernation and hide the fact they have been to a show just because not placed i see it quite a lot actually, Different judges like different types so not always going to be a winner just enjoy the fact that your out showing and have fun and if you don't expect to win all the time you will enjoy a showing a lot more! Thats what we do go into the class to try our best and if we win or placed highly then its a really good day if not then we know what we need to work on or that judge isn't the one for us.
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Post by mcnaughty on May 8, 2015 9:28:14 GMT
Sorry to say that I do only post pictures on FB of what I would call a 'good win' but I have to say that I don't post all the time anyway. When I say 'good win' I mean the quality of the competition. I would just as likely to post a picture of a 10th at an affiliated show against stiff competition and a huge class as I would a 1st at a local competition. Hope that makes sense. In my book it is not necessarily the colour of the ribbon but more how you have fought to achieve it ....
As for not smiling when you win. Through a friend of a friend I know a mother daughter combination that have done very very well at LR but I have to say that every single picture I have ever seen of that child with numerous red ribbons, championship sashes and trophies that kid never cracks a smile! Not entirely sure whether she is just a very grumpy kid or she really does not want to be there! Real shame.
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Post by maddiesmum on May 8, 2015 10:48:25 GMT
Interesting post! I have definitely been grumpy in the past if I felt it was very unjustified. But the grumpiness would be limited to a moan about it with my mum lol, and if really awful probably wouldn't travel to show under that judge again. We are lucky to have had, past & present, some wonderful ponies who have done very well. But you can't possibly be everyone's cup of tea! Plus riders & ponies have off days too (normally at the worst time haha) but such is life. I think it makes it feel all the more satisfying when the pieces fit & you get great results or hit milestones with a pony or jockey. Social media is an interesting one, and we are probably all guilty of posting our best moments more, that's normal I would think....I have to agree some results/achievements mean more too.
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Post by rosiemay9 on May 8, 2015 10:58:09 GMT
I completely agree with everyone when grumpy for deserving to be higher that i think is true yes we are all that lol, but i think some people might feel embarrassed instead ok maybe not being a sore loser think i said that wrong, and maybe they like feeling like i don't want to say today how ive done like you just did i was 10th in a very strong class, nothing wrong with it some serious competition of ponies and such variety in each classes you just never know what is having it that day. I don't know if people don't like the fact that they haven't won or embarrassed that people think their ponies are no good to not be placed higher and winning was just a fluke. Either way i think its daft i will say well done to anyone as i know how much time and effort people put into their ponies. Everyone on here we all sound so alike we know that its all on the day and if its not the best take with a pinch of salt and move on.
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Post by inkjet on May 9, 2015 0:52:57 GMT
I post a lot on facebook, probably a whole lot more than anyone wants to read but I do like to go back and have a log of what I have done. I'm a huge time hop fan. First to last I don't mind. Normally there is good reason sometimes we aren't the judges cup of tea. I think it helps when you can see your horses and your own faults. Some people blame everything else on their poor placings. sometimes (more in the dressage than the showing) I am unhappy if I have had a good placing if I wasn't happy with our performance.
My dislike is grumpy people who can't be happy for anyone else. If you have had a good result or are happy enough to say that you are pleased with your performance I don't think it's then fair for people to belittle you with comments like the judging was a load of crap or there was nothing/only rubbish in the class. I'm all for constructive criticism but there are ways of saying things. I particularly dislike this when these kind of remarks are made towards people new to competing or children.
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Post by Toaster on May 9, 2015 7:44:42 GMT
Im a showing fan and probably one of the only pure showing spectators (ie totally unconnected to anyone there) I put in as many miles spectating as many do actually showing. As I don't show I have no other distractions so spend my days simply observing
One of my favourite parts of the day is walking through the horse box parking to my car at the end of the day, this is where you see the reaction to he day, children that seem solemn on horseback smiling and giving parents hugs and thank yous, a girl thrilled with a rosette because it's purple and that's their favourite colour, parents shouting at children for not doing well, friends comforting riders and trying to cheer them up, fifth prize rosettes being proudly hung in the cab or being thrown in with the wheelbarrow in the back.
I suppose money invested and pressure turns disappointment in to grumpiness sometimes and I wonder how much the marking system is to blame for that, I often think those who participate in the classes where no marks are used seem more pragmatic about their result than those who are marked. Perhaps society's obsession with marking everyone against each other (school exams from early ages, school and hospital league tables etc) rather than someone evaluating themselves against their own track record as an individual that is partly to blame?
Occasionally you see people that attend each show permenantly grumpy and you wonder why they do it at all though!
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Post by Karen, garrettponies on May 11, 2015 14:32:06 GMT
As for not smiling when you win. Through a friend of a friend I know a mother daughter combination that have done very very well at LR but I have to say that every single picture I have ever seen of that child with numerous red ribbons, championship sashes and trophies that kid never cracks a smile! Not entirely sure whether she is just a very grumpy kid or she really does not want to be there! Real shame. That cracked me up Mcnaughty!! We took our normally well behaved Shetland out yesterday and he was the ASBO pony from hell because I made the mistake of taking our Section A (who he detests at home) and spent the day screaming for her and trampling over anything or anyone that stood in his way. Miraculously he did managed to come home with some prizes. My poor daughter was stood on, bitten and shoved but she still kept smiling (I wanted to turn him into Prittstick). The way I look at it is, ponies aren't machines, judges all have different tastes/ideas on marking, you pay your money you take your chances. I've been bottom of the line in one class then top in another, I've also been pleasantly surprised that a judge who normally didn't like mine, suddenly did. Its the chance you take and we know we all take the best pony home anyway
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Post by ilovenatives on May 11, 2015 15:15:44 GMT
I wanted to turn him into Prittstick that made me laugh out loud Karen. We took our Asbo Shetland out with her friend a while ago and she was a pain in the butt all day . She caused much amusement by bronking round the warm up when my daughter first got on and in the workers she refused at almost every jump and my daughter missed two out as there was no way she was going over them . A bit embarrassed that she got a fourth in the class above ponies who had got round all the jumps ( unaffiliated class ) .
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Post by viking on May 11, 2015 15:21:52 GMT
Prittstick, lol!
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